Now for a rant about music genres. I'm pretty annoyed by people who only listen to one type of music ("I only listen to metal bro.")
Am I the only one who notices how close-minded most people are when it comes to music? Music is like food; there is food that:
a.) tastes good and that you enjoy
b.) you only enjoy in certain moods
c.) is terrible and should not be enjoyed by anyone, but some will eat anyway
d.) tastes good, but you don't really prefer it
Small children don't seem to like many foods because they're afraid to enjoy something new, because they aren't used to it, are satisfied with their current tastes, or it may seem strange and alien to them, or a combination of the preceding reasons. Same goes with all people and all music.
In my case, I love all kinds of music, whether it be ska, rock, metal (death metal perhaps), rap, pop, jazz, classical, techno, bluegrass, etc. For the sake of yet another food analogy: some Italian food is great, some Italian food is awful. Same goes with rap; Run DMC: Good. Lil Wayne: Garbage.
You cheat yourself by enjoying only one type of genre. I wouldn't want to only eat Italian food my whole life, and I would hate to only listen to one type of music for the remainder of my existence.
So I ask of you, try to find at least 3 decent artists of every genre that you can enjoy, because like how there is good Italian food and bad Italian food, there is good rap and bad rap, good ska and bad ska, good country and bad country (modern country is awful, it's way to poppy. Johnny Cash is legit), good metal and bad metal, and so on.
Also, I apologize for all the food analogies, but hey, relating to people really teaches.
I hope these thoughts can help some people broaden their musical tastes, and be a bit more open-minded when it comes to such things.
Yes. But that doesn't make you better than them. For example, if i was closed down to jazz i would be happy :v:
Its all about enjoyment. Music is freedom but when people feel tortured by some types of music you can't say its irrogant. Edit: LOL 'ignorant' i meant!!
I personally agree but still.
You're saying there are 3 good crunkcore artists?
[QUOTE=Akayz;23923519]Yes. But that doesn't make you better than them. For example, if i was closed down to jazz i would be happy :v:
Its all about enjoyment. Music is freedom but when people feel tortured by some types of music you can't say its irrogant.
I personally agree but still.[/QUOTE]
I see what you mean and agree, but I what I meant was people who just generally say,"x genre is awful, end of story." without even giving that genre a chance. Like all the people you get who say,"Rap is fucking terrible," who, when you show them rap that is actually decent, enjoy it.
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[QUOTE=Klownox;23923650]You're saying there are 3 good crunkcore artists?[/QUOTE]
Sadly I have many friends who are in love with that kind of stuff. Personally I hate it. What I meant was to look for the good in a genre, before hearing one bad act and saying the entire genre is terrible.
Noise genre is madness. Merzbow must be out of his mind, or a genius.
Close minded people are close minded with everything. It's a bad human habit. I think in general if someone came across a good song they like then they would like it no matter what genre it is and probably won't give a damn.
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Also i like your idea of 3 artists which i like in each genre which i might spend time thinking about one day.
I just wish from all of my heart that all these people just stop to argue about nu-metal, you cannot go on youtube, metal forums, facepunch, it is just nowhere save for nu-metal (and bands did not call themselves like that because the media did it in early 1996) to have a peaceful conversation about bands, style and everything!
Music, is music and people should see that music is something like food (good OP)
Or religion, religion on itself is pretty interesting, but the people are the cause that the religion is unbearable! Same for music! People run just about everything into the ground whenever they disagree! :smith:
Even when you play something among groove metal, still you sound like nu-metal because groove metal is a subgenre, same for nu-metal.
Can't we just live in peace, because your opinion, mine matters and no opinion is wrong or right!
People tend to think I'm close minded about music because I mainly listen to Thrash Metal and Grunge.
But my list of favorite bands includes The DK, The Beastie Boys, RATM, Electric Light Orchestra, The Carpenters ETC.
Just because someone may seem close minded about it, it doesn't necessarily mean they are. Well, other that those that say "HURF Music that I can't understand and has drums at 300 BPM is the only music that's good". People like that are unbearable.
Then again, I have a few friends that are just indifferent about music altogether and would just as easily not ever listen to music than try to find something they like. People are weird that way.
