From the Ego Death wiki: Ego death is an experience that purportedly reveals the illusory aspect of the ego, sometimes undergone by psychonauts, mystics, shamans, monks, psychologists, and others interested in exploring the depths of the mind.
On my most recent shroom trip, I had the first ego death experience of my life. It was amazing. One of my friends decided to take my hat and throw it into the bush on this path we were walking on. I deserved it as I wasn't really handling myself in the best manner and was annoying everyone with my tripping. After sitting down and refusing to move in protest for about 20 minutes, I decided it was time to go find my friends. I retrieved my had and started walking, but then I started running down this path in the middle of the night. That's when it happened.
It felt like I was able to look past the ideals and notions and falsehoods clouding my mind, and I was able to examine my consciousness from the inside out. It was like my mind fell apart into different pieces which I was able to examine and analyse. I was able to examine character traits not only of mine, but of others around me. It was amazing to be able to see things for what they really are instead of having my ego subconsciously convince me otherwise.
Share your stories of ego death, I'd also like to know what other drugs you guys have used that have caused ego death.
oh i love ego death, probably because my mental 'illnes' causes my ego to be big but fragile. the best is probably the first and only time i had a bad trip. dosed 3 grams dried and 30 grams fresh of cubies, took 2 bong hits, 1 without BHO after drinking the tea and 1 with BHO after the come up. now everything was all fine and good but i got greedy/neglectful and took another bong hit with BHO. it was really hot that day and i ate 1 piece of toast before ingesting the tea on an empty stomach. my guess is the tea soaked the bread and the bread + tea mixture caused havoc in my intestines. during the trip it felt like i was dying inside and i couldnt stop. as soon as i realised it was a battle lost i gave up and let all come over me i had to be punished for being so careless about dosing and checking the temperature. ever since then ive been less careless and im actually enjoying the trips more.
the thing ive learned most out of that trip is that the human mind is more fragile than we want ourselves to believe.
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im sorry the trip was just too fucked up to describe detailed
When I first started doing psychedelics, I always heard about Ego Death but had no idea what it was all about.
Then in grade 12 English I did this project relating heart of Darkness to Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche: Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. So just to help everyone out who might be confused, I'll go a little more in-depth on this theory, because it really is quite fascinating.
[b]The Id:[/b]
The Id is the part of ourselves, or "personality structure", that strives to avoid pain by seeking pleasure (psychologically). The Id is what governs us in early stages of life, but as we get older, our Id becomes tame and less active, thus becoming part of our subconscious.
Basically, the Id seeks pleasure however it can get it.
[b]The Ego:[/b]
The Ego works in collaboration with the Id to bring the pleasure the Id seeks, but in realistic ways. It is directly affected by what we see in the outside world, and is very conscious. It separates what is real.
[b]The Super-Ego:[/b]
The Super-Ego controls our sense of right and wrong. Whereas the Id wants pleasure no matter how it comes, the Super-Ego keeps us behaving in a socially-acceptable manner, and determines what we do to get this pleasure. This is what gives us feelings of guilt when we do something wrong, and feelings of gratification when we do something right.
So to sum everything up:
The Id is raw emotion, wanting pleasure
The Ego is the personality we portray to the world, what is real to everyone we meet.
Teh Super-Ego gives us the ability to act in a socially acceptable manner, and counterbalances the Id to give us a good Ego.
So when Ego Death occurs, the Ego is destroyed, allowing us to look into ourselves and "see" and "feel" the raw emotions which are always happening, but subconscious. It can be a very scary thing, or a very educational thing, depending on what you are feeling inside of you.
[QUOTE=Poo Monst3r;24907937]When I first started doing psychedelics, I always heard about Ego Death but had no idea what it was all about.
Then in grade 12 English I did this project relating heart of Darkness to Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche: Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. So just to help everyone out who might be confused, I'll go a little more in-depth on this theory, because it really is quite fascinating.
[b]The Id:[/b]
The Id is the part of ourselves, or "personality structure", that strives to avoid pain by seeking pleasure (psychologically). The Id is what governs us in early stages of life, but as we get older, our Id becomes tame and less active, thus becoming part of our subconscious.
Basically, the Id seeks pleasure however it can get it.
[b]The Ego:[/b]
The Ego works in collaboration with the Id to bring the pleasure the Id seeks, but in realistic ways. It is directly affected by what we see in the outside world, and is very conscious. It separates what is real.
[b]The Super-Ego:[/b]
The Super-Ego controls our sense of right and wrong. Whereas the Id wants pleasure no matter how it comes, the Super-Ego keeps us behaving in a socially-acceptable manner, and determines what we do to get this pleasure. This is what gives us feelings of guilt when we do something wrong, and feelings of gratification when we do something right.
So to sum everything up:
The Id is raw emotion, wanting pleasure
The Ego is the personality we portray to the world, what is real to everyone we meet.
Teh Super-Ego gives us the ability to act in a socially acceptable manner, and counterbalances the Id to give us a good Ego.
