Dallas police chief invites Black Lives Matter protesters to join department - Polidicks

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/11/black-lives-matter-slammed-by-backlash-after-dalla/"]The Washington Times[/URL] [quote][URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/dallas-police-department/"]Dallas Police[/URL] Chief David Brown had an idea Monday for protesters involved in the Black Lives Matter movement: [B]Don’t just march — put in a job application.[/B] “We’re hiring,” Chief Brown said at a press conference. [B]“We’ll put you in your neighborhood, and we will help you resolve some of the problems you’re protesting about.”[/B] The gunman, 25-year-old Micah Xavier Johnson, was a follower of racially motivated extremist groups, prompting questions about whether the movement launched three years ago to address police violence against black men has inflamed race relations and triggered offshoots that have less in common with social justice than terrorism. Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke, who is black, said Monday that the deadly protest in [URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/dallas/"]Dallas[/URL] was “mission accomplished for Black Lives Matter, not an aberration.” “The violence- and hate-filled messages pouring out of Black Lives Matter seek exactly this kind of bloody resolution, or revolution, though they cannot admit it in polite society,” Sheriff Clarke said in a Monday op-ed on Fox News. “Even as celebrities clamor over themselves to demonstrate their fealty to the hate group, they align themselves with one of the most destructive groups to the well-being and justice for black Americans that exist today.” [/quote] [editline]14th July 2016[/editline] Also, here's some background info on Chief Brown that supports his call to action. [quote]His son died after being shot 12 times by police officers and his brother was murdered by drug dealers. Rather than burn down the block, he has risen to run one of the largest police departments in the nation, in his efforts to stop police brutality. He is Chief David Brown, head of the Dallas Police Department. He saw five of his officers murdered by a sniper during a peaceful rally in Dallas. He is one of many ‪#‎HeroesInBlue‬ actively working to make our communities a better, safer place.[/quote]

I'd be surprised if a single person took up that offer. [sp]Please surprise me.[/sp]

I'd be worried that they would bring in more racial prejudice.

Holy shit, didn't know that about the chief. That is literally the kind of stuff these protests are for.

Worth noting that his son had massive mental problems and pulled a suicide by cop, it wasn't police brutality that got him killed.

Tbh, putting cops in same neighborhood that they lives in is just calling for a problem and corruption.

[QUOTE=Fourier;50709926]Tbh, putting cops in same neighborhood that they lives in is just calling for a problem and corruption.[/QUOTE] I disagree, if anything it would make them more attune to their community and the community would be more receptive to their help in turn.

[QUOTE=Fourier;50709926]Tbh, putting cops in same neighborhood that they lives in is just calling for a problem and corruption.[/QUOTE] this isn't eastern europe tho the practice of putting cops in foreign neighborhoods, where they don't know anyone, don't have to build trust or rapport with the community, and can more easily start seeing the people as enemies rather than neighbors, is half the reason we have problems with our police in the US (along with poor funding => poor training) its easier to use excessive force on some black guy in another neighborhood, than on your next door neighbor its easier to hate "that fuckin pig" than "sean from grove street"

I can foresee qualifications being an issue here, but I'm glad that they've officially called people to come and help by joining the force. I'm hoping something good comes of this. As far as I know, the Dallas police are up there in terms of effectiveness and fairness.

[QUOTE=Luni;50710286]this isn't eastern europe tho the practice of putting cops in foreign neighborhoods, where they don't know anyone, don't have to build trust or rapport with the community, and can more easily start seeing the people as enemies rather than neighbors, is half the reason we have problems with our police in the US (along with poor funding => poor training) its easier to use excessive force on some black guy in another neighborhood, than on your next door neighbor its easier to hate "that fuckin pig" than "sean from grove street"[/QUOTE] It can foster corruption show. A cop may be less willing to stop lifelong neighbor Mike from driving drunk, or Rachael from slapping her newest boyfriend around again, or your own dad for getting drunk and setting off illegal fireworks at 2am. A person is much more inclined to turn a blind eye to crime when they know the person doing it, and don't want to make that person hate them.

It will be interesting to see how BLM activists respond to this. Kind of surprised the usual crew around here hasn't touched this thread yet.

Chief Brown is a phenomenal guy. This is a genuine call to action to invite people who take issue with the current establishment to take part in changing it. Easy to interpret it as condescension, but it isn't - it's a very genuine invitation.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50710881]It can foster corruption show. A cop may be less willing to stop lifelong neighbor Mike from driving drunk, or Rachael from slapping her newest boyfriend around again, or your own dad for getting drunk and setting off illegal fireworks at 2am. A person is much more inclined to turn a blind eye to crime when they know the person doing it, and don't want to make that person hate them.[/QUOTE] If someone took up the offer then they should be prepared to overcome that bias. Hold themselves to the standard they expect from other officers.

[QUOTE=Fourier;50709926]Tbh, putting cops in same neighborhood that they lives in is just calling for a problem and corruption.[/QUOTE] Police officers in my experience try to avoid signing on to work in the place they actually live, but its not a corruption issue; it causes issues with their personal lives and worry about the safety of themselves off the clock. You don't want someone you arrested/fined previously to recognize you on a daily basis. Its not so much an issue for smalltown cops, but in the areas like BLM is protesting, you'd want to work away from where you live.

I thought departments were starting to put officers in the neighborhoods they live specifically because it increases effectiveness. I know it's something they are doing here in central Florida and it seems successful.

[QUOTE=Seerus;50711138]Police officers in my experience try to avoid signing on to work in the place they actually live, but its not a corruption issue; it causes issues with their personal lives and worry about the safety of themselves off the clock. You don't want someone you arrested/fined previously to recognize you on a daily basis. Its not so much an issue for smalltown cops, but in the areas like BLM is protesting, you'd want to work away from where you live.[/QUOTE] Yeah, if I were a cop and gave someone from my town a speeding ticket, I would have to deal with an angry neighbor for the rest of my life. I would rather work in some other town.

I think the idea is more that these cops will be placed in neighborhoods that suffer from similar issues. Not so much where they grew up exactly.

It's a good idea, to be honest. Be the change you want to see.

As long as they dont look into it too much and are in it for the community, its a good idea. If they get smart at all they'll see that they're getting screwed with pay and will probably leave the department for a neighboring one and get a 25% pay increase.

I bet there's going to be plenty of people calling him a uncle Tom or an oreo for being a "dirty pig police man" or whatever shitposts they post

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;50709696]His son died after being shot 12 times by police officers and his brother was murdered by drug dealers. Rather than burn down the block, he has risen to run one of the largest police departments in the nation, in his efforts to stop police brutality.[/QUOTE] They are missing a key piece of information in regards to his son. His son murdered two people, including a police officer from Lancaster, and died in the ensuing shootout with the officers who responded to the scene. The way that sentence is phrased makes it sound like his son was a victim of police brutality when in reality, he was the one who instigated the incident [editline]value[/editline] Whoops, looks like someone else pointed it out. It should also be noted that a lot of police officers have been leaving the Dallas Police Department even before the shooting because their salaries are significantly less than that of the surrounding cities. A $10-15,000 difference compared to places like Fort Worth [URL]http://www.wfaa.com/news/exodus-continues-at-the-dallas-police-department/215006466[/URL]