Tony Blair's daughter held at gunpoint in attempted robbery - Polidicks

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/1x-9.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24157161[/url] [quote]Former prime minister Tony Blair's daughter was held up at gunpoint during an attempted robbery in central London. Kathryn Blair, 25, was targeted as she walked down a street in Marylebone with her boyfriend and a group of friends. The Metropolitan Police said an incident involving two male suspects with a gun happened in Ivor Place at 20:30 BST on Monday.[/quote]

wouldn't have these problems if blair was still prime minister, long live blair. Seriously though, I hope she's okay, must be traumatising as hell.

Yeah thats a great idea, target his daughter and hold her at gunpoint. #1 way to get on a dad's shit list.

I doubt anyone in the uk ever expects to be held at gunpoint, maybe knives but not guns.

[QUOTE=DigitalySane;42243592]I doubt anyone in the uk ever expects to be held at gunpoint, maybe knives but not guns.[/QUOTE] I'd take my guess that it's most likely an airsoft handgun, and if not airsoft... Sounds like someone is taking a chip off PA Luty's shoulder, and handguns[and possibly ammo] is becoming readily available to the gang population in the UK.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;42243661]I'd take my guess that it's most likely an airsoft handgun, and if not airsoft... Sounds like someone is taking a chip off PA Luty's shoulder, and handguns[and possibly ammo] is becoming readily available to the gang population in the UK.[/QUOTE] Firearms aren't as ridiculously hard to get your hands on (illegally) in the UK as people seem to think. This is coming from the gun crime capital of the UK though. It's more peoples' willingness to actually acquire them and use them that keeps their use relatively low. A knife can do pretty much the same job as a tool for intimidation, with much less legal risk

Oh I know that. But it'll be interesting to see this guy get arrested, and it turns out he only has a little cap gun or something.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;42243583]Yeah thats a great idea, target his daughter and hold her at gunpoint. #1 way to get on a dad's shit list.[/QUOTE] I doubt very much that he knew this was Blair's daughter. I didn't even know he [I]had[/I] a daughter.

Ah yes the ever so successful gun ban in the UK

[QUOTE=nivek;42243903]Ah yes the ever so successful gun ban in the UK[/QUOTE] How many gun stories, exactly, have you heard about in the UK in the past year? [sp]Yes, it is pretty effective[/sp]

[QUOTE=nivek;42243903]Ah yes the ever so successful gun ban in the UK[/QUOTE] wow already good job Seriously, gun crime is extremely rare and just because the ban is not 100% effective does not mean it should not exist

[QUOTE=nivek;42243903]Ah yes the ever so successful gun ban in the UK[/QUOTE] Works pretty well imo. Gun crime is much lower than knife and every other crime.

[IMG]http://media2.policymic.com/86f04f29bdeacb1a0525818d2b3a0fc1.png[/IMG] Gun Ban != Violence Ban

[QUOTE=nivek;42243935][IMG]http://media2.policymic.com/86f04f29bdeacb1a0525818d2b3a0fc1.png[/IMG] Gun Ban != Violence Ban[/QUOTE] Violence has always been banned. I've always wondered what the relative figures are for murders in the UK and USA.

[QUOTE=nivek;42243935][IMG]http://media2.policymic.com/86f04f29bdeacb1a0525818d2b3a0fc1.png[/IMG] Gun Ban != Violence Ban[/QUOTE] I found this on [url=http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/cfi/101-120/cfi115.html]the web page[/url] that graph is from [quote]The figure below shows a dramatic increase in recorded violent crime in England and Wales between 1998 and the present. Rather than indicating a sharp rise in actual violence, however, this increase is largely the direct result of major changes to the way crime data are recorded in the England and Wales. First in 1998 and then again in 2002, amendments were introduced to include a broader range of offences, to promote greater consistency, and to take a more victim-led approach where alleged offences were recorded as well as evidence-based ones. The changes affected recorded violent crimes more than property or other crimes. Incremental changes over time in recording procedures in the United States, Canada and Australia may also have influenced recorded violent crime trend data in these countries.[/quote]

[QUOTE=nivek;42243903]Ah yes the ever so successful gun ban in the UK[/QUOTE] actually you can get basically anything you could reasonably use for hunting relatively easily, it's just that we don't feel the need to use them for anything other than hunting and we don't obsess over it. there is no universal gun ban

[QUOTE=smurfy;42244069]I found this on [URL="http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current series/cfi/101-120/cfi115.html"]the web page[/URL] that graph is from[/QUOTE] Wouldn't that lead to an instantaneous jump and not a continual climb?