So when Ego Death occurs, the Ego is destroyed, allowing us to look into ourselves and "see" and "feel" the raw emotions which are always happening, but subconscious. It can be a very scary thing, or a very educational thing, depending on what you are feeling inside of you.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, that really helped me understand it.
I gotta grab some shrooms!
Wait 'till Stalk shows up.
I haven't seen him around :/
[QUOTE=Poo Monst3r;24907937]When I first started doing psychedelics, I always heard about Ego Death but had no idea what it was all about.
Then in grade 12 English I did this project relating heart of Darkness to Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche: Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. So just to help everyone out who might be confused, I'll go a little more in-depth on this theory, because it really is quite fascinating.
[b]The Id:[/b]
The Id is the part of ourselves, or "personality structure", that strives to avoid pain by seeking pleasure (psychologically). The Id is what governs us in early stages of life, but as we get older, our Id becomes tame and less active, thus becoming part of our subconscious.
Basically, the Id seeks pleasure however it can get it.
[b]The Ego:[/b]
The Ego works in collaboration with the Id to bring the pleasure the Id seeks, but in realistic ways. It is directly affected by what we see in the outside world, and is very conscious. It separates what is real.
[b]The Super-Ego:[/b]
The Super-Ego controls our sense of right and wrong. Whereas the Id wants pleasure no matter how it comes, the Super-Ego keeps us behaving in a socially-acceptable manner, and determines what we do to get this pleasure. This is what gives us feelings of guilt when we do something wrong, and feelings of gratification when we do something right.
So to sum everything up:
The Id is raw emotion, wanting pleasure
The Ego is the personality we portray to the world, what is real to everyone we meet.
Teh Super-Ego gives us the ability to act in a socially acceptable manner, and counterbalances the Id to give us a good Ego.
So when Ego Death occurs, the Ego is destroyed, allowing us to look into ourselves and "see" and "feel" the raw emotions which are always happening, but subconscious. It can be a very scary thing, or a very educational thing, depending on what you are feeling inside of you.[/QUOTE]
Last year a friend and I were talking about this in french class as it related to our study of Lord of the Flies we were doing in english. Then my french teacher told us that all of Freud's theories had been proven useless. We raged.
[QUOTE=Poo Monst3r;24907937]When I first started doing psychedelics, I always heard about Ego Death but had no idea what it was all about.
Then in grade 12 English I did this project relating heart of Darkness to Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche: Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. So just to help everyone out who might be confused, I'll go a little more in-depth on this theory, because it really is quite fascinating.
[b]The Id:[/b]
The Id is the part of ourselves, or "personality structure", that strives to avoid pain by seeking pleasure (psychologically). The Id is what governs us in early stages of life, but as we get older, our Id becomes tame and less active, thus becoming part of our subconscious.
Basically, the Id seeks pleasure however it can get it.
[b]The Ego:[/b]
The Ego works in collaboration with the Id to bring the pleasure the Id seeks, but in realistic ways. It is directly affected by what we see in the outside world, and is very conscious. It separates what is real.
[b]The Super-Ego:[/b]
The Super-Ego controls our sense of right and wrong. Whereas the Id wants pleasure no matter how it comes, the Super-Ego keeps us behaving in a socially-acceptable manner, and determines what we do to get this pleasure. This is what gives us feelings of guilt when we do something wrong, and feelings of gratification when we do something right.
So to sum everything up:
The Id is raw emotion, wanting pleasure
The Ego is the personality we portray to the world, what is real to everyone we meet.
Teh Super-Ego gives us the ability to act in a socially acceptable manner, and counterbalances the Id to give us a good Ego.
So when Ego Death occurs, the Ego is destroyed, allowing us to look into ourselves and "see" and "feel" the raw emotions which are always happening, but subconscious. It can be a very scary thing, or a very educational thing, depending on what you are feeling inside of you.[/QUOTE]
holy shit this is great stuff
[QUOTE=dustbusta;24911145]Last year a friend and I were talking about this in french class as it related to our study of Lord of the Flies we were doing in english. Then my french teacher told us that all of Freud's theories had been proven useless. We raged.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like your french teacher should stick with teaching francais
[QUOTE=dustbusta;24906865]It felt like I was able to look past the ideals and notions and falsehoods clouding my mind, and I was able to examine my consciousness from the inside out. It was like my mind fell apart into different pieces which I was able to examine and analyse. I was able to examine character traits not only of mine, but of others around me. It was amazing to be able to see things for what they really are instead of having my ego subconsciously convince me otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Is that ego death? I've totally had the same experience on weed, you realize how fragile, insecure and, not in a bad way, pathetic you and everyone around you really is, and you see how people subconsciously try to suck up to others and fit in. It's a great and liberating experience because it motivates you to not only be yourself but also accept others for who they are.
