[QUOTE]The sixth element, carbon, has given us an amazing abundance of extraordinary materials. Once there was simply carbon, graphite and diamond. But in recent years chemists have added buckyballs, nanotubes and any number of exotic shapes created out of graphene, the molecular equivalent of chickenwire.
So it’s hard to believe that carbon has any more surprises up its sleeve. And yet today, Mingjie Liu and pals at Rice University in Houston calculate the properties of another form of carbon that is stronger, stiffer and more exotic than anything chemists have seen before.
The new material is called carbyne. It is a chain of carbon atoms that are linked either by alternate triple and single bonds or by consecutive double bonds.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Nevertheless, nanotechnologists have been fascinated with potential of this material because it ought to be both strong and stiff and therefore useful. But exactly how strong and how stiff, no one has been quite sure.
This is where Liu and co step in. These guys have calculated from first principles the bulk properties of carbyne and the results make for interesting reading. [/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.technologyreview.com/view/518301/new-form-of-carbon-is-stronger-than-graphene-and-diamond/"]Source[/URL]
Carbyne nanosuits, ahhhh I can see it now
What the fuck can carbon based shit not do?
[QUOTE=Forumaster;41855542]What the fuck can carbon based shit not do?[/QUOTE]
The things that sulfur based shit can?
[QUOTE=viperfan7;41855643]The things that sulfur based shit can?[/QUOTE]
We're carbon based, and we can do whatever we want with sulfur. :v:
[QUOTE=Forumaster;41855683]We're carbon based, and [B]we can do whatever we want[/B] with sulfur. :v:[/QUOTE]
Breathe it.. I dare you. :v:
[QUOTE=Bradyns;41855696]Breathe it.. I dare you. :v:[/QUOTE]
You can do it, it just might not react well!
[QUOTE=Bradyns;41855696]Breathe it.. I dare you. :v:[/QUOTE]
I said we can do what we want, not that everything would end well. :v:
Maybe we'll use it to make guns, and then we'll have a carbyne carbine
[QUOTE=latin_geek;41855747]Maybe we'll use it to make guns, and then we'll have a carbyne carbine[/QUOTE]
It would have to be used in some form of railgun.
Conventional bullets tend to rip apart from the forces exerted on it when its velocity get to around ~5000 fps.
We could make an exoskeleton out of it though, that would be cool.
Okay, I literally just finished up Organic 2 past semester of university so I'm fairly amateur here. But how is this new? It's been known about for a long time and all that jazz. Or is this just the first real application of it?
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[QUOTE=ultra_bright;41855878]It would have to be used in some form of railgun.
Conventional bullets tend to rip apart from the forces exerted on it when its velocity get to around ~5000 fps.
We could make an exoskeleton out of it though, that would be cool.[/QUOTE]
He probably means a Carbine made out of Carbyne, that shoots .30 Carbine bullets made of Carbyne.
[QUOTE=Dalto11;41856095]Okay, I literally just finished up Organic 2 past semester of university so I'm fairly amateur here. But how is this new? It's been known about for a long time and all that jazz. Or is this just the first real application of it?[/QUOTE]
Fashion me some platinum bullets.
[QUOTE=Dalto11;41856095]Okay, I literally just finished up Organic 2 past semester of university so I'm fairly amateur here. But how is this new? It's been known about for a long time and all that jazz. Or is this just the first real application of it?[/QUOTE]
If I'm reading the article right, people have known that it exists and it's really strong for a while, and the new part is a group of scientists have sat down and calculated [b]exactly[/b] how strong it is.
Too bad it's not stable at any reasonable conditions.
Great! Start making me cyborgs and robots now!
Space elevators please.
So as I understand it, diamond is 3-dimensional, graphene is 2-dimensional, and carbyne is 1-dimensional.
Does that mean we should make volumetric things out of diamonds, thin films out of graphene, and ropes out of carbyne?
[QUOTE=Nikita;41867991]So as I understand it, diamond is 3-dimensional, graphene is 2-dimensional, and carbyne is 1-dimensional.
Does that mean we should make volumetric things out of diamonds, thin films out of graphene, and ropes out of carbyne?[/QUOTE]
In an ideal world yes, but given carbyne [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyyne#Stability]explosively reacts[/url] with itself, I would not recommend it.
While we can produce carbyne under lab conditions on nanometer (10^-9 m) scales, we can make graphene [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQANDuFYvsc]with a DVD burner[/url] on a centimeter (10^-2 m) scale. Simply 'printing' large swathes of graphene and then braiding them would be far more economical.
[QUOTE=Nikita;41867991]So as I understand it, diamond is 3-dimensional, graphene is 2-dimensional, and carbyne is 1-dimensional.
Does that mean we should make volumetric things out of diamonds, thin films out of graphene, and ropes out of carbyne?[/QUOTE]
Now we just need 0-dimensional carbon :v:
[QUOTE=latin_geek;41855747]Maybe we'll use it to make guns, and then we'll have a carbyne carbine[/QUOTE]
Not before we use it for promotional items. Carbyne carabiners come first.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;41855542]What the fuck can carbon based shit not do?[/QUOTE]
[thumb]http://theinfosphere.org/images/7/7c/Diamondillium_Sphere.png[/thumb]
[QUOTE=Falcqn;41869382]Now we just need 0-dimensional carbon :v:[/QUOTE]
Apparently carbon fullerenes are meant to be '0-dimensional' whatever the fuck that means
Awesome, this stuff has twice the bond strength density than graphene, and the multiple bond points have potential for cross-linking.
TL;DR This shit has potential to be stronger than graphene
welcome to the rice university mother fucker
Will it print?
This is a legitimate question, this would be an awesome material for 3D printing...
[QUOTE=Falcqn;41869382]Now we just need 0-dimensional carbon :v:[/QUOTE]
wouldn't a single carbon atom count as 0D?
[QUOTE=ief014;41871955]wouldn't a single carbon atom count as 0D?[/QUOTE]
Atoms are made of smaller particles: protons, neutrons, and electrons. All three of those are made of smaller particles called quarks.
A single quark would be closer to 0D
[QUOTE=Forumaster;41855542]What the fuck can carbon based shit not do?[/QUOTE]
[I]love[/I]
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;41871988]Atoms are made of smaller particles: protons, neutrons, and electrons. All three of those are made of smaller particles called quarks.
A single quark would be closer to 0D[/QUOTE]
graphene is considered "2D" because it's only a 2D plane of atoms, despite it not truly being 2-dimensional.
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