Michigan Candidate Has An Idea How To End Harassment: Vote For Someone Without A Penis
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[URL]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dana-nessel-campaign-ad_us_5a1f1116e4b0d52b8dc25af9[/URL]
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Sexual harassment is pervasive. Prominent men in media, entertainment and politics have, in recent months, had to answer a rising tide of sexual misconduct allegations. And there’s talk about how to change the culture and implement new procedures to stop such behavior from taking place again.
But Dana Nessel, a Democrat running to be Michigan’s attorney general, has a simpler idea: Elect more women.
Nessel is out with a new online campaign ad making the case that these days, simply being a man is a minus.
“If the last few weeks have taught us anything, it’s that we need more women in positions of power, not less,” she says in the ad. “So when you’re choosing Michigan’s next attorney general, ask yourself this: Who can you trust most not to show you their penis in a professional setting? Is it the candidate who doesn’t have a penis? I’d say so.”
The ad flashes headlines about sex scandals involving male politicians ― and Nessel promises her name will never be there.
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GTA, stop leaking into real life!
You can't sexually assault someone if you don't have a sexual assault stick!
I like how this sounds like they're equating men to sexual predators, like, "oh you have a penis, so you're probably going to rape someone". Nice.
To be fair, the track record of late hasn't been all that flattering to the male sex.
[QUOTE=Eva-1337;52934889]
To be fair, the track record of late hasn't been all that flattering to the male sex.[/QUOTE]
forget the "of-late", the statistics around violent crime in general are not flattering to the male sex
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52934903]forget the "of-late", the statistics around violent crime in general are not flattering to the male sex[/QUOTE]
Testosterone is a hell of a chemical.
I'll probably vote for her, mostly because we've had a republican attorney general for far too long. schuette is scum.
Ahh, yes, the old 'Hey vote for me because of this arbitrary feature that's irrelevant to my politics' argument.
Sorry, but that tactic doesn't work on me. You want my vote? Campaign on actual policies. Show me proof that you'll vote in ways that improve my life and the life of Americans as a whole. I Don't give a shit what's between your legs if you vote properly when it comes down to brass tacks.
[QUOTE=TestECull;52935123]Ahh, yes, the old 'Hey vote for me because of this arbitrary feature that's irrelevant to my politics' argument.
Sorry, but that tactic doesn't work on me. You want my vote? Campaign on actual policies. Show me proof that you'll vote in ways that improve my life and the life of Americans as a whole. I Don't give a shit what's between your legs if you vote properly when it comes down to brass tacks.[/QUOTE]
it's a shame really, because a minority who campaigns strictly on the issues is the single best answer to Republican candidates
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I can [I]somewhat[/I] see what she's talking about but her approach, wording, reasoning and response is fucking stupid.
Alienating half of your political party by implying they're rapists :thinking:
It's Her Turn pt. 2
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52935238]I can [I]somewhat[/I] see what she's talking about but her approach, wording, reasoning and response is fucking stupid.
And then there's this blatant contradiction:
[I]Then proceeds to focus on identity politics.[/I][/QUOTE]
Its not contradictory or excessive focus on identity if the point shes making is explicitly related to an actual major problem related to identity. How could we hope to talk about an issue like masculine-driven sexual assault and harassment without talking about the factors of identity that allow it to happen? Or presenting a long ignored solution (more women in roles of power)? Thats creates a ridiculous impasse.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52934934]Testosterone is a hell of a chemical.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure that's not the problem
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52934934]Testosterone is a hell of a chemical.[/QUOTE]
Uh yeah, let's not try and pull this shit, this implies it is somehow beyond all men's control because they have this chemical inside of them (women have it too, just a lot less), and that is such a moronic cop out.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;52935329]Pretty sure that's not the problem[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Socram;52935399]Uh yeah, let's not try and pull this shit[/QUOTE]
Well, first of all, I was just pulling a little bit of a goof, but to burst your bubble: it's literally a natural hormone with roots in aggression - in any animal species. There's countless studies on this.
[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3693622/[/url]
[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2029601[/url]
Steroids, for instance, are known to cause anger management issues in part [B]because [/B]it creates an imbalance in testosterone levels.
I'm not saying it's the [I]"sole cause and all men are a hopelessly lost cause that will forever be the reason for all evil"[/I] or whatever, but I am saying it likely is a contributing factor to the statistics [I]alongside [/I]psychological issues.
[QUOTE=Socram;52935399]this implies it is somehow beyond all men's control because they have this chemical inside of them (women have it too, just a lot less), and that is such a moronic cop out.[/QUOTE]
Key term being "a lot less".
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;52935238]I can [I]somewhat[/I] see what she's talking about but her approach, wording, reasoning and response is fucking stupid.
And then there's this blatant contradiction:
[I]Then proceeds to focus on identity politics.[/I][/QUOTE]
You know those aren't the same people, right?
[QUOTE=luverofJ!93;52935302]Its not contradictory or excessive focus on identity if the point shes making is explicitly related to an actual major problem related to identity. How could we hope to talk about an issue like masculine-driven sexual assault and harassment without talking about the factors of identity that allow it to happen? Or presenting a long ignored solution (more women in roles of power)? Thats creates a ridiculous impasse.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between accurately noting that men are way more likely to commit this kind of sexual harassment and inaccurately attributing this to men as an identity. There are a lot more men who don't do this sort of thing than men who do.
One perceptive lady spots opportunity to politically capitalize on recent string of sexual assault scandals.