Damn, I love weed...
i don't think you can have ego death on weed
i had ego death when i was 3 or something like that, i drank a bottle of cough syrup because it tasted good
420 420 ego death erry day :xd:
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;24913398]i don't think you can have ego death on weed
i had ego death when i was 3 or something like that, i drank a bottle of cough syrup because it tasted good[/QUOTE]
Well, I responded because I had an experience similar to the one described, you may be right.
Also lol. Pimpin' kid.
After some reading on this term, it seems as though it the feeling of being completely connected to the universe and everything else. There is no feeling of separation.
I'd be interesting in having an experience like this because I feel very disconnected. Probably because of the epilepsy, derealization and depersonalization affects me pretty bad.
Fuck I thought this was about someone choking to death on an eggo
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and I know I'm talking out of my ass here, but what about the concept of ego as motivation? I might be late on this, but I think that ego is a cyclic motivation. You perform some feat that garners you praise and boosts your ego, and continue those acts simply to feed your ego
Yeah Dr., that is true, but the Ego also clouds your mind. The ego is completely bad or anything, but being able to see through your ego is very enlightening. It's not like it goes away forever.
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;24913812]Fuck I thought this was about someone choking to death on an eggo
[editline]07:19AM[/editline]
and I know I'm talking out of my ass here, but what about the concept of ego as motivation? I might be late on this, but I think that ego is a cyclic motivation. You perform some feat that garners you praise and boosts your ego, and continue those acts simply to feed your ego[/QUOTE]
Yes, because you Are searching for ways to release certain chemicals, namely dopamine, into your synapses. From the wiki, some scientists did a study on dopamine with rats. They put electrodes into their brains that were designed to activate dopamine (pleasure) and put a lever in their cages that activated the electrodes. So when they taught the rats how to operate the lever, they kept pushing it to the exclusion of food, water, and sleep, and eventually died. So that's just an extreme version of wanting to keep doing something that boosts your ego. Crazy shit :v:
[QUOTE=Pepin;24913660]
I'd be interesting in having an experience like this because I feel very disconnected. Probably because of the epilepsy, derealization and depersonalization affects me pretty bad.[/QUOTE]
I totally understand where you're coming from. I have been a sufferer of depersonalization and derealization.. I suggest quitting smoking pot for about a month, maybe have a mushroom trip while you aren't smoking.. It really fixed my problems with feeling disconnected. Coming down off mushrooms is wonderous.
[QUOTE=Kyle v3;24909403]Wait 'till Stalk shows up.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. He seems to just occasionally pop up, and it's a real nice treat
[QUOTE=Imaledgev2;24925417]Yeah. He seems to just occasionally pop up, and it's a real nice treat[/QUOTE]
qft
Stalk has the most fucked up shit. Fucking blows my god damn mind
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[QUOTE=Lenni;24913419]Well, I responded because I had an experience similar to the one described, you may be right.
Also lol. Pimpin' kid.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it is possible to have the kind of experience he described by smoking weed. It's more of a mind-opening though. Ego death is on a much, much deeper level.
deeper? it felt like my mind was getting ripped out of my skull and warped to a different dimention :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;24927172]deeper? it felt like my mind was getting ripped out of my skull and warped to a different dimention :tinfoil:[/QUOTE]
Oh I totally had that experience on weed. I sat down at the middle of the road (because weed makes you do that) and this car came at me...
Seriously though, is it an unpleasant experience to pretty much everyone or does it depend on the person?
depends on the soul
First time i experienced ego death was a bit scary, because there's nothing else that compares really. All the times after that were much better as i knew what to expect, but these days i actually don't prefer to take enough lsd/shrooms to give me ego death
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[QUOTE=dustbusta;24906865]
It felt like I was able to look past the ideals and notions and falsehoods clouding my mind, and I was able to examine my consciousness from the inside out. It was like my mind fell apart into different pieces which I was able to examine and analyse. I was able to examine character traits not only of mine, but of others around me. It was amazing to be able to see things for what they really are instead of having my ego subconsciously convince me otherwise.
[/QUOTE]
but there is no 'you' when you go through ego death
Yeah I know... but I didn't know how else to describe it.
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[QUOTE=Lenni;24927252]Oh I totally had that experience on weed. I sat down at the middle of the road (because weed makes you do that)[/QUOTE]
Also, what?
[QUOTE=Pepin;24913660]After some reading on this term, it seems as though it the feeling of being completely connected to the universe and everything else. There is no feeling of separation.
I'd be interesting in having an experience like this because I feel very disconnected. Probably because of the epilepsy, derealization and depersonalization affects me pretty bad.[/QUOTE]
Would this be comparable (NOT THE SAME) to what happens to me Pepin? Where I can understand and break down everything everyone is doing without even a thought. Everything is just so easy to understand, and people's real reasonings behind things they do are so clear and deep it makes everything seem shallow at the same time.
nah thats just ego splitting, i know what ur talking about occured to me during a mild dosed shroom trip,
complete ego death is just too difficult to explain, even after 30+ shroom trips
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