Israel and Jordan in diplomatic standoff after embassy deaths - Polidicks

[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40703103[/URL] [QUOTE]Israel and Jordan are involved in a diplomatic standoff after an Israeli guard reportedly shot dead a Jordanian attacker near the embassy in Amman. Jordanian police want to question the guard and have sealed off the area, but Israel says he has diplomatic immunity. A second Jordanian hit by the gunfire died in hospital. Israel says he was inadvertently shot. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Unconfirmed reports in Israeli media say Jordan is not allowing the guard to leave the country and that Israel has confined embassy staff to the compound. Israel's foreign ministry said that under the 1961 Vienna Convention, the security guard has immunity from investigation and detention. [/QUOTE] Additional information here: [URL]https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.803076[/URL]

On one hand, he shot an attacker dead. On the other hand, it's really fucking fishy to be declaring diplomatic immunity in order to get out of being questioned.

Definitely fishy, and yet I can still understand why Israel would do this. Jordan being in peace and communicative with Israel does not make them friends, there's hatred for Israel just like the rest of the Arab countries. I certainly wouldn't want to be detained in any Arab nation no matter how relatively civilized, regardless of whether I'm innocent or not.

this is not good I have a job in Jordan in a few months and we were olanning to travel through Israel

[QUOTE=Killuah;52501967]this is not good I have a job in Jordan in a few months and we were olanning to travel through Israel[/QUOTE] You'll be fine, in a few months no one will care

[QUOTE=Megadave;52501742]On one hand, he shot an attacker dead. On the other hand, it's really fucking fishy to be declaring diplomatic immunity in order to get out of being questioned.[/QUOTE] I am certain any nation would do the same, including Jordan.

[QUOTE=Megadave;52501742]On one hand, he shot an attacker dead. On the other hand, it's really fucking fishy to be declaring diplomatic immunity in order to get out of being questioned.[/QUOTE] It's not fishy at all, thats how these things work. The guard has diplomatic immunity and you certainly don't want him to be taken in for questioning in a less-than-friendly country. Even if he's just questioned, they can't prosecute him because of the diplomatic immunity. It's pointless to bother.

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52502322]Even if he's just questioned, they can't prosecute him because of the diplomatic immunity. It's pointless to bother.[/QUOTE] I don't disagree with the rest of what you're saying for the most part but being questioned is still important. Law enforcement needs to figure out exactly what happened still. Really not sure why diplomatic immunity would even be relevant here. He can't be charged for a crime over this and thus can't be arrested. Questioning is neither of those things.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;52503484]I don't disagree with the rest of what you're saying for the most part but being questioned is still important. Law enforcement needs to figure out exactly what happened still. Really not sure why diplomatic immunity would even be relevant here. He can't be charged for a crime over this and thus can't be arrested. Questioning is neither of those things.[/QUOTE] He could have been questioned inside the Israeli embassy, or by a third party. But the Jordanians demanded he'd be handed over for questioning, which is a big diplomatic no-no. The context here is that Jordan intentionally violated diplomatic protocol by demanding the guard for questioning and barring him from leaving the country in order to put pressure on Israel regarding the Temple Mount issue. For proof, according to recent reports Jordan agreed to lay off the guard in exchange for Israel replacing the Temple Mount metal detectors with a different and less obvious security system.

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;52504128]He could have been questioned inside the Israeli embassy, or by a third party. But the Jordanians demanded he'd be handed over for questioning, which is a big diplomatic no-no. The context here is that Jordan intentionally violated diplomatic protocol by demanding the guard for questioning and barring him from leaving the country in order to put pressure on Israel regarding the Temple Mount issue. For proof, according to recent reports Jordan agreed to lay off the guard in exchange for Israel replacing the Temple Mount metal detectors with a different and less obvious security system.[/QUOTE] That may be. I'm not actually up to date enough on Israeli-Jordanian relations to make a call either way. I was merely talking from the standpoint that wanting to question the guard isn't really violating diplomatic immunity in and of itself is all.