Confirmed: British aid worker WAS killed by US grenade - Polidicks

[img]http://www.read-news.info/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/cc62c_Linda-Norgrove-006.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-11900709[/url] [quote=BBC][b]Aid worker Linda Norgrove was killed by a grenade thrown by a US special forces soldier sent to rescue her, a joint US-UK investigation has found.[/b] Ms Norgrove, 36, from Lewis, Scotland, was taken hostage in Afghanistan in September. She died on 8 October. It had been thought she was killed by her captors. Foreign Secretary William Hague said US soldiers had been disciplined for not informing commanders immediately that the grenade was a suspected cause. He revealed the results of the probe in a statement to the House of Commons. An investigation team of 10 staff spent almost three weeks in Afghanistan interviewing all involved in the rescue attempt. They also had access to video footage, reports and post-mortem examination results which showed [b]Ms Norgrove died of "penetrative fragmentation injuries" to her head and chest.[/b][/quote] --------------------- [b]NB:[/b] Fuck off with any "omg americorrn solderrs r fookin stupid gung-ho idiots" comments.

Stupid bitch dresses like the enemy, gets what she deserved. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitposting" - SteveUK))[/highlight] [editline]value[/editline] Looking back at old bans, wow. Christmas spirit.

[I]"That grenade was a spy..."[/I] Is what I said prior to this edit. I apologize if the tf2 reference bothered you i meant no harm by it. I intended for a little humor to help some users get over this horrible happening. This is indeed a horrible thing that happened and I hold the sincerest sympathy for the family of this woman, and the lobber of said grenade.

[QUOTE=farmatyr;26447880]Stupid bitch dresses like the enemy, gets what she deserved.[/QUOTE] Yeah you're totally going to help people wearing a t-shirt and a short in Afghanistan. It's not like Afghanistan is in the desert, if they're dressed like that maybe there's a reason.

Very unfortunate.

It was an accident, just like a lot of things that goes on today.

Well, mistakes do happen. I don't see why he threw the grenade, unless he thought there was a substantial threat that only a frag would deal with.

Accidents happen, should have been more careful. I bet the tosser feels pretty damn bad now. Edit: Just realised, I meant 'tosser' as in the guy the tossed the frag, not 'tosser' as in the insult.

You know what's sad, is that I play video games depicting these kind of situations and even I know that's a bad idea.

There be a shitstorm a brewin...

[QUOTE=Identity;26447924]Well, mistakes do happen. I don't see why he threw the grenade, unless he thought there was a substantial threat that only a frag would deal with.[/QUOTE] Special forces training should teach you to learn to deal with threats by some other means if you're trying to secure hostages alive. I want to know why these men didn't have flashbangs or teargas or anything else of that sort or, if they did, why they didn't use it.

[QUOTE=farmatyr;26447880]Stupid bitch dresses like the enemy, gets what she deserved.[/QUOTE] She dressed like that out of respect for their culture you knob.

Surely if you're clearing out a room that potentially has a hostage in it you don't throw a frag?

[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;26447937]You know what's sad, is that I play video games depicting these kind of situations and even I know that's a bad idea.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and you would act exactly the same in real life, right ? Playing ArmA doesn't make you a perfect soldier, everybody makes errors

[QUOTE=farmatyr;26447880]Stupid bitch dresses like the enemy, gets what she deserved.[/QUOTE] When in Rome. Seriously, if you walk around Kabul dressed in shorts and a t-shirt and your favourite aviators then you're going to be misperceived as a cowboy, a PMC employee or some Western businessman and shot or kidnapped faster than you can say "gee the sun sure is beating down hard on my bare, white skin."

[QUOTE=farmatyr;26447880]Stupid bitch dresses like the enemy, gets what she deserved.[/QUOTE] Because everyone has a coat from "The North Face" in Afganistan.

[QUOTE=farmatyr;26447880]Stupid bitch dresses like the enemy, gets what she deserved.[/QUOTE] Chances are, if she doesn't dress like a typical Muslim woman in that region, she'll probably be raped and burned alive.

[QUOTE=Identity;26447950]She dressed like that out of respect for their culture you knob.[/QUOTE] To bad it could be the reason why she is dead now.

Also she kind of needs to, oh I don't know. Blend in?

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;26447945]Special forces training should teach you to learn to deal with threats by some other means if you're trying to secure hostages alive. I want to know why these men didn't have flashbangs or teargas or anything else of that sort or, if they did, why they didn't use it.[/QUOTE] It comes down to instinct and reflex, rather than what you've been taught in BCT. And if they're in a cave, why flashbang or teargas it? You'd flash or gas yourself. Chances are she would've ended up dead anyway. Hate to put it like that, but knowing what insurgents have done before, it's possible.

Welp, good job US, that was counter productive.

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26447973]To bad it could be the reason why she is dead now.[/QUOTE] You get kidnapped for being a Westerner whatever clothes you're wearing. Dressing at least semi-appropriately helps you stay below the radar far better than dancing around in Timberlands.

Lol americans "it was an accident" If it had been the other way round your tone would have been quite different.

[QUOTE=Miskatonic;26447983]Welp, good job US, that was counter productive.[/QUOTE] As if no other country has botched a rescue. Like the eight Chinese tourists that were killed on that bus a couple months back.

Accidents happen, still a pity though.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;26447970]Chances are, if she doesn't dress like a typical Muslim woman in that region, she'll probably be raped and burned alive.[/QUOTE] Then you're fucked either way. She shouldn't have been there at all.

[QUOTE=Identity;26447978]And if they're in a cave, why flashbang or teargas it?[/QUOTE] 1. They weren't in a cave. 2. You throw flashbangs in ahead of you and hide behind a door. The only effects you feel are the loss or distortion of hearing for a moment. 3. Teargars. Solution = gasmasks. [QUOTE=farmatyr;26448014]Then you're fucked either way. She shouldn't have been there at all.[/QUOTE] Yeah. Fuck trying to help out. Bitch deserved it.

I'm glad that everyone in this thread is totally aware of the circumstances surrounding the situation and is able to make blanket statements about the stupidity of using a frag grenade

This is sad. People arguing about it are even moreso.

[QUOTE=GunFox;26448034]I'm glad that everyone in this thread is totally aware of the circumstances surrounding the situation and is able to make blanket statements about the stupidity of using a frag grenade[/QUOTE] That's my point. Unless everyone here has been to BCT that is...