Most people who listen exclusively listen to one genre are just immature (musically). I appreciate lots of genres. That's due to the fact that I make music myself. When you create music, you start to appreciate everything you hear. You appreciate it more because you're aware of what was done to make the end product (arranging, performing, songwriting, composing, and engineering).
There is no such thing as one style fitting all situations. I don't want to hear death metal when I'm having sex (some do o.o). I don't want to hear underground violent rap when I'm in the club. I don't want to hear jazz or R&B when I'm running on a treadmill.
If people think one genre is superior it doesn't mean they're idiots, they're just temporarily dumb (hopefully). It'll take some time for them to broaden their knowledge and appreciate everything else, as with everything in life.
The genre I consume the most, so far, is hip-hop. That's the "food" I grew up "eating".
And yes, it's true, there are a few - very few - genres that are intolerable.
I'm getting tired of the "people who listen to one genre exclusively are intolerant/ignorant/dumb/immature" argument.
I listen to melodic death metal. Exclusively. At least 80% of my library is easily melodic death metal.
That doesn't mean I don't appreciate other genres, though. So far, the only genre I have heard that I can officially say I don't much care for as a whole is harsh noise. Everything else I respect and can listen to.
But I [b]don't[/b] listen to it. Why? Because melodic death metal, out of all the genres I've listened to (including, and not limited to: Jazz, R&B, rap/hip-hop, country, soft rock, electronica and its slew of genres, grunge, metal and its subgenres and fusions, and pretty anything in between these), has most of the qualities I look for music; it fits my wants regarding music best.
It'd be dumb for me [b]not[/b] to listen to it. It's like having a pizza with all your favorite toppings, say they're mushrooms, pepperoni, onions, and olives, and yet, for no explainable reason whatsoever, only having a pepperoni pizza.
Likewise, yeah, I could have all the individual toppings I love by themselves, too - I could buy a cheese pizza, I can buy some mushrooms, I can buy a bag of olives - and they'd all be fine by themselves, but why do that when I can have [b]all[/b] of them at the same time?
And that's right, I just countered your food analogies with more food analogies. :colbert:
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Also, just to address this:
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Even when you play something among groove metal, still you sound like nu-metal because groove metal is a subgenre, same for nu-metal.[/QUOTE]
Actually, when you play groove metal, you can be mistaken for nu-metal because nu metal is derived mostly from groove metal, just with some other influences added in. So if you play groove metal and add even one or two of those other influences, your sound can be mistaken for nu metal because what you're playing technically [b]is[/b] nu metal - it's what nu metal derived from. :v:
I think evryone should listin to outh kinds of music like i love industrial metal and death metal but i listined to country as a kid.
I also play classical piano so i always have some classical music on my mp3
I have no problem with people liking one genre of music really. I'm very wide-minded when it comes to music but people tend to think all I listen to is old and lame jazz, and judge me on that even though I listen to so much more music. My favourite genre is definitely Blues, and just like 2 years ago it was basically 90% of what I listened to.
[QUOTE=Coffee Shop;23923305]OP[/QUOTE]
Music is all about preference. Not giving a genre a listen is not stupid or close-minded, that's merely your opinion, not fact. You don't have to listen to half of a genre's content to know you don't like most of it. That's common sense.
Call me crazy, but I judge music based on how it sounds.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;23986338]I'm getting tired of the "people who listen to one genre exclusively are intolerant/ignorant/dumb/immature" argument.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to people who say, "[Insert] is real music, everything else is shit."
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;23986858]Call me crazy, but I judge music based on how it sounds.[/QUOTE]
So do I, but I like to categorize it into genres to find more music with the same sound. People seem to think genres are just useless and don't get the point of them, but when you start learning abuot what they listen to it's usually pretty much just one specific genre.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;23986858]Call me crazy, but I judge music based on how it sounds.[/QUOTE]
Wrong, It is all about how cool the album cover is. :mmmsmug:
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Also, just to address this:
Actually, when you play groove metal, you can be mistaken for nu-metal because nu metal is derived mostly from groove metal, just with some other influences added in. So if you play groove metal and add even one or two of those other influences, your sound can be mistaken for nu metal because what you're playing technically [B]is[/B] nu metal - it's what nu metal derived from. :v:[/QUOTE]
Exactly, and so many people are hating on it. "IS NO METUL, FAKE FAKE" and hating till they die! Groove metal is damn awesome (in my opinion), I love the grooving bass and drums that just give the whole thing the damn great groove.
