Argentina votes for gay marriage and adoption, Catholics crestfallen
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[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/09/gay-rights-argentina-marriage-bill[/url]
[release]Lower house passes gay marriage bill that would also allow homosexual couples to adopt
The reactions of those gathered outside the congress chamber clearly signalled which way the vote had gone. On one side, gay rights activists sang, cheered and waved rainbow banners. Across the hall, crestfallen Catholics clutched crucifixes and prayed.
Argentina's lower house passed a gay marriage bill last week in a historic vote that could add a Latin American country to the short list of countries that allow homosexual couples to wed.
"Love isn't owned by heterosexuals," Felipe Sola, a deputy who backed the bill, told reporters. "If we're all equal before the law, why do we want to give a different name to unions between same-sex couples?"
The dramatic vote, wrapped up at 2.25am after 12 hours of debate, ended with 125 in favour, 109 against and six abstentions. President Cristina Kirchner said she would not veto the bill, which would also allow gay couples to adopt children. The last obstacle to it becoming law is the upper house, which is due to vote this week. With senators free from party whips to vote according to their conscience, few dare predict the outcome.
The Catholic church branded the legislation immoral and perverse but there have been no big street protests like those that shook Spain during its debate on the issue. Argentina remains mainly Catholic but hostility to homosexuals has waned in the last decade, a trend seen across Latin America, according to Latinobarometer polls.
Many countries permit civil unions and some, like Uruguay, allow adoptions. Mexico City – though not the rest of Mexico – allows gay marriage. Argentina would be the first country in Latin America to grant homosexuals the same rights as heterosexuals. Buenos Aires is a gay-friendly capital with bars, restaurants and hotels catering to the pink pound. Five gay and lesbian couples recently married after local judges authorised the ceremonies, claiming the constitution supported freedom of choice for couples. Other judges overturned some of those marriages as illegal, leaving the issue in limbo. All eyes now turn to the senate.
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Good on you, Argentina.
:golfclap:
Wow, Argentina is ahead of most of the US
:bravo: america!!
[quote]"Love isn't owned by heterosexuals," Felipe Sola, a deputy who backed the bill, told reporters. "If we're all equal before the law, why do we want to give a different name to unions between same-sex couples?"[/quote]
Now this person knows what they're talking about. Couldn't have said it better myself.
All the more reason for David Cameron to preemptively invade them.
This is a good thing, catholics can be so depressed as they want.
Yep, this is big news over here... I guess they finally have what they were looking for, equality :gay:
"Help! We're being repressed!"
:Dawkins102: <-- All the catholics over here, lol
I thouth it was a hideout for Ex-Nazis?
Clever move...
In all seriousness, this is a long step in the right direction.
Yay!
[quote]The Catholic church branded the legislation immoral and perverse[/quote]
Uh ok, now let me show you guys a little math.
Current estimates of Roman Catholic priests in the U.S.= 49,000 to 50,000
Estimates of pedophile priests = 3,000 (6.1%) to 8,000 (16.3%)
188 Dioceses in the U.S. Divide 3,000 by 188 = 16 perpetrators per diocese
Divide 8,000 by 188 = 42 perpetrators per diocese
Current experts claim a pedophile could abuse 200-265 children in a lifetime.
200 x 16 perps/diocese = 3,200 victims/diocese
200 x 42 perps/diocese = 8,400 victims/diocese
3,200 victims/diocese x 188 dioceses = 601,600 victims in U.S.
8,400 victims/diocese x 188 dioceses = 1,579,200 victims in U.S.
Average American family consists of 4-6 people
(3,200 victims/diocese) 601,600 victims x 4 family members = 2,406,400 indirect victims
60l,000 victims x 6 family members = 3,609,600 indirect victims
(8,400 victims/diocese) 1,579,200 x 4 family members = 6,316,800 indirect victims
1,579,200 x 6 family members = 9,475,200 indirect victims
These numbers are a reflection of immediate family only and do not reflect the indirect victims within the parishes that are affected.
188 Bishops are responsible for the pain of at least 601,600 direct victims and as many as 9,475,200 indirect victims — a total of as many as 10,076,800 people. Clearly, something is wrong.
Using the lower numbers the number of direct victims and survivors alone could populate a city larger than Boston. Using the higher numbers, it would be the fourth largest city in the U.S.— one between the size of Houston and Chicago.
Oh yeah! Gay marriage sure is [b]immoral[/b] and [b]perverse[/b].
Argentina is also the place where lays the few last real Nazis
[QUOTE=werner;21839752]Argentina is also the place where lays the few last real Nazis[/QUOTE]
oh god :ohdear:
[img]http://www.thevillagenews.com/images/photos/03-19-09/pink_swastika.jpg[/img]
I guess you could say "Everybody is [i]gay.[/i]"
Except for the catholics.
Finally something good out of my country. Now better education and less poverty and my country won't suck so much.
[QUOTE=werner;21839752]Argentina is also the place where lays the few last real Nazis[/QUOTE]
You have [U]no[/U] idea... I watched a documentary a few weeks ago (about Mengele in Argentina), where they also showed pictures of schools in the late '50s, where you could see kids from elementary schools waving little Nazi flags... o.0
Here's a pic from the province of Santa Cruz, back in 1945...
[img_thumb]http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3308/61defd2bf25f16916b5280c190b055e6.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3308/e40e38f6a4ce48d7f17095d468dc4087.jpg[/img_thumb]
It's believed the whole movement disintegrated decades ago, but every now and then I see small groups of Skinheads roaming the streets at night...
In before someone comes in saying how gay marriage is wrong.
[QUOTE=playelite;21846015]In before someone comes in saying how gay marriage is wrong.[/QUOTE]
Before christians troll the thread, you mean
Cry some more, Catholics.
Wait, homosexuals couldn't adopt? Thats bullshit. Not letting the marry is bad but not even letting them adopt?
I've heard a lot of people state they were pro-marriage but anti-adoption.
Apparently it corrupts the kids :downs:
In before Gmod_Fan77 condemns this.
[QUOTE=SuperLoz;21838051]"Help! We're being repressed!"[/QUOTE]
I googled that classic monty python line, but got tatties with safe search off:
[IMG]http://news.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/being-repressed.jpg[/IMG]
Not that I have a problem with it...
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;21847332]I googled that classic monty python line, but got tatties with safe search off:
[IMG]http://news.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/being-repressed.jpg[/IMG]
Not that I have a problem with it...[/QUOTE]
wtf are those rings above her navel
