[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInkduXOQac[/media]
It's in german but still cool none the less.
Holy shit imagine how hungry he gets after all the muscle spasms and the weed.
It's almost shocking to see him transform like that completely... From erratic uncontrollable movement, to complete calmth in twenty minutes. I hope we get to research this more, this could help so many people.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;47059400]It's almost shocking to see him transform like that completely... From erratic uncontrollable movement, to complete calmth in twenty minutes. I hope we get to research this more, this could help so many people.[/QUOTE]
I've seen the same thing happen with people suffering from cerebral palsy. They're a complete shaky wreck, constantly jittering and shaking and needing to have their head in a brace, with severe trouble vocalizing anything (without sounding like a wounded animal), then they get a joint going and five minutes later they've got almost no motor tics and they can carry on a lucid conversation with you without difficulty.
We have cannabinoid receptors for a reason. Amusingly, the evolution of those receptors predates the cannabis plant by a million years or so. Medical marijuana has a lot of benefits to us, and strains can be cultivated so that you don't even get high and loopy while achieving the desired medicinal effects.
I expected him to calm down but i didn't expected him to turn into a normal person.
Can someone explain this? I'm really interested in why THC makes the muscle spasms stop. I know that weed is relaxing but this is just unbelievable.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47059487]I've seen the same thing happen with people suffering from cerebral palsy. They're a complete shaky wreck, constantly jittering and shaking and needing to have their head in a brace, with severe trouble vocalizing anything (without sounding like a wounded animal), then they get a joint going and five minutes later they've got almost no motor tics and they can carry on a lucid conversation with you without difficulty.
We have cannabinoid receptors for a reason. Amusingly, the evolution of those receptors predates the cannabis plant by a million years or so. Medical marijuana has a lot of benefits to us, and strains can be cultivated so that you don't even get high and loopy while achieving the desired medicinal effects.[/QUOTE]
Damn, my brother has pretty bad CP, I've always wondered what getting high would do for him.
[editline]2nd February 2015[/editline]
Got any links to articles on the subject?
[QUOTE=thermobaric;47059499]I expected him to calm down but i didn't expected him to turn into a normal person.
Can someone explain this? I'm really interested in why THC makes the muscle spasms stop. I know that weed is relaxing but this is just unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
Well, US research has pretty much been frozen at a standstill for 80 years, but that's now changing (Obama ordered tons of it for official MMJ research). The Canadian government commissioned a study on marijuana in... the 70s? or the 80s, one of the two, and has sat on it and never released it.
There's a lot we don't fully understand about cannabinoids and their effect on the human body, because until lately, research has been almost flatly illegal among the major countries with large medical R&D budgets. It's hard to conduct a gold-standard double-blind study when you need to possess and administer a Schedule 1 drug (which, in the US federal classification, is for drugs with NO current medical use! Sched 1 includes roofies, LSD, and heroin, but not cocaine or meth--yes, to the feds, weed is worse than meth) to people, so there are few to no proper studies done, only smaller tests and single cases where it's had benefits.
Cannabinoids appear to bind to certain kinds of neuroreceptors, sort of acting like a bandaid that patches over things and re-establishes normal processes. I say appears because fuck if I'm a doctor and we don't know for sure yet.
[QUOTE=Del91;47059530]Damn, my brother has pretty bad CP, I've always wondered what getting high would do for him.
[editline]2nd February 2015[/editline]
Got any links to articles on the subject?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.medicaljane.com/2014/07/07/cannabis-classroom-cerebral-palsy-and-medical-marijuana/"]I haven't vetted the articles this page talks about, but, I found this regarding CP.[/URL] It's also very well-documented to help with pain, and is a lot healthier for your body (depending on how you ingest it) than taking prescription painkillers all the time. A friend of mine has CP and is permanently confined to a wheelchair, and a few puffs on a joint means night and day as far as muscle tension and pain go.
In a medical marijuana case in Canada (R v Mernagh), one patient submitted written testimony where he admitted to going to his doctor and asking him to sever his spinal cord because his legs were in such chronic agony and he couldn't get medical weed (which was the only practical thing that worked for him).
This lady has a massive speech impediment because one side of her body is less responsive than the other due to her CP. [URL="http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/09/23/see-how-marijuana-dramatically-instantly-changes-the-way-this-girl-is-affected-by-her-cerebral-palsy/"]According to the story I found it in[/URL], she blames her inability to forgive her husband for making fun of her speech problems as the reason he went down to the basement and hung himself, so it literally drove the one she loved the most to suicide. She tokes up at about the 5-minute mark.
[video=youtube;v3pTZmHCyM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pTZmHCyM4[/video]
I want to emphasize that medical marijuana is often grown and bred to minimize the THC content while maximizing the amount of cannabidol (CBD) and cannabinol (CBN) content; this means the stoner effects are minimized while delivering the medical kick desired.