Thanks for replying.
I love the old groove metal(Pantera, Exhorder) but nowadays it sems like it's the same thing being recorded over and over again when it comes to groove.
To go on your food analogy, I eat a lot of British (consider that metal) food because that's what I was brought up on, but occasionally I will try something different. Alot of the time I won't like it, not my taste and lot of the time I will like it, but when I like it it tends to be European (consider that anything in and around rock n' roll) and when it isn't it will be catering to the European tongue.
[QUOTE=Darkslicer;23993474]Exactly, and so many people are hating on it. "IS NO METUL, FAKE FAKE" and hating till they die! Groove metal is damn awesome (in my opinion), I love the grooving bass and drums that just give the whole thing the damn great groove.
Thanks for replying.[/QUOTE]
nu metal and groove metal are different and most if not all nu metal is boring oversimplified groove metal (which is already boring enough for the most part)
[QUOTE=mynames2long;23993517]I love the old groove metal(Pantera, Exhorder) but nowadays it sems like it's the same thing being recorded over and over again when it comes to groove.[/QUOTE]
Except Meshuggah.
[QUOTE=Pal13;23986008]Most people who listen exclusively listen to one genre are just immature (musically). I appreciate lots of genres. That's due to the fact that I make music myself. When you create music, you start to appreciate everything you hear. You appreciate it more because you're aware of what was done to make the end product (arranging, performing, songwriting, composing, and engineering).[/QUOTE]
This is definitely true. Before I started making music I'd listen to only about one or two genres, but now when you look in my iTunes you'll see rock, hip-hop, house, pop, dubstep, drum'n'bass, garage, all kinds of stuff.
[QUOTE=Pal13;23986008]Most people who listen exclusively listen to one genre are just immature (musically). I appreciate lots of genres. That's due to the fact that I make music myself. When you create music, you start to appreciate everything you hear. You appreciate it more because you're aware of what was done to make the end product (arranging, performing, songwriting, composing, and engineering).[/QUOTE]
I completely agree with the second part about how creating music enhances your appreciation for other music. However, I find you to be very elitist and quite an asshole in saying that people who listen to one genre are musically immature. You can have a person who listens to only jazz but is a master of the subject. If that is musical immaturity, then you are a retard. Each person can have their own opinions on music, stop spouting yours like it's fact.
[QUOTE=KanonieR;23996158]I completely agree with the second part about how creating music enhances your appreciation for other music. However, I find you to be very elitist and quite an asshole in saying that people who listen to one genre are musically immature. You can have a person who listens to only jazz but is a master of the subject. If that is musical immaturity, then you are a retard. Each person can have their own opinions on music, stop spouting yours like it's fact.[/QUOTE]
You KNOW I didn't mean it that way. :colbert: I am not elitist. We are not talking about jazz connoisseurs. What I wrote is obviously my opinion, I never said it was a fact.
[QUOTE=Pal13;24001994]You KNOW I didn't mean it that way. :colbert: I am not elitist. I just don't like ignorance.[/QUOTE]
How is that even ignorance? I listen to almost exclusively electronic music, and I sure as hell know about other genres, most of them just don't interest me. I've got smatterings of rock and metal and rap and pop among my collection, but i'm mostly happy with what I have. How can you say that's ignorant?
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;24002029]How is that even ignorance? I listen to almost exclusively electronic music, and I sure as hell know about other genres, most of them just don't interest me. I've got smatterings of rock and metal and rap and pop among my collection, but i'm mostly happy with what I have. How can you say that's ignorant?[/QUOTE]
Stop being insecure. I never said YOU guys were ignorant. Lmfao.
[QUOTE=Pal13;24002079]Stop being insecure. I never said YOU guys were ignorant. Lmfao.[/QUOTE]
Then who is? You seem to be talking about more than the obvious "I listen to 5 artists and that's it" group
I am, and always have been talking about people who insult genres without giving it a chance. I am sure you don't do that, so you have nothing to worry about.
Could have made that point clearer, but I don't, no, so guess i'm good.
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