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[quote]NEW YORK — Police say an officer shot and killed a 14-year-old boy on a New York City street after he refused to drop his gun and pointed it at them.
Shaaliver Douse died of a single gunshot to his jaw after the confrontation early Sunday in the Melrose section of the Bronx.
Police say two officers were on foot patrol when they heard gunfire at around 3 a.m. Authorities say the officers found the boy with a 9mm handgun, identified themselves and told him to drop the weapon.
Police say one of the officers shot him after he pointed his gun at them.
Authorities say Douse was arrested in May in the shooting of another teen and charged with attempted murder.
News 12 Bronx reports prosecutors later dropped the charges against him.[/quote]
[url]http://www.policeone.com/officer-shootings/articles/6358553-NY-police-kill-armed-14-year-old-boy-who-aimed-gun/[/url]
Sounds justified to me, open and shut.
Kind of obvious whats going to happen if you decide to point a weapon at law enforcement [i]after[/i] they tell you to put it down.
Point a gun at the police and they will shoot to kill. It's pretty simple. Watch the media try to spin this into another abuse of power clusterfuck, though.
I guess that 14 year old kid shouldn't have pointed a gun at an armed, trained police officer.
A 14 year old dying is tragic, yes, but I don't see any fault in the article with how the officers acted. I don't think anyone in their right mind wouldn't feel terrible about shooting a kid like that. Especially the mental image of getting shot in the jaw, jeez...
[quote]Authorities say Douse was arrested in May in the shooting of another teen and charged with attempted murder.[/quote]
Not to sound like a dick, but this wasn't to go anywhere in life and it's probably for the better he's gone, still sad for the family I'm assuming.
[QUOTE=Krahn;41721003]A 14 year old dying is tragic, yes, but I don't see any fault in the article with how the officers acted. I don't think anyone in their right mind wouldn't feel terrible about shooting a kid like that. Especially the mental image of getting shot in the jaw, jeez...[/QUOTE]
I can't imagine being involved with "thug" activity at that age. This kid was already connected in a shooting of another teenager a few months ago. All I cared about when I was 14 was playing Counter-Strike and listening to System of a Down.
A single shot to the jaw? That officer has good aim.
[QUOTE=TestECull;41720966]Point a gun at the police and they will shoot to kill. It's pretty simple. Watch the media try to spin this into another abuse of power clusterfuck, though.[/QUOTE]
HE WAS CORNERED AND SCARED AND AN ANGEL AND DIDN'T DESERVE THIS
#NOJUSTICE #YOLO #1LIKE1PRAYER
[QUOTE=IKTM;41721078]A single shot to the jaw? That officer has good aim.[/QUOTE]
You would hope so for a police officer in New York.
[url=http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2013/08/05/news/web_photos/cop_shot--300x300.jpg]picture of suspect/bloody gun[/url]
welp that's the end of him
areolop as a cop i'd assume you wouldn't have made the title as so
Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.
Trayvon Martin's ghost has taken another victim.
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
He was probably aiming for the torso since that's the biggest target on a human body. The kid probably moved right before the cop fired and that's why he got hit in the jaw.
If someone has a gun aimed at you, you get one chance to take them out. Aiming for something large and slow to move like a person's torso gives you a much higher chance of stopping them than shooting at something small and fast like a limb.
I wonder if this will turn into trayvon martin 2
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
oh look, it's one of these "shoot him in the leg" people that always come to these types of threads
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
When someone is pointing a weapon at another/is an immediate danger, it's shoot to kill. It's not hollywood, shooting someone in the leg very likely won't stop them.
I mean, I'm sure a 14 year old wouldn't be up afterwards, but how are the police supposed to know?
[QUOTE=Krahn;41721003]A 14 year old dying is tragic, yes, but I don't see any fault in the article with how the officers acted. I don't think anyone in their right mind wouldn't feel terrible about shooting a kid like that. Especially the mental image of getting shot in the jaw, jeez...[/QUOTE]
I disagree with his death being tragic. This "kid" has already been charged with attempted murder, and then he goes and points his gun at armed police officers. Sounds like the type of person that had it coming, if you ask me.
[QUOTE=Zero Ziat;41721401][url=http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2013/08/05/news/web_photos/cop_shot--300x300.jpg]picture of suspect/bloody gun[/url]
welp that's the end of him[/QUOTE]
Hmm, the slide is all the way back, could it have been suicide by cop?
The title makes it sound unjustified, but I'd rather hear about a dead would-be gunman than a dead cop. Still, my heart goes out to the family, and to the cop who took the shot. That can't be an easy call to make.
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
I thought that shooting them in the leg could also be lethal and the whole 'don't worry the bullet in my thigh is just a flesh wound' was mostly just Hollywood BS?
Another rising star shot down by the NO JUSTICE OF THE LAW SYSTEM! He was just havin fun! Bein a kid!
PROTESTS 4 DIS KEED!
I hope the officer has no regret, if I was in his boots, I'd have shot as well. Guns are way more serious than a knife, but knives still hold a serious threshold.
[url]http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...yH2zyJvHIjy2nN[/url]
“There was no gun. It’s all a cover-up. It’s what the police do. They kill us and cover it up,” said his aunt, Quwana Barcene.
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
Wrong, there are major vessels in both the arms and legs, moreso than the torso iirc. Police officers are strictly trained that when a threat is presented, that they fire at center mass until the target is no longer a threat. Otherwise, you would see much more officers harmed in the line of duty.
[QUOTE=SatansSin;41721580]I hope the officer has no regret, if I was in his boots, I'd have shot as well. [/QUOTE]
I mean, I agree that the officer probably acted correctly, based on the information in the article, but he did kill someone. Death is death, and if police officers can kill someone without any regret, regardless of the validity of their actions, they I would feel very unsafe around those officers.
#Justice4Shaliva
[QUOTE=~ZOMG;41721528]I disagree with his death being tragic. This "kid" has already been charged with attempted murder, and then he goes and points his gun at armed police officers. Sounds like the type of person that had it coming, if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
It's tragic that some chain of events led a 14 year old to an early grave.
[QUOTE=adam1172;41721441]Wouldn't it be made more sense for the cop to shot his arms/legs to disable the kid?
I know its probabaly the heat of the moment and panic/tension stuff causing the cop to just aim at the boy and shoot, but if the cop purposely aimed for the jaw/head thats wrong man.[/QUOTE]
Every fucking time this happens, every single time, it's like clockwork.
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