Ecuador - fake clinics used to torture LGBT to 'cure' them of Homosexuality.
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[quote]Ecuadorian authorities have so far this year closed 27 ‘ex-gay’ clinics which claimed to “cure” homosexuality following allegations of torture and abuse by former ‘patients.’
For a decade, lesbian groups have been calling for government action on the physical and psychological torture inflicted on lesbians to try to “cure” them.
At age 24, Paola Ziritti says she suffered “forcible confinement” in a clinic which her parents were led to believe would “de-homosexualize” their daughter. There, for 18 months, she suffered battering, sexual abuse, deprivation of all kinds, constant insults and being chained. Guards threw urine and ice water on her. She spent nearly three months in chains before her mother realized what she had done and freed her, Ziritti told Têtu magazine.
It took more than six months of genuine psychological treatment for her to begin to recover.
Ziritti is the first lesbian to agree to file a complaint against these “treatments” performed in clinics that hide behind the drug addiction services they supposedly provide.
Tatiana Velasquez, of the lesbian organization Taller de Comunicación Mujer, says there are 207 clinics of this type in Ecuador. 27 have been closed by authorities following Ziritti’s testimony.
Nicolás Jara, Minister in charge of Public Health said:
“It would be very important that [victims] would denounce the cases in order to close down all [illegal clinics].”
Activists are demanding that the Ecuadorian government launch a serious investigation into illegal and degrading practices and the closure of all these centers.
Last month, two more lesbians managed to escape from two clinics and file complaints.
According to the network of local LGBT organizations, clinics have also locked up gay men, transgenders and cross-dressers but on a smaller scale, “probably because they manage to leave the family earlier than girls,” says Velasquez.
Velasquez says that the evidence they have collected shows a pattern: women were raped or threatened with rape, handcuffed, deprived of food and forced to dress like prostitutes.
Ziritti says that the closure of the first clinics by the government is good, but it is not enough. “Why is the one where I suffered still open?” she said, adding that she has been threatened since her testimony went on television in Ecuador.
Velasquez says that because of Ziritti’s courage in publicly speaking out, more abused victims are coming forward. Another former client was 19 years old when he was forcibly taken by his father to a different clinic, where he was beaten, deprived of food and had buckets of cold water thrown on him.
Ziritti says that a group of young gays and lesbians stopped her on the street to thank her; their parents were going to send them to the same clinics, but now understand the danger. They told Ziritti that she had saved them from hell, she says.
Read more: [url]http://www.care2.com/causes/ecuadorian-clinics-torture-lgbt-to-cure-them.html#ixzz1dBK94yAV[/url]
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source: [url]http://www.care2.com/causes/ecuadorian-clinics-torture-lgbt-to-cure-them.html[/url]
I'm not sure if this is legitimate or if this is true, but it seems like it to me. This reminds me disturbingly of WWASP, although here at least the authorities are doing something. Thoughts on this, FP?
Links:
[url]http://www.change.org/petitions/fiscal-general-del-estado-close-fake-clinics-that-torture-lgbt-in-order-to-cure-them[/url]
[url]http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/10/07/Lesbians_Escape_From_Ecuadors_ExGay_Torture_Centers/[/url]
These brave, pure men are saving us all from the Gay Agenda (mandatory suicide of all straight people).
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How the fuck does someone even allow something like this to be made?
What the fuck world?
[B]WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?[/B]
When did it become justified to [i]rape[/i] innocent people? Seriously? Who the hell funds this shit? Do they just walk into the bank and tell the bankers that they need a loan for their LGBT torture prison?
"Oh hey John, I would like to pull out a loan for my new organization."
"Sure Henry, what is your organization about?"
"Oh you know, just raping and torturing LGBT people into submission until they are [i]normal[/i]."
"Ha ha, I know right? They are such [i]demons[/i]!"
WHAT THE FUCK
[editline]9th November 2011[/editline]
Why is everyone so fucking afraid if their daughter or son is LGBT?
Why are they so scared that they feel the need to send them to a [I]clinic to get help[/I]?
[quote]Ziritti says that a group of young gays and lesbians stopped her on the street to thank her; their parents were going to send them to the same clinics, but now understand the danger. They told Ziritti that she had saved them from hell, she says.[/quote]
The start of something great.
Cross Creek ALL OVER AGAIN.
Are there seriously places still with this homophobic mindset? Ugh, this reminds me of that one thread about the camps situated in America (?) that tried to de-homosexualise people through similar methods. How anyone can think this is perfectly fine is a ludicrous thought.
Intolerant people really do make me quite mad. How can you "cure" someones mindset? This is just ludicrous.
[QUOTE=Fartbomb222;33196842]Intolerant people really do make me quite mad. How can you "cure" someones mindset? This is just ludicrous.[/QUOTE]
i don't know about specifically lesbians, but some mindsets are just wrong. Terrorists, racists, gays, ect. In all honesty it's a pretty interesting idea.
[QUOTE=Louie XVI;33197019]i don't know about specifically lesbians, but some mindsets are just wrong. Terrorists, racists, [B]gays[/B], ect. In all honesty it's a pretty interesting idea.[/QUOTE]
What if I think your mindset is wrong?
[QUOTE=Fartbomb222;33196842]Intolerant people really do make me quite mad. How can you "cure" someones mindset? This is just ludicrous.[/QUOTE]
You can brainwash them like the Christ camps do here.
This is all because people are stupid, and need an outlet for stupidity.
Sure they might be educated doctors, but they're stupid I tells ya.
Stupid people are everywhere.
