Eco-Friendly ETs Could Wipe Out Polluted Planet Earth To Protect Their Civilisations, Warns NASA - Polidicks

[quote]For anyone hoping that the first spaceman to land on Earth is as friendly as E.T., they could be in for a shock. In the latest bid to get us to cut greenhouse gases, scientists have decided that aliens looking looking down on our planet will be less than pleased with our emissions. So much so that they consider there to be a risk of a pre-emptive attack against us to protect themselves and other civilisations. Anyone hoping for a friendly form of life landing on Earth, like ET, could be disappointed - particularly if they are eco-friendly extraterrestrials When observed from afar the changes in Earth's temperatures could be viewed as being a civilisation that has grown out of control, according to the Guardian. Researchers at Nasa and Pennsylvania State University made the grim prediction adding that we could be seen by our intergalactic neighbours as being a serious threat. Scientists lead by Shawn Domagal Goldman came up with a list of friendly, neutral and hostile possibilities for if/when we come into contact with aliens Nasa's Shawn Domagal-Goldman and his team compiled a list of hypothetical situations, should we come into contact with other life forms. The Nasa Planetary Science Division wrote a report answering the question 'Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity?' and gave beneficial, neutral and harmful outcomes. In the best case scenarios they write that we could swap information to overcome hunger, poverty and disease or humans triumph over a more powerful alien force and learn from their technology. The report says: 'In these scenarios, humanity benefits not only from the major moral victory of having defeated a daunting rival, but also from the opportunity to reverse-engineer extraterrestrial intelligent (ETI) technology.' In the neutral category they suggest we feel indifference because useful communication is not possible and even puts forward the notion that aliens are too bureaucratic and tedious for us to join the 'Galactic Club'. Echoing the situation in the film District 9, when aliens are put into a refugee camp in South Africa, they could even become a nuisance to earthlings. The most harmful outcomes are also suggestions that would fit well in an apocalyptic Hollywood film script with Independence Day-style attacks, accidental destruction of our planet or diseases wiping out the entire population. One of the 'neutral' situations of an alien encounter could involve a scenario like that of the film District 9 where prawn-like aliens were kept in a compound in South Africa Their suggestions to help with our survival against such events include warnings against broadcasts that might help aliens from learning about our biological make-up that target us. The first part of our contact, they add, should be limited to maths 'until we have a better idea of the type of ETI we are dealing with.' The report continues: 'A preemptive strike (by aliens) would be particularly likely in the early phases of our expansion because a civilisation may become increasingly difficult to destroy as it continues to expand. 'Humanity may just now be entering the period in which its rapid civilisational expansion could be detected by an ETI because our expansion is changing the composition of the Earth's atmosphere, via greenhouse gas emissions.' It adds: 'These scenarios give us reason to limit our growth and reduce our impact on global ecosystems. It would be particularly important for us to limit our emissions of greenhouse gases, since atmospheric composition can be observed from other planets.'[/quote] Source = [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2027723/Aliens-vs-humans-Eco-friendly-extraterrestrials-wipe-planet-Earth-protect-civilisations.html[/url] To be honest, if they took [B]one[/B] look at daily mail, our entire planet will be obliterated. I wouldn't fault them for it, either. That being said, it sounds like an interesting paper by the people at 'Nasa'. Perhaps daily fail meant NASA.

[IMG]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/12/12/movies/12still.xlarge1.jpg[/IMG] not even original daily mail

[QUOTE=lockdown6;31876201]if you thought this article was so shit why did you post it[/QUOTE] [quote]it sounds like an [B]interesting[/B] paper[/quote] If you thought my posting the article was so shit, why did you decide to post [I]without even reading the article.[/I]

[QUOTE=lockdown6;31876201]if you thought this article was so shit why did you post it[/QUOTE]Comedy.

Why would aliens be any less pleased? They'd probably have to go through the same process of polluting their own planet just to get proper space travel to reach Earth.

[QUOTE=Contag;31876237]If you thought my posting the article was so shit, why did you decide to post [I]without even fucking the article.[/I][/QUOTE] Why would he fuck the article?

[QUOTE=CharadesV2;31876243]Why would he fuck the article?[/QUOTE] Because it feels good.

