Galactic supervolcano erupts in black hole - Polidicks

[quote]A space telescope has captured the spectacular moment a "super volcano" exploded from a giant black hole in a galaxy about 50 million light years away from earth. The photograph, taken by NASA's Chandra X-Ray Observatory and the NSF's Very Large Array, showed gas and radio emissions being blasted throughout the Messier 87 (M87) galaxy, Wired reports. Scientists said the black hole was powering the super-volcano and that jets of energetic particles were preventing the formation of hundreds of millions of new stars. [b]New stars would normally form in the galaxy when the super-heated gas cooled.[/b][/quote] Source: [url]http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/7949161/galactic-supervolcano-erupts-in-blackhole[/url] [b]Informative rates.[/b]

Can someone please explain how this is possible, I'm not exactly a physics major.

By the title I was picturing a massive volcano floating in a black hole erupting. Oh how I love you space.

Space is awesome!

Space never fails to interest me.

Sweet!

How do these eruptions even occur. I thought blackholes are just dense enough to suck in everything. Including eruptions.

So did the black hole eject the stuff it's been sucking in for centuries? I thought nothing could escape a black hole?

Hot diggity damn, this is awesome.

I hope its ash cloud goes over space europe

:aaa: awesome

Doesnt that mean that it exploded thousands, maybe millions of years ago since it was far away?

[URL=http://img375.imageshack.us/i/toolate.jpg/][IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img375/5642/toolate.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Am I too late to see it on Google Earth? When cool things in space happen and I am given coords I check it out to see it for myself. :v:

Looks fake to say the least. I would love to see a closer view. Damn tech is that advance yet.

[quote]Galactic supervolcano erupts in black hole [/quote] Quite possibly the most awesome sentence I've read.

Holy damn shit, space is goddamn awesome.

[QUOTE=Asm;24259112]Doesnt that mean that it exploded thousands, maybe millions of years ago since it was far away?[/QUOTE] The photons carrying the information have experienced no time. It's pointless to think what things are like "right now" somewhere far away, since it's simply impossible to know. We cannot get information about them any faster than at the speed of light. What we see right now is the reality to us.

[QUOTE=NotSo1337;24259124] Am I too late to see it on Google Earth? [img_thumb]http://img375.imageshack.us/i/toolate.jpg[/img_thumb] When cool things in space happen and I am given coords I check it out to see it for myself. :v:[/QUOTE] that's the whole galaxy the article talks about a black hole erupting [I]within[/I] the galaxy

So...shit's flying out of it instead of falling into it? :psyduck:

this sounds like it should be contrary to every theory about blackholes ever science is so fucking awesome [editline]03:41AM[/editline] I'd like to know what Stephen Hawking thinks about this

"Galactic supervolcano erupts in black hole." That even sounds awesome to say out loud.

[QUOTE=helpiminabox;24258870]Can someone please explain how this is possible, I'm not exactly a physics major.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;24258969]How do these eruptions even occur. I thought blackholes are just dense enough to suck in everything. Including eruptions.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ladiida;24258979]So did the black hole eject the stuff it's been sucking in for centuries? I thought nothing could escape a black hole?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=salty peanut v2;24259768]So...shit's flying out of it instead of falling into it? [/QUOTE] Black holes aren't all about sucking. For example, when a rotating black hole is formed from a star, it shoots highly energetic jets of particles from it's poles.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;24258969]How do these eruptions even occur. I thought blackholes are just dense enough to suck in everything. Including eruptions.[/QUOTE] So did everyone? This could potentially prove that Space isn't gonna vanish into a massive collection of black holes, because if black holes expel matter in the form of these "super volcanoes" then matter never really disappears and new stars and galaxies will continue to be formed, and as the gas and particles that come out of it are super heated it also might prove that the Universe isn't just gonna cool down eventually and be a cold although not empty collection of space debris. I'm pretty sure this discovery goes against the notion of entropy when applied to the universe, as well as the second law of thermodynamics. I'm not a physics major but my theory is that the black hole can hold only so much mass before not being able to hold itself together, as it sucks matter in the pressure gets extremely high and heats up all that goes inside, eventually not being able to handle all its content it has to expel superheated gas and particles which will form new stars, galaxies, planets, etc.

The funny part is that the stars that this will help to create are mostly created already.

[QUOTE=DeanWinchester;24259857] This could potentially prove that Space isn't gonna vanish into a massive collection of black holes, because if black holes expel matter in the form of these "super volcanoes" then matter never really disappears and new stars and galaxies will continue to be formed, and as the gas and particles that come out of it are super heated it also might prove that the Universe isn't just gonna cool down eventually and be a cold although not empty collection of space debris. I'm pretty sure this discovery goes against the notion of entropy when applied to the universe, as well as the second law of thermodynamics. I'm not a physics major but my theory is that the black hole can hold only so much mass before not being able to hold itself together, as it sucks matter in the pressure gets extremely high and heats up all that goes inside, eventually not being able to handle all its content it has to expel superheated gas and particles which will form new stars, galaxies, planets, etc.[/QUOTE] *sigh* First, let's start with the assumption that the universe doesn't eventually start shrinking back in on itself. Let's just think about the end game without any expanding or contracting of space. All matter is not gonna end up in black holes. Black holes slowly evaporate due to Hawking-radiation (look it up). The idea that black holes only suck in matter, never letting it go..that's what goes against entropy. The entropy of a system must always increase. If all the stuff in the universe would be sucked in black holes, it would have a degree of order in it (stuff in black holes, no stuff anywhere else). Thus, black holes are not the final state, instead they evaporate (Hawking-radiation). The final state of entropy would be all the heat death. All energy in the universe (all mass slowly decaying) dissipated evenly across all space. No reactions of anything ever anywhere. (note: heat death doesn't mean the universe is hot. It's more like "all the heat dies". Rather cold) And lastly, your "theory" is bullshit. A black hole already has the mass of a star in a tiny tiny space. Why would it suddenly decide "oh I can't take any more!" ?

[QUOTE=Block;24259974]And lastly, your "theory" is bullshit. A black hole already has the mass of a star in a tiny tiny space. Why would it suddenly decide "oh I can't take any more!"[/QUOTE] because it watched avatar? :downs:

Nothing is being ejected from inside the black hole. It's the extremely hot and luminous region around the event horizon that's erupting for whatever reason - there must've been some kind of an anomaly to cause the plasma to break orbit, like a close encounter or a collision with another massive object. [editline]02:07PM[/editline] Or I don't know, the "supervolcano" could just as well be a massive star whose gas is being slingshotted into every which direction by the black hole

[QUOTE=ThePuska;24259721]The photons carrying the information have experienced no time. It's pointless to think what things are like "right now" somewhere far away, since it's simply impossible to know. We cannot get information about them any faster than at the speed of light. What we see right now is the reality to us.[/QUOTE] That's dumb, not being able to know doesn't mean it isn't happening.

[img]http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2010/technology/2208_volcano_lg_sp.jpg[/img] Anyone found a bigger picture? :3:

[QUOTE=BmB;24260054]That's dumb, not being able to know doesn't mean it isn't happening.[/QUOTE] But it does mean that. If there's no information, no interaction or anything, it might as well not exist.