A perfect example is the strain Charlotte's Web, named [URL="http://time.com/3264691/medical-marijauna-epilepsy-research-charlottes-web-study/"]after the girl it was grown for to help her with life-wrecking, near-constant seizures[/URL]. [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/09/charlotte-figi-6-year-old-marijuana-medical_n_3734283.html"]She was really fucked up and it caused brain damage, but she's now healing and essentially normal[/URL] thanks to the oil extract of the strain grown for her.
I suffer from depression and anxiety, and if I'm having an awful day and my mood is halfway between self-loathing and helplessness, five minutes after I've had a smoke, my mood lifts instantly and things don't seem so terrible.
like how the video is 4:20
[QUOTE=thermobaric;47059499]I expected him to calm down but i didn't expected him to turn into a normal person.
Can someone explain this? I'm really interested in why THC makes the muscle spasms stop. I know that weed is relaxing but this is just unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
my understanding is the THC just slows down and impedes how your neurons communicate across your whole body (depending on the strain but generally it does).. in the brain it's gonna calm down random electrical "noise" that makes tourettes or epilepsy or things like that.
I still don't understand why CBD is illegal in Canada
His arms are like FUCKING CANNONS!!!
[QUOTE=Penguiin;47060748]my understanding is the THC just slows down and impedes how your neurons communicate across your whole body (depending on the strain but generally it does).. in the brain it's gonna calm down random electrical "noise" that makes tourettes or epilepsy or things like that.[/QUOTE]
It's not the THC that does the job, it's the CBD. Most medical marijuana related studies involving cancer or mental illness patience can smoke or vaporize pure CBD tincture and achieve the medicinal properties without actually getting high as fuck.
wonder how much you'd have to smoke a day to keep the effect constant
[QUOTE=General J;47061102]wonder how much you'd have to smoke a day to keep the effect constant[/QUOTE]
It says in the video that the effect lasts for one hour, so you gotta smoke weed 24 hours, every day
[QUOTE=Impact1986;47061150]It says in the video that the effect lasts for one hour, so you gotta smoke weed 24 hours, every day[/QUOTE]
Wow. So it's either horrible Tourette's or future lung problems...that's awful. But I'd take the lung problems. Though he should buy a vaporizer or something if he needs it that often.
[QUOTE=Pvt Anderson;47062067]Wow. So it's either horrible Tourette's or future lung problems...that's awful. But I'd take the lung problems. Though he should buy a vaporizer or something if he needs it that often.[/QUOTE]
If it wasn't illegal he could have pills of concentrated cannabinoids that wouldn't even get him high. I can guarantee they'd have an extended-release version, too, that would last several times longer.
but how dare people do drugs
I'm going to hell I am going straight to hell. I actually burst out laughing at the mouth popping sounds he makes in the beginning however I am fully aware of how this horrible illness affects his life
But wow that must have been some dank shit
[QUOTE=Pvt Anderson;47062067]Wow. So it's either horrible Tourette's or future lung problems...that's awful. But I'd take the lung problems. Though he should buy a vaporizer or something if he needs it that often.[/QUOTE]
A long-term study that compared chronic cigarette smokers and chronic weed smokers found that tobacco smokers had decreased lung capacity, but the stoners had [B]better than average[/B] lung capacity. The damage caused by cannabis smoke is mostly reversible if the smoking stops and the lungs are given time to deal with it. The tar's not as permanently stuck to tissues the way tobacco tar is.
Also, if this guy was able to get a legal permit to medicate with weed, he'd be able to have cannabinol and cannabidol in a glycerine solution and could just put a couple drops under his tongue and have relief that way -- and when ingested orally, cannabinoids have a longer-lasting and more intense effect.
[QUOTE=Pvt Anderson;47062067]Wow. So it's either horrible Tourette's or future lung problems...that's awful. But I'd take the lung problems. Though he should buy a vaporizer or something if he needs it that often.[/QUOTE]
Or cook edibles or cannabutter that you can put a little into every meal that will last the whole day. The real problem here is that since cannabis is a schedule 1 drug it makes researching it very difficult to do because of all the red tape. If Obama really wanted to speed things up he should at the very least reschedule the drug, but politics is politics. The Endocannabinoid system was only recently discovered (no more than a decade or so) so there's a lot of research growing around our own body. I highly recommend searching for info about the endocannabinoid system as scientists are beginning to believe this is responsible for immune system function and possible cancer solutions. The receptors in the brain are found all over, thus having a huge influence on brain function and immune system function. I honestly think we are at the cutting edge of a lot of discoveries relating to the brain, our immune system, and disorders relating to the two with the discovery of these receptors.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;47062874]The real problem here is that since cannabis is a schedule 1 drug it makes researching it very difficult to do because of all the red tape. If Obama really wanted to speed things up he should at the very least reschedule the drug, but politics is politics.[/QUOTE]
In fairness, to get something off Schedule 1 you would need to demonstrate medical validity; you can't demonstrate validity without proof, and proof requires testing. Testing is, of course, hard to do with a Schedule 1 drug.
Which is why it's a good thing that [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1391284"]Obama ordered a 30x increase in the amount of weed being legally produced for medical research purposes[/URL]. He's laying the groundwork for creating justifications for pushing weed across schedules.
[URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1442395"]Medical marijuana is now a state concern, not a federal concern, as well,[/URL] and this is after [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1397521"]the previous House made attempts to tighten the DEA's leash on going after medical patients[/URL].
The US government is built to be slow and methodical, and the scientific method demands careful rigor, but slowly, things are changing.
Meanwhile, in Canada, new mandatory minimums that nobody wanted and don't help to do anything but put people into jail have been introduced, and [URL="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/columnists/health-canadas-anti-pot-ads-have-a-pungent-odour-of-politics/article22719614/"]Health Canada spent $7 million in taxpayer's money on anti-marijuana ads in 2014[/URL] (compared to $2 million [I]total[/I] in 2013 for all ad topics) at a convenient time for the Conservative party to piggyback it onto their political agenda.
America, send help. We need an infusion of freedom. We promise not to burn the White House down this time.
This thread makes me really happy
[editline]2nd February 2015[/editline]
Mainly because it struggles me so hard to see other people hindered by their own bodies, and seeing them freed from that type of hell is really nice
Oh man. Imagine forgetting to roll a joint for the next day.
i really can't believe this, holy shit
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47062963]In fairness, to get something off Schedule 1 you would need to demonstrate medical validity; you can't demonstrate validity without proof, and proof requires testing. Testing is, of course, hard to do with a Schedule 1 drug.
Which is why it's a good thing that [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1391284"]Obama ordered a 30x increase in the amount of weed being legally produced for medical research purposes[/URL]. He's laying the groundwork for creating justifications for pushing weed across schedules.
[URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1442395"]Medical marijuana is now a state concern, not a federal concern, as well,[/URL] and this is after [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1397521"]the previous House made attempts to tighten the DEA's leash on going after medical patients[/URL].
The US government is built to be slow and methodical, and the scientific method demands careful rigor, but slowly, things are changing.
Meanwhile, in Canada, new mandatory minimums that nobody wanted and don't help to do anything but put people into jail have been introduced, and [URL="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/columnists/health-canadas-anti-pot-ads-have-a-pungent-odour-of-politics/article22719614/"]Health Canada spent $7 million in taxpayer's money on anti-marijuana ads in 2014[/URL] (compared to $2 million [I]total[/I] in 2013 for all ad topics) at a convenient time for the Conservative party to piggyback it onto their political agenda.
America, send help. We need an infusion of freedom. We promise not to burn the White House down this time.[/QUOTE]
Fuck "slow and methodical" our government is just ass backwards.
[url=http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000257]Since 1978 the federal government has been sending tubs of joints (320-360) to multiple patients each month.[/url]
[url=http://www.google.com/patents/US6630507]Plus the federal government has a god damn patent.[/url]
While you say it is up to the states and not a federal concern you are wrong. At anytime Obama or a future President could shut down all that's been done for recreational/medical marijuana.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47059487]I've seen the same thing happen with people suffering from cerebral palsy. They're a complete shaky wreck, constantly jittering and shaking and needing to have their head in a brace, with severe trouble vocalizing anything (without sounding like a wounded animal), then they get a joint going and five minutes later they've got almost no motor tics and they can carry on a lucid conversation with you without difficulty.
[b]We have cannabinoid receptors for a reason. Amusingly, the evolution of those receptors predates the cannabis plant by a million years or so[/b]. Medical marijuana has a lot of benefits to us, and strains can be cultivated so that you don't even get high and loopy while achieving the desired medicinal effects.[/QUOTE]
This is because the active ingredients in psychoactive drugs are produced naturally by the human body, however unless there's something wrong with those particular areas they're produced in far smaller amounts.
I didn't say that they were partcularly smart. And of course the feds could always reverse course and stamp everything back down, that's always within their powers.
I fucking grew up during The War on Drugs and Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" campaign. My entire generation was lied to. I grew up not knowing what illicit drugs even were or why people took them, but it must have been something terrible if the highest authorities were warning us. My mom once found me before bedtime in my room when I was 10, crying, because I was afraid drugs would hurt me. As if they were werewolves or some shit.
The current state of affairs, if you ignore law enforcement throwing flashbangs into baby cribs and no-knock dog-killing warrants executed on entirely wrong street addresses, is a step forward, and I hope it continues to improve.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47059611]
I suffer from depression and anxiety, and if I'm having an awful day and my mood is [B]halfway between self-loathing and helplessness[/B], five minutes after I've had a smoke, my mood lifts instantly and things don't seem so terrible.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I should try this stuff, that's exactly how I've been feeling for a long time.
Just got to find someone who has some.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;47062677]If it wasn't illegal he could have pills of concentrated cannabinoids that wouldn't even get him high. I can guarantee they'd have an extended-release version, too, that would last several times longer.
but how dare people do drugs[/QUOTE]
Well big pharma is trying to do that but they want to patent it for big bucks while keeping the plant form illegal.
how did he roll that joint tho
Holy shit
Stay high dude
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