Vice President Joe Biden privately met with Senator Elizabeth Warren, everyone speculates it's a sig - Polidicks

[quote]Vice President Joe Biden met privately with Sen. Elizabeth Warren on Saturday in his residence at the Naval Observatory, CNN has learned, another sign he is seriously deciding whether to jump into the Democratic presidential race. The meeting between Biden and Warren, confirmed by two people familiar with the session, is the biggest indication yet that Biden is feeling out influential Democrats before announcing his intentions. [B]Beloved by liberal Democrats, Warren decided to sit out a campaign of her own, but she has yet to formally endorse a candidate. In an interview on Friday, she told WBZ in Boston: "I don't think anyone has been anointed."[/B] The vice president arrived in Washington shortly before lunchtime, even though his official schedule said he was planning to spend the weekend at his home in Delaware. Kendra Barkoff, a Biden spokeswoman, declined to comment on the meeting. But an aide to Biden confirmed a meeting, telling CNN: "The vice president traveled last minute to Washington, D.C. for a private meeting and will be returning to Delaware." Biden is increasingly weighing whether to challenge Hillary Clinton and other Democratic candidates for the party's presidential nomination. A small team of advisers has spent weeks quietly putting together a campaign strategy and fundraising plan in case Biden decides to run. He had at least one meeting with them this week in Wilmington, one person familiar with the session told CNN. [B]He has told his associates he intends to make his decision in the next month, an announcement that could upend the fight for the Democratic presidential nomination.[/B] [B]With the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary six months away, Biden is the leading figure Democrats believe they could turn to if they needed to find an alternative to Clinton, whose favorability ratings have taken a deep hit as her email use while secretary of state is drawing deeper controversy.[/B] [B]Biden, 72, has a large and loyal collection of friends and advisers from more than four decades in Washington. [/B]Yet even inside his sprawling constellation, affectionately known as "Biden World," deep divisions exist over the wisdom of him making another bid for the presidency.[/quote] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/22/politics/joe-biden-washington-meetings/index.html[/url] Damn, I did not know he was 72. He looks like he's in his early 50s.

So, hows Joe Biden? I heard he is pretty decent.

[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;48517936]So, hows Joe Biden? I heard he is pretty decent.[/QUOTE] Great guy to be honest, but nothing extraordinarily special. All he'll do is take a good chunk of Hillary's supporters but very little of Bernie's since most of the people supporting Sanders are fans of his relatively extremely socialist agenda, and Biden is just a not shady version of Hillary when it comes to policy and general public view. Same name recognition, minus a lot of the drama and "big business buying out" associated with Hillary.

Probably warming him up in the bullpen in the event he has to take over for Hillary as the intended candidate.

Maybe he'll split Hillary's base, force her in to a weak position while Sanders stays steady. Let Sanders take the lead, build up support, and either have him win out in the Democratic primaries, or at least go strong, then withdraw or force Hillary out, and Sander's will become the front runner with a lot of democrats needing a candidate to turn to.

spreading out the candidates in the debate helps hillary too, the more focused the dialogue between bernie and her the worse it is bc she has no substance to her views

I would support a President Biden. Great guy with a great family. Might be a corporate candidate though.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnG6ggKDB_U[/media] This one, I wouldn't mind.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48517973]Maybe he'll split Hillary's base, force her in to a weak position while Sanders stays steady. Let Sanders take the lead, build up support, and either have him win out in the Democratic primaries, or at least go strong, then withdraw or force Hillary out, and Sander's will become the front runner with a lot of democrats needing a candidate to turn to.[/QUOTE] The democrats are way more coordinated and way less toxic to do something like split votes, their primary will end at the DNC, the same can't be said about the republicans

i wonder what an america run by diamond joe biden would look like

[video=youtube;j3roG09O6T4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3roG09O6T4[/video]

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;48518096]Any republican candidate would win the election over Sanders if he were to get the democratic nomination. Of course he gets huge turn out rates at his speeches because all the radicals are eager to go, that doesn't correlate to votes. He's a socialist, he literally can not appeal to a voter base large enough to put him in office. I don't get why everyone is circle jerking around him so much, you must know he has no chance. Speaking of Biden though, he's definitely a better choice than Sanders or Clinton. No possible way he could be as corrupt as Clinton. If a Republican doesn't win, my choice would be Biden.[/QUOTE] Only reason he'd have no chance is because of people refusing to vote for him because they've been told repeatedly he has no chance. You know what would happen if those people actually went out and voted for him? He'd win the damn election.