Tony, if you fuck up the country, it will be fucked up.

[QUOTE=sgman91;42244119]Wouldn't that lead to an instantaneous jump and not a continual climb?[/QUOTE] If the changes happened all at once, sure; but they probably spread through the country gradually.

I was gonna say, there is no way in hell that is accurate, because what kind of change could cause such a sharp increase in violent crime?

[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;42243736]Firearms aren't as ridiculously hard to get your hands on (illegally) in the UK as people seem to think. This is coming from the gun crime capital of the UK though. It's more peoples' willingness to actually acquire them and use them that keeps their use relatively low. A knife can do pretty much the same job as a tool for intimidation, with much less legal risk[/QUOTE] notts represent fam you get me

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;42244222]I was gonna say, there is no way in hell that is accurate, because what kind of change could cause such a sharp increase in violent crime?[/QUOTE] Obviously the prohibition of handguns made everyone [I]really[/I] angry.

[QUOTE=nivek;42243935][IMG]http://media2.policymic.com/86f04f29bdeacb1a0525818d2b3a0fc1.png[/IMG] Gun Ban != Violence Ban[/QUOTE] I find it really hard to believe that the US has less violent crimes then even Canada....

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;42244222]I was gonna say, there is no way in hell that is accurate, because what kind of change could cause such a sharp increase in violent crime?[/QUOTE] Financial issues, environmental upbringing, most population resides in population centers, ect. Not so much at that level, but people are bound to do criminal activities if it's an alternative to getting fucked over financially, and yes... The UK changed it's definitions of "violent crime" over the past few years.

[QUOTE=sgman91;42244119]Wouldn't that lead to an instantaneous jump and not a continual climb?[/QUOTE] It'd take time for the police to be properly trained in how to do their jobs.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;42243748]Oh I know that. But it'll be interesting to see this guy get arrested, and it turns out he only has a little cap gun or something.[/QUOTE] That reminds me of when someone robbed a petrol station using a NES zapper :v: [URL]http://www.gamefront.com/man-robs-gas-station-with-nes-zapper/[/URL] [QUOTE=nivek;42243903]Ah yes the ever so successful gun ban in the UK[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=nivek;42243935][IMG]http://media2.policymic.com/86f04f29bdeacb1a0525818d2b3a0fc1.png[/IMG] Gun Ban != Violence Ban[/QUOTE] please don't use this thread as an opportunity to tell everyone about how far you're willing to shove a gun up your ass.

[QUOTE=The golden;42244395]Yeah. That graph just stinks of bullshit.[/QUOTE] The graph even states that the amount of gun crime is relative to the country because some will have different descriptions of what counts as a 'violent crime', like a threat vs actual use of a weapon - this could also mean stuff like accidentally getting shot by someone while hunting counts

[QUOTE=Aphtonites;42244422]please don't use this thread as an opportunity to tell everyone about how far you're willing to shove a gun up your ass.[/QUOTE] I'm stating, that I believe in the ability to own and carry weapons for self defense to prevent being a victim of violent crimes. I believe more countries should implement the ability to CCW for self defense. My gun(s) stay secured inside my belt and have yet to enter my ass. Thanks!

[QUOTE=nivek;42246208]I'm stating, that I believe in the ability to own and carry weapons for self defense to prevent being a victim of violent crimes. I believe more countries should implement the ability to CCW for self defense. My gun(s) stay secured inside my belt and have yet to enter my ass. Thanks![/QUOTE] Shame that the US has a murder rate 4 to 5 times that of the UK ([URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide"]4.8 murders per 100,000 people in the US, compared to 1.0 per 100,000 in the UK)[/URL]... In reality though, the UK and the US are vastly different in terms of culture, particularly that surrounding guns. I don't think a gun ban would be effective in the US, but I do think that the UK's hardline stance on firearms has paid off.

[QUOTE=nivek;42246208]I'm stating, that I believe in the ability to own and carry weapons for self defense to prevent being a victim of violent crimes. I believe more countries should implement the ability to CCW for self defense. My gun(s) stay secured inside my belt and have yet to enter my ass. Thanks![/QUOTE] Awesome! Basically nobody in this country wants that shit! Please keep it in your own country! Thank you!