• Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus: Same-sex marriage isn't a civil rights issue
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[QUOTE]Washington (CNN) – Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus on Sunday said the Republican Party stands by dignity and respect for gay Americans, but that those sentiments do not change his opposition to same-sex marriage. "People in this country, no matter straight or gay, deserve dignity and respect. However, that doesn't mean it carries on to marriage," Priebus said on NBC's "Meet the Press." Although Priebus said he supports equal rights for gay Americans, including fair treatment in the workplace and hospital visitations, he pushed back against the suggestion that same-sex marriage falls in the same "civil rights" category. [B] "I don't think it's a matter of civil rights. I think it's just a matter of whether or not we're going to adhere to something that's been historical and religious and legal in this country for many, many years," Priebus said. "I mean, marriage has to have a definition, and we just happen to believe it's between a man and woman."[/B] He also sought to contrast Jim Crow laws, which enforced segregation, with bans on same-sex marriage, a comparison some have made following the president's announcement Wednesday that he now supports such unions. "I think there's a big difference between people that have been murdered and everything else that has come with Jim Crow, than marriage between a man and man and a woman and a woman," he said.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/13/priebus-same-sex-marriage-isnt-a-civil-rights-issue/[/url]
Fucking moron.
How stupid do you have to be. Of course it is a civil right issue, fuck sake. Civil rights is defined as the rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.
There's really no arguing with these people. It seems as if they believe Christianity not only invented marriage, but believe that all people should adhere to Christian marriage.
Historically, marriage has been a diplomatic tool to bind families together and exchange houses and materials to survive.
Not exactly to sound stupid, but how exactly was marriage (even straight ones) to begin with a right? Wasn't it more of a religious thing, rather than political?
[QUOTE=Stonecycle;35945507]Not exactly to sound stupid, but how exactly was marriage to begin with a right? Wasn't it more of a religious thing, rather than political?[/QUOTE] I'm fairly certain it was to bring two people who love each other together. It quickly was adapted into religion, though.
My religion blesses traffic onto those who speak against same sex marriage.
[QUOTE=Stonecycle;35945507]Not exactly to sound stupid, but how exactly was marriage (even straight ones) to begin with a right? Wasn't it more of a religious thing, rather than political?[/QUOTE] In the beginning, it was neither.
[QUOTE]"I don't think it's a matter of civil rights. I think it's just a matter of whether or not we're going to adhere to something that's been historical and religious and legal in this country for many, many years,"[/QUOTE] You know what else is historical and legal and that's been here for many, many years? The Electoral College, aka the convoluted piece of garbage we use that allows people to be elected President without a majority vote. Historical precedent =/= right thing to do
Historically there was Hitler as well
What a dope. [QUOTE=Stonecycle;35945507]Not exactly to sound stupid, but how exactly was marriage (even straight ones) to begin with a right? Wasn't it more of a religious thing, rather than political?[/QUOTE] Marriage offers a good amount of legal benefits and other advantages that you wouldn't get with your roommate, which is essentially how gay couples are seen when it comes to things like hospital visitations. so basically barring adults of sound mind from marriage denies them of these benefits, thus disadvantaging them. and that's not right
[QUOTE=DesumThePanda;35945573]Historically there was Hitler as well[/QUOTE] We also don't mention that a lot of our great inventors and industrialist were anti-Semites and fans of hitler. Like Henry Ford. I guess in a way Henry Ford inspired Hitler and encouraged his anti-semitism with his novels. American industry is therefore responsible for the holocaust.
[quote]"I don't think it's a matter of civil rights. I think it's just a matter of whether or not we're going to adhere to [b]something that's been historical and religious and legal in this country for many, many years,[/b]" Priebus said.[/quote] So was slavery.
[quote] "I don't think it's a matter of civil rights. I think it's just a matter of whether or not we're going to adhere to something that's been historical and religious and legal in this country for many, many years," Priebus said. "I mean, marriage has to have a definition, and we just happen to believe it's between a man and woman."[/quote] Okay lets tear it apart shall we? [quote] I think it's just a matter of whether or not we're going to adhere to something that's been historical[/quote] Because if its been like that since the beginning, its the best right? I mean its not like interracial marriage in this country nev-oh wait yeah, it is legal, when a long time ago it wasnt. [quote]religious[/quote] The constitution says no laws should be made that recognize religion, so that is bullshit. [quote] legal in this country for many, many years[/quote] Slavery was legal once too. [editline]13th May 2012[/editline] [quote]Priebus said. "I mean, marriage has to have a definition, and we just happen to believe it's between a man and woman."[/quote] Your beliefs should not interfere with the lives of others, dick.
[quote] "I mean, marriage has to have a definition, and we just happen to believe it's between a man and woman."[/quote] Well, one of your party's potential candidates believes that corporations are people so we can pretty much deduce your beliefs are completely stupid.
[quote]we just happen to believe it's between a man and woman.[/quote] He's probably just trolling the public.
[quote] "I don't think it's a matter of civil rights. I think it's just a matter of whether or not we're going to adhere to something that's been historical and religious and legal in this country for many, many years," Priebus said.[/quote] I'm pretty sure people said this same exact thing when inter-racial marriage became an issue.
A belief is like a penis. It's an enjoyable experience for those who take it with consent. Some just aren't warmed up to it, and need proper care, preparation, and precaution for things to go smoothly. But people like to wave them around in other people's faces far too often, and sometimes even try to shove them into people who don't want them. And that, my friends, is rape. I don't like rape.
Even after all this time I'm surprised there are people who don't believe in universal, non-prejudiced human rights. I'm even more surprised that those people are very powerful people that may very well end up running the worlds most powerful nation.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;35945634]Okay lets tear it apart shall we? The constitution says no laws should be made that recognize religion, so that is bullshit. [/QUOTE] Actually, it says Congress can't make a law that promotes one religion over another, not outright ignoring the existence of religion altogether.
just like interracial marriage wasn't GrAnD oLd PaRtY
Why should we care what other people do with their lives?
[QUOTE=Lankist;35946684]GrAnD oLd PaRtY[/QUOTE] xXx~~eP!c 360x quickvotes~~xXx *cue a clip of a man spinning through the air and slam dunking a vote into a ballot box*
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35946605]Actually, it says Congress can't make a law that promotes one religion over another, not outright ignoring the existence of religion altogether.[/QUOTE] [quote=The US Constitution]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[/quote] Actually, it says that Congress can't make any laws based on religion. The courts back that meaning up. Of course there are laws about religions (taxation, what constitutes a religion, etc.) but they apply to all religions equally. It's not like marriage is an inherently religious thing, anyway. We humans are monogamous by nature, and every culture reflects that with some form of marriage. Sure, Christianity has marriage, but so does everything else.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35946605]Actually, it says Congress can't make a law that promotes one religion over another, not outright ignoring the existence of religion altogether.[/QUOTE] No actually it says Congress can't make a law respecting an establishment of religion, not [I]a[/I] religion. Hey you're the guy who said the Federalist Papers were wrong. Still waiting for you to explain why.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35946909]No actually it says Congress can't make a law respecting an establishment of religion, not [I]a[/I] religion. Hey you're the guy who said the Federalist Papers were wrong. Still waiting for you to explain why.[/QUOTE] I never said anything about the Federalist Papers
Do any of these religious idiots in the GOP even remember that Abraham had 3 wives?
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;35946766]We humans are monogamous by nature[/QUOTE] Well, you know, except the ones that aren't.
[QUOTE=Donman;35946954]Do any of these religious idiots in the GOP even remember that Abraham had 3 wives?[/QUOTE] Yes, the Mormons. Why do you think Romney is running :v:
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