[QUOTE=Contag;31876252]Because it feels good.[/QUOTE] Teach me your ways.

[quote]since atmospheric composition can be observed from other planets[/quote] If we pollute the planet enough, we could make it appear inhabitable! Space stealth!

I doubt that most space-faring races would be so genocidal. And even if so, at least a few in existence would probably just steer clear of this rotting backwater, or if their government believes themselves as some sort of "cosmic teacher" (it could happen, space is mighty big), they'd probably invade, subjugate us, and change our culture so that we end up revering and respecting the balance of planets. Or alternatively if they weren't generalistic idiots who attribute the crimes of the oil barons to the entire species, they'd probably launch strategic surgical attacks on the polluting aspects of Earth's infrastructure, sending their ground troops to occupy the refineries and coal pits, then easing out the fossil fuels and distributing cleaner alternatives in an attempt to enforce the eco-friendliness policy they've adhered to since the "First Waves". (First Waves being related to their world's sea levels rising and flooding the coastal cities) Or there's an alternative scenario where they are lifeforms that metabolise certain greenhouse gases like methane and CO2 to live, thus seeking a sort of "sybiosis" with our polluting lifestyle or even manipulating us to pollute further. Hey, space is too big for some things not to happen somewhere.

[QUOTE=ironman17;31876502][b]I doubt that most space-faring races would be so genocidal.[/b] And even if so, at least a few in existence would probably just steer clear of this rotting backwater, or if their government believes themselves as some sort of "cosmic teacher" (it could happen, space is mighty big), they'd probably invade, subjugate us, and change our culture so that we end up revering and respecting the balance of planets. Or alternatively if they weren't generalistic idiots who attribute the crimes of the oil barons to the entire species, they'd probably launch strategic surgical attacks on the offending aspects, occupying the refineries and coal pits, then easing out the fossil fuels and distributing cleaner alternatives in an attempt to enforce the eco-friendliness. Or there's an alternative scenario where they are lifeforms that metabolise certain greenhouse gases like methane and CO2 to live, thus seeking a sort of "sybiosis" with our polluting lifestyle or even manipulating us to pollute further. Hey, space is too big for some things not to happen somewhere.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/20/article-0-031999DE0000044D-549_468x382.jpg[/img] I think so.

Any real evidence to back that up? And no, the movies and video games don't constitute as evidence. Or is that just what you believe? If so i'll leave you to your delusions of terror and misunderstanding.

Any species capable of interplanetary travel is way too far ahead to be threatened by our shithole. As much as I hated the book, I think Slaughterhouse-Five probably had it right on how humans overestimate our danger to the universe.

[QUOTE=ironman17;31876535]Any real evidence to back that up? And no, the movies and video games don't constitute as evidence.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing you didn't know that Stephen Hawking, one of the worlds most renowned physicists, has said it's extremely unlikely any 'space-faring' race would be so kind to us. They are likely to be extremely nomadic. Now how are we to gather evidence on such a subject? Study aliens? It's not like we can find any for Christs sake. I'd like to see [i]your[/i] evidence, seeing you brought up the subject. [editline]22nd August 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=FZE;31876585]Any species capable of interplanetary travel is way too far ahead to be threatened by our shithole. As much as I hated the book, I think Slaughterhouse-Five probably had it right on how humans overestimate our danger to the universe.[/QUOTE] This is true, but if aliens ever came across us they'd just pillage the solar system like vikings.

Wouldn't it be much easier for them to just remove the co2?

when I read the title I thought it was going to be the Onion

[QUOTE=cathal6606;31876634]Wouldn't it be much easier for them to just remove the co2?[/QUOTE] Plus, the only way to kill the Human race effectively is to basically fuck-over the surface of the planet, which in turn goes against the 'eco' part of it, now doesn't it?

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31876656]Plus, the only way to kill the Human race effectively is to basically fuck-over the surface of the planet, which in turn goes against the 'eco' part of it, now doesn't it?[/QUOTE]Not really, just engineer a virus that specifically targets humans and you've created a way to easily kill the entire population.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;31876719]Not really, just engineer a virus that specifically targets humans and you've created a way to easily kill the entire population.[/QUOTE] Something like that is very hard to control, what if it evolves to work on other species as well? I assume that's what happened with Ebola (it's obviously man-made).