[QUOTE=Louie XVI;33197019]i don't know about specifically lesbians, but some mindsets are just wrong. Terrorists, racists, gays, ect. In all honesty it's a pretty interesting idea.[/QUOTE]
Wrong is a point of view for a start. Who are you to say what's right and wrong? In the grand scheme of things everybody is right. Racists are right, gays are right, christians are right, muslims are right, terrorists are right... they're all just upholding their beliefs. You think Hitler's mother thought he was the most evil man on the planet?
The ones worth listening to however, are the ones that prioritise other human beings before their own personal beliefs. The ones that accept the fact people believe in different things, and that humanity as a whole should live in solidarity. It doesn't matter if somebody is black, gay, muslim, female or whatever. The important thing is looking past individual beliefs and realising every single one of us are pretty much the same.
You're mindset is the only one wrong here.
Idiots all those people are. LGBT's are not some kind of disease that you can cure or anything. Those fools need to be alot less closed minded
I'd like to go to an anti gay church and ask in a loud voice;
"What's wrong with gays besides being denied love by thousands of years old book whose writer is dubious? For all you know, some autistic hobo back then could have decided to write a book about all that he saw wrong."
By autistic, I mean here the different view on world.
[quote]Paola Ziritti says she suffered “forcible confinement” in a clinic which her parents were led to believe would “de-homosexualize” their daughter. There, for 18 months, she suffered battering, sexual abuse, deprivation of all kinds, constant insults and being chained. Guards threw urine and ice water on her. She spent nearly three months in chains[/quote]
Not cool (:<
WTF is wrong with them?
IMO being a raging homophobe is moreof a disease than LGBT is!
I thought we lived in a new age of [lie]love and peace[/lie]!
Wow, thats pretty fucked up. I'm Christian myself and it feels like a lot of Christians are drifting from the whole [I]point[/I] of Christianity. I.E. Not judging anyone, treating all as equals, being nice, etc.
I wonder if any antigay camps exist which use Christ's own values of forgiveness to help people ignore sexuality instead of mindlessly bashing it and making the problem worse. If the education in the camp was more focused on ignoring sexuality in general and instead focusing on the positive Christian aspects of strengthening discipline, bringing together a community, forgiving sins and helping others with things like community service and charity, then I wouldn't see anything wrong in it.
The problem is really not Christianity itself but the people who use it as a forefront for bigotry and hatred.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;33198634]I wonder if any antigay camps exist which use Christ's own values of forgiveness to help people ignore sexuality instead of mindlessly bashing it and making the problem worse. If the education in the camp was more focused on ignoring sexuality in general and instead focusing on the positive Christian aspects of strengthening discipline, bringing together a community, forgiving sins and helping others with things like community service and charity, then I wouldn't see anything wrong in it.
The problem is really not Christianity itself but the people who use it as a forefront for bigotry and hatred.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. You have that dead on.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;33198634]I wonder if any antigay camps exist which use Christ's own values of forgiveness to help people ignore sexuality instead of mindlessly bashing it and making the problem worse. If the education in the camp was more focused on ignoring sexuality in general and instead focusing on the positive Christian aspects of strengthening discipline, bringing together a community, forgiving sins and helping others with things like community service and charity, then I wouldn't see anything wrong in it.
The problem is really not Christianity itself but the people who use it as a forefront for bigotry and hatred.[/QUOTE]
Textbook about anti-gay camp says the following;
Excuse to vent.
Didn't one FP'r say he was going to blow up Cross Creek?
Reading this made me feel extremely embarrassed to be Ecuadorian. None of my family members and relatives are close minded like this and most live over there. It's a disgusting thing to done to anyone, in any country.
[QUOTE=Zenpod;33200561]Didn't one FP'r say he was going to blow up Cross Creek?[/QUOTE]
I did (their website at least) totally trashed all of their server data and a few people from /b/ gave me a system destroying virus that raped their servers. they had NO security at ALL and a simple SQL injection could get you onto their main server filesystem
[QUOTE=krazipanda;33200697]I did (their website at least) totally trashed all of their server data and a few people from /b/ gave me a system destroying virus that raped their servers. they had NO security at ALL and a simple SQL injection could get you onto their main server filesystem[/QUOTE]Now that's what I call ethical hacking.
I hate this world. Really.
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Its quite the horrific place we live in were two men are allowed to kill eachother rather then kiss.
[QUOTE]I thought we lived in a new age of [lie]love and peace[/lie]![/QUOTE]
And freedom :downs:
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;33202758]And freedom :downs:[/QUOTE]
Maybe you didn't read the title or thread, but this takes place in Ecuador, not the U.S. Your happyslaps politics do not come into play here, thank you very much.
Freedom gets thrown around in other places than the US. But of course, that's not saying it does in Ecuador. I've never heard anyone say we lived in a new age of love and peace before, but that's certainly just as bullshit in and outside the US. Just like freedom is.
And clearly when this sort of stuff happens, it just shows that we're not living in an age of love and peace, freedom, civilization or whatever. This isn't any age of anything, it's just a continuous line of bullshit with humans never improving.
I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me anyways? Define happyslaps politics?
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;33206620]Freedom gets thrown around in other places than the US. But of course, that's not saying it does in Ecuador. I've never heard anyone say we lived in a new age of love and peace before, but that's certainly just as bullshit in and outside the US. Just like freedom is.
And clearly when this sort of stuff happens, it just shows that we're not living in an age of love and peace, freedom, civilization or whatever. This isn't any age of anything, it's just a continuous line of bullshit with humans never improving.
I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me anyways? Define happyslaps politics?[/QUOTE]
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Repeat.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;33197055]What if I think your mindset is wrong?[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong with rejecting being physically and mentally repulsed, if not scarred by homosexuality.
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