That should have been the title.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52934903]forget the "of-late", the statistics around violent crime in general are not flattering to the male sex[/QUOTE]
Yeah all those stories about the people who do it, and no stories about the people who don't
it's almost like being a normal person is more common but the media makes it look the inverse
huh
USA needs to elect more women because of the fight for reproductive rights. It will help men too because things like Planned Parenthood that would be saved also prevent HIV.
I like the argument done here because it highlights hypocrisy of people who always fearmonger about muslims. This is the logical endpoint for the stupid system of "different person in news doing bad thing ban the entire group!" You are the different person today. The news stories posted over the past little while have been about "you" and now "you" are under "attack"
[sp]you're not really under attack because you're a powerful majority and you can defend yourself and crush the accusations easily and the idea that you'll be affected save for maybe your company will give you extra hr courses is laughable[/sp]
Rather vote for someone with a fucken brain
I can see her point but I don't agree at all. I think she worded it extremely badly.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52935461]Well, first of all, I was just pulling a little bit of a goof, but to burst your bubble: it's literally a natural hormone with roots in aggression - in any animal species. There's countless studies on this.
[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3693622/[/url]
[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2029601[/url]
Steroids, for instance, are known to cause anger management issues in part [B]because [/B]it creates an imbalance in testosterone levels.
I'm not saying it's the [I]"sole cause and all men are a hopelessly lost cause that will forever be the reason for all evil"[/I] or whatever, but I am saying it likely is a contributing factor to the statistics [I]alongside [/I]psychological issues.
Key term being "a lot less".[/QUOTE]
And yet, I've somehow managed to control myself
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;52935954]And yet, I've somehow managed to control myself[/QUOTE]
Please read before you reply.
[QUOTE][B]I'm not saying it's the [I]"sole cause and all men are a hopelessly lost cause that will forever be the reason for all evil"[/I] or whatever, but I am saying it likely is a [U]contributing factor[/U] to the statistics [U][I]alongside [/I]psychological issues.[/U][/B][/quote]
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;52935461]Well, first of all, I was just pulling a little bit of a goof, but to burst your bubble: it's literally a natural hormone with roots in aggression - in any animal species. There's countless studies on this.
I'm not saying it's the [I]"sole cause and all men are a hopelessly lost cause that will forever be the reason for all evil"[/I] or whatever, but I am saying it likely is a contributing factor to the statistics [I]alongside [/I]psychological issues.
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I'm fully aware of the affects of testosterone my dude, you're just looking at the totally wrong end of the problem. Saying having testosterone contributes to sexual harassment is like saying owning a car contributes to drunk driving.
We aren't animals, barring people with extreme hormonal imbalances and mental disorders this just reeks of "boys will boys" and "oh its in their blood" style excuses, and that is a step backwards on this very real problem caused by a small but loud number of men.
[QUOTE=Socram;52936005]I'm fully aware of the affects of testosterone my dude, you're just looking at the totally wrong end of the problem. Saying having testosterone contributes to sexual harassment is like saying owning a car contributes to drunk driving.
We aren't animals, barring people with extreme hormonal imbalances and mental disorders this just reeks of "boys will boys" and "oh its in their blood" style excuses, and that is a step backwards on this very real problem caused by a small but loud number of men.[/QUOTE]
You're confusing statistical population analysis and individual behavior. The presence of testosterone can help explain why men get in more trouble, generally, than women when it comes to crimes of aggression, but it doesn't explain why an individual makes their individual choices.
[QUOTE=Socram;52936005]I'm fully aware of the affects of testosterone my dude, you're just looking at the totally wrong end of the problem. Saying having testosterone contributes to sexual harassment is like saying owning a car contributes to drunk driving.[/QUOTE]
Well, I mean, in fairness if you don't have a car you can't really drunk-drive. :vs: But while I get what you mean, I thought I made it pretty clear that I wasn't saying it was the majority contributing factor, I'm saying it's definetely in there though.
[QUOTE=Socram;52936005]We aren't animals, barring people with extreme hormonal imbalances and mental disorders this just reeks of "boys will boys" and "oh its in their blood" style excuses, and that is a step backwards on this very real problem caused by a small but loud number of men.[/QUOTE]
Oh, we're animals. Just because we can use tools and create buildings and pay taxes doesn't make us less of an animal. :v: We have natural instincts and we have natural tendencies. Fight or flight is a very relevant natural response the human animal still adheres to, for instance. If you wanna get real down and dirty, "love" is a social construct. It's our instinct to procreate put in a neat little heart-decorated frame and put on some soft pillows. These social constructs are what make us different. And that's totally cool, I love it. But we're definetely still animals, though.
And I totally agree with you - I'm also extremely opposed to "boys will be boys"-excuses, in fact I'm pretty sure the reason the statistics are so heavily weighed that men are the majority perpetrators is in part[I]because [/I]of excuses like that, where violent behavior is just kind of "accepted" with men (or at least has been for the past... eternity or so). Bad parenting and mental disorders are definetely some of the biggest issues that lead to these kinds of statistics.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52934870]GTA, stop leaking into real life![/QUOTE]
That certainly explains the headaches.
alternatively, you could elect a woman WITH A PENIS like some other states are doing!
alienating transgender women to own...democrat men, apparently? looking at the policies on her site they all seem pretty good (environmental conservation, marijuana legalization, prosecuting companies that violate labor laws, protecting immigrants, etc.) but man, that ad is terrible
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