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31876743]Something like that is very hard to control, what if it evolves to work on other species as well? I assume that's what happened with Ebola (it's obviously man-made).[/QUOTE]Ebola? What the hell? Anyway, they just have to inhibit its ability to mutate, which, for a space faring civilization, I'd imagine would not be that hard. Also, no alien species would actually give a damn unless they had some weird space alien form of Green Peace. Honestly, there is no reason for any alien species to come here. If they need resources, they can get them from any of the other planets or moons in the solar system, they could get water in the form of ice from a planet like Neptune, and if they are out for conquest, they don't care about pollution and will just kill everything that moves. Really, they'd only come if they wanted to take the creatures we have here, which includes humans. The other option is if their planet had been rendered uninhabitable for some reason, which means they likely do not care what happens overall, since they will be reshaping it to fit their needs.

Hey, even fucking Hawkins said that it's a fucking stupid idea to send out a signal into space with a location for Earth.

A few days ago on /b/, there was this thread about this man named "Jake" who was one of 6 secret "ambassadors" of the earth. He claimed he legally did not exist. He said that 10 years ago we came in contact with a species from another planet, who were miles ahead of us in technology. Supposedly the alien species were at first very friendly and shared some of their technologies with us. However about a month ago, Jake said that the alien species said they would be enslaving the entire earth because they were unhappy about what the humans were doing to the earth, and they had done this to I think 6 other planets before ours. Apparently they're supposed to be here by "next fall" It seemed crazy but it was pretty interesting to read, the guy could answer a lot of complicated questions people were asking. I'm trying to find a picture or an archive of the thread, it's way more complex than what I summed up.

[QUOTE=Contag;31876262]If we pollute the planet enough, we could make it appear inhabitable! Space stealth![/QUOTE] Mercury, Venus, Venus 2, Mars...

If we encountered alien life they would probably be more advanced than Humans, they may share some of their technology but they wouldn't be stupid enough to allow humans to reach the same technology levels as them, they would always want us to be below them for their own safety. Eventually it could end badly if Humans took a step too far. Also would be cool if you could find that /b/ thread, sounds like a good read.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;31876719]Not really, just engineer a virus that specifically targets humans and you've created a way to easily kill the entire population.[/QUOTE] Us humans are part of this planet's ecosystem and have an enormous impact on it. Simply removing us from the equation would wreak all kinds of havoc on it.

[QUOTE=sam.clarke;31876997]If we encountered alien life they would probably be more advanced than Humans, they may share some of their technology but they wouldn't be stupid enough to allow humans to reach the same technology levels as them, they would always want us to be below them for their own safety. Eventually it could end badly if Humans took a step too far. Also would be cool if you could find that /b/ thread, sounds like a good read.[/QUOTE] You are assuming the aliens are more xenophobic and insecure than significant amount of humanity. The general trend within our populace is for the western developed nations to support the less develiped ones (Afrika), even though they obviously lose their relative supermacy in the process. Of course, xenophobic violent alien race is a possibility, but an alien race which would accept us and perhaps support our own development seems possible as well, and as this is the direction our own civilization seems to be heading to, to me it seems more probable.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;31876987]Mercury, Venus, Venus 2, Mars...[/QUOTE] Well it worked, only the smartest of the conspiracy theorists know of the subterranean Vesuvians. The atmosphere destroys all probes! Prima facie evidence right there.

[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;31877058]Us humans are part of this planet's ecosystem and have an enormous impact on it. Simply removing us from the equation would wreak all kinds of havoc on it.[/QUOTE]If people were to disappear suddenly, then yeah, it'd be pretty dramatic for a time but it would adjust. But if it were over a period of months or even years, the effects would be miniscule.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31876520][img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/20/article-0-031999DE0000044D-549_468x382.jpg[/img] I think so.[/QUOTE] you should really get text to backup claims instead of a picture.

Fuck those Aliens! We have our RIGHTS! THIS IS OUR WORLD! If we want to pollute our planet, it's OUR FUCKING BUSINESS! Stay out of earth you freaking extra terrestrials bastards But seriously, If I was an alien, I would just ignore Earth if this planet is so polluted.