Biden is as bad as Hillary. Simple as that.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;48518096]Any republican candidate would win the election over Sanders if he were to get the democratic nomination. Of course he gets huge turn out rates at his speeches because all the radicals are eager to go, that doesn't correlate to votes. He's a socialist, he literally can not appeal to a voter base large enough to put him in office. I don't get why everyone is circle jerking around him so much, you must know he has no chance. Speaking of Biden though, he's definitely a better choice than Sanders or Clinton. No possible way he could be as corrupt as Clinton. If a Republican doesn't win, my choice would be Biden.[/QUOTE] I agree. Not to mention there was a study a few years back that I haven't time to look for that stated that voter turn out on the right vs left is strongly affected by the weather. Conservative voters are something like 3 times more likely to go out and vote if there's bad weather out (not to contrast if there's good weather, this is solely if it rains on Tuesday) than liberal voters who choose to stay at home in the event of rain or other weather issues. I think it was close to even during good weather days, though. The dumbest shit affects elections. [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Incoming.;48518144]Biden is as bad as Hillary. Simple as that.[/QUOTE] How? Not that I'm disagreeing, just curious for you to explain.

We also get a larger voter turn out for American Idol than we do government elections. ...

[QUOTE=draugur;48518419]We also get a larger voter turn out for American Idol than we do government elections. ...[/QUOTE] Evidently American Idol has more satisfactory candidates than the Government Elections :v: [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] There's also effort. Voting for American Idol takes none. Worst case, voting in the Presidential Election requires you to go purchase a $20 - $40 ID and register at the DMV one month early, then when the elections come head out to a polling place and vote, this will probably happen on a work day as well. Voting on American Idol? You can vote by website, facebook, google, app, text, or phone. Many options, very little effort. Very little security as well, but it's just American Idol so it's not important. [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] Ideally we'd make elections a work holiday and do away with voter ID, use SSN or Birth Certificate instead. Maybe allow internet votes through a secure government website if they attach an Verifiable Info + SSN to the message to prevent people spamming votes with fake accounts.

Joe Biden is preferable to Hillary most definitely, but will he be tough on the NSA and banks for instance? I see him being similar to Obama in many ways, which isn't too bad when we are looking at the rest of our options but I want something better.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48518508]Maybe allow internet votes through a secure government website if they attach an Verifiable Info + SSN to the message to prevent people spamming votes with fake accounts.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;w3_0x6oaDmI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI[/video] NONONONONONONONONONONONONO

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[QUOTE=FinalHunter;48518096]Any republican candidate would win the election over Sanders if he were to get the democratic nomination. Of course he gets huge turn out rates at his speeches because all the radicals are eager to go, that doesn't correlate to votes. He's a socialist, he literally can not appeal to a voter base large enough to put him in office. I don't get why everyone is circle jerking around him so much, you must know he has no chance. Speaking of Biden though, he's definitely a better choice than Sanders or Clinton. No possible way he could be as corrupt as Clinton. If a Republican doesn't win, my choice would be Biden.[/QUOTE] Sanders kicks all Republican asses in every matchup poll though. And Sanders and his supporters aren't radical lmao. They're center-leftists at most. He could easily win.

[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;48520048]Sanders kicks all Republican asses in every matchup poll though. And Sanders and his supporters aren't radical lmao. They're center-leftists at most. He could easily win.[/QUOTE] Can we please be fucking real here. I want Sanders to win too but in the US, Sanders is far from center-left and the majority of voters, including independents, are conservatives. Sanders is like the Trump of the left and the only way Sanders would ever have a shot of winning is if the republican party nominates Trump...

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48520069]Can we please be fucking real here. In the US, Sanders is far from center-left and the majority of voters, including independents, are conservatives. Sanders is like the Trump of the left and the only way Sanders would ever have a shot of winning is if the republican party also selects trump...[/QUOTE] Oh really? Cause last time I checked the majority of Americans agree on his stances. [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] Seriously the only argument that could hurt Sanders is his age. The man has the best of voting records and a history of speaking the same thing for 40 years. Americans eat that shit up

[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;48520079]Oh really? Cause last time I checked the majority of Americans agree on his stances. [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] Seriously the only argument that could hurt Sanders is his age. The man has the best of voting records and a history of speaking the same thing for 40 years. Americans eat that shit up[/QUOTE] Source?

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48520281]Source?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.gallup.com/poll/183413/americans-continue-shift-left-key-moral-issues.aspx[/url] There are so many polls you can look it up and get an almost immediate result.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48519522][video=youtube;w3_0x6oaDmI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI[/video] NONONONONONONONONONONONONO[/QUOTE] This assumes that our current system is paper ballots, tallied, then mailing a paper ballot to another person, who collects all tallied paper ballots for that area, then adds them up --- yeah noo. Thats not how it works. Voting already involves tons of electronic information going on - namely quickly compiling and tallying the votes. Allowing more convenience in actually *making* that vote is worthwhile, and we should within reason take the risk of fraud, esp. given how absurdly low voter turnout is in the US.

[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;48520079] Seriously the only argument that could hurt Sanders is his age. The man has the best of voting records and a history of speaking the same thing for 40 years. Americans eat that shit up[/QUOTE] If it comes down to it, Sanders is only 4 years older than Trump. So subtracting age from that, Sanders is clean on what people will shit on him about, besides his "Socialist" stance he's clean.

Biden is Hillary Clinton. Biden and Hillary have terrible records for conservation efforts, tend to not give a shit about various rights, and just all around are corporate sleazebags. Honestly, I want Bernie Sanders and Heidi Heitkamp to team up, as they'd make a very common sense pair. Not only would they somewhat counteract each other on their more unrealistic attitudes toward certain things, they just work well for public relations.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;48518096]Any republican candidate would win the election over Sanders if he were to get the democratic nomination. Of course he gets huge turn out rates at his speeches because all the radicals are eager to go, that doesn't correlate to votes. He's a socialist, he literally can not appeal to a voter base large enough to put him in office. I don't get why everyone is circle jerking around him so much, you must know he has no chance. Speaking of Biden though, he's definitely a better choice than Sanders or Clinton. No possible way he could be as corrupt as Clinton. If a Republican doesn't win, my choice would be Biden.[/QUOTE] Why not? Pretty much every "great" program is a result of socialism. It's just a matter of explaining what socialism is, what wealth distribution is (it doesn't hurt you, or me, or even the millionaires, but the billionaires are the ones getting paid to live here) and a matter of explaining that Americans get a shit deal for the taxes they pay. [editline]23rd August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=FinalHunter;48518096]Any republican candidate would win the election over Sanders if he were to get the democratic nomination. Of course he gets huge turn out rates at his speeches because all the radicals are eager to go, that doesn't correlate to votes. He's a socialist, he literally can not appeal to a voter base large enough to put him in office. I don't get why everyone is circle jerking around him so much, you must know he has no chance. Speaking of Biden though, he's definitely a better choice than Sanders or Clinton. No possible way he could be as corrupt as Clinton. If a Republican doesn't win, my choice would be Biden.[/QUOTE] There are tons of conservatives that are willing to throw their beliefs against abortion and gay marriage under the bus in order to get a decent candidate. [editline]23rd August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=TornadoAP;48520281]Source?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/5-radical-bernie-sanders-ideas-many-americans-strongly-support[/url]

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;48519781]The solution to all your motherfucking problems: [IMG]http://static.grupo23.com/f/cXFzYjZrdXFwZnt2YTY0KSE0NjEyPSYkK3MkMjMgIWQkdmAqc3J_bGs6LSNuZTIhIH1ldW5nfnM/553d34619e4ce.jpg?v1.015[/IMG][/QUOTE] That's how the voting machines in Ohio work at least, they print a paper ballot as well as record one to a flash drive-like device was well as being transmitted, its just those few states that bought really really bad e-voting machines that you actually hear about [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rocko's;48520365]If it comes down to it, Sanders is only 4 years older than Trump. So subtracting age from that, Sanders is clean on what people will shit on him about, besides his "Socialist" stance he's clean.[/QUOTE] Literally all anyone above