• Singing? Help.
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Yeah, I have no idea how to go about learning to sing, which is something I'd love to be able to do, and there is no possibility of hiring a tutor. So facepunch, do you have any help to offer? Thanks
I guess just singing would help you out alot, sing along with songs you like and stuff, and search google for basic techniques when singing.
I am also interested in this. [QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;32151703]Just take it one step at a time.[/QUOTE] What does that exactly mean?
So you want to learn how to sing, good, it's a talent that everyone wants but only a few put the actual effort into learning it, since it requires you to really expose yourself as you sing. There are a few things you're going to need when you start singing, but lets start with the most fundamental and important thing that you need to know when you're going to start singing. Knowing how to breathe properly. So you might think that "hey, I already know how to breathe, I'm alive aren't I?", which is only partially true. Ok, take a deep breath. Notice how the chest rises? It's because you are breathing air into the upper parts of the lungs. To sing, you're going to have to fill the lungs completely with air, and you're not doing that when you're only filling the upper parts with air. There is a lot to do when you're actually breathing, so I'm going to just link a few links that provide some good tips on the actual art of breathing. [url=http://www.wikihow.com/Breathe-Correctly-to-Protect-Your-Singing-Voice]wikiHelp is a good site[/url] [url=http://www.sing-like-a-pro.com/breathing.htm]A site dedicated to singing[/url] [url=http://www.ehow.com/how_2211634_breathe-singing.html]ehow, short but gets to the point.[/url] Those are some pretty decent articles on breathing, you're going to need to work on your condition too, a healthy body is really important if you're serious about singing! Next time we'll talk about finding your vocal range so that you can know your limitations with your voice so that you won't ruin it.
You can make a lot of gains through free online material or through book purchases provided you practice a lot, but how fast you develop is really limited without a teacher. I've been teaching myself without a teacher and though I've improved a huge sum, with a teacher I would probably be far better. What it comes down to is practice. I also recommend recording yourself.
[QUOTE=Pepin;32152387]You can make a lot of gains through free online material or through book purchases provided you practice a lot, but how fast you develop is really limited without a teacher. I've been teaching myself without a teacher and though I've improved a huge sum, with a teacher I would probably be far better. What it comes down to is practice. I also recommend recording yourself.[/QUOTE] Yes, let's take it one step at a time though ; We'll come to the actual singing in due time, first the absolute fundamentals have to be learned. =)
i just sing and don't give a fuck
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUTO5f5b3ws[/url] Me and my friend recorded this video, and I have had voice lessons with Jazz for a few years now. We just love singing and wanted to record something, and see what people thought. If you want some tips inbox me, and I'm sure I can help you out, there are a lot of small little things even professionals do that can make a huge difference in your tone quality.
Sing along with some deep songs. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BffumeEaYOI&feature=related[/media] That's what I do. Try moving your head a bit when you sing--that's how you twist your voice a bit.
I know at least for me, projecting vocals loudly improves my range and confidence hugely, but don't strain hard or you'll mess up your vocal cords.
As far as projection, there are a few ideas. One is that you want to look at a distant object and sing past it. Like you can get an idea of how loud to say something in junction with how far something is away, and when you're singing in front of a mic or in general you may not have this in mind, so this is a little mind trick to help with that. The second is correct breathing technique. This is something that makes a big difference, and I know this because when I start slacking in this area my performance suffers quite a lot. Personally, with the last couple of months I've been more experimenting with resonance as opposed to trying to find my voice. Though you could say you find your voice through experimentation, that isn't really my goal.
[url]http://vocaroo.com/?media=vgwRdxHbE6m4jWk1T[/url] Not trying to hijack the thread, but I've been wondering that if with a little practice and a better mic, could I become decent at singing?
A better mic isn't going to affect your singing ability. A little of practicing in any area isn't going to bring you up to a decent level.
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;32167581][url]http://vocaroo.com/?media=vgwRdxHbE6m4jWk1T[/url] Not trying to hijack the thread, but I've been wondering that if with a little practice and a better mic, could I become decent at singing?[/QUOTE] I know I aint an expert but seems like your whispering it and you go flat at times. But yeah, i think with some practice and a bit more confidence you could be a good singer
[url]http://www.singingsuccess.com/[/url] Seriously, this shit actually works.
[QUOTE=Pepin;32167637]A better mic isn't going to affect your singing ability. A little of practicing in any area isn't going to bring you up to a decent level.[/QUOTE] I use a *little* practicing as a more general phrase. I should've said "With enough practice, could I get to a reasonable level?"
Sure. I couldn't hear your voice, nor am I am I vocal instructor, but you can make a lot of improvements in a year's time. Most all people have potential for an average sound, though what genre that sound works for varies.
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;32167581][url]http://vocaroo.com/?media=vgwRdxHbE6m4jWk1T[/url] Not trying to hijack the thread, but I've been wondering that if with a little practice and a better mic, could I become decent at singing?[/QUOTE] What you need to do is to stop worrying about other people hearing your singing and really belt it out, it sounds to me like you're ashamed of singing ; Don't, it can be hard at first but you shouldn't care too much about what other people think. It sounds to me that you're not singing from your stomach either. When you breathe, it should be from your stomach and not from your lungs. Take a really deep breath and fill your stomach, the lungs will be filled too but the most important part is to really fill out the lungs by starting from the stomach. When you breathe with your stomach you'll feel the centre of your torso getting sort of "strained", or well that there is some force applied from within. This is good, this means you've filled all of your lungs with air and not just the upper register (which is the case when you're just breathing normally, which is obviously far from as effective as breathing with your stomach). You have a pretty decent tonal quality if that's what you want to hear, you still need to work on your breathing before you'll start thinking about singing though since you can only come so far with your current breathing. Everyone can learn how to sing, obviously some people will need a lot more practice than others to find their own sweet spot when it comes to singing, but the fact still remains that everybody can sing.
[QUOTE=BlackCrow;32158789]Try moving your head a bit when you sing--that's how you twist your voice a bit.[/QUOTE] No. You should never do this. You need to keep your head in a position where your throat can be open and move it a minimal amount.
Practice Practice Practice that's the key to success.
A few things to consider from a former all-state choir member and current rocker: 1. As simple as this may seem (some people do ignore it), know the basics on music: notes, scales, octaves, and range. Many people I see at karaoke bars don't seem to get this, and they end up singing out of tune, so if you can hit specific notes, you'll be a step above the rest of wannabe singers. 2. Push your voice so you can sustain even the most powerful notes. This was recommended to me by one of my friends who happens to be a karaoke league champion. After learning this, I can do Queensryche's "Silent Lucidity" like a pro. 3. Practice in a way you can enjoy. I practice by singing to the radio in my car, but karaoke is another fun way to do it; especially since you have an audience.
[QUOTE=Spaztique;32202623]A few things to consider from a former all-state choir member and current rocker: 1. As simple as this may seem (some people do ignore it), know the basics on music: notes, scales, octaves, and range. Many people I see at karaoke bars don't seem to get this, and they end up singing out of tune, so if you can hit specific notes, you'll be a step above the rest of wannabe singers. 2. Push your voice so you can sustain even the most powerful notes. This was recommended to me by one of my friends who happens to be a karaoke league champion. After learning this, I can do Queensryche's "Silent Lucidity" like a pro. 3. Practice in a way you can enjoy. I practice by singing to the radio in my car, but karaoke is another fun way to do it; especially since you have an audience.[/QUOTE] I dont think people go to karaoke bars to deliver an awesome performance as much as to get drunk and sing with japanese businesmen
Dont try and wave/push your voice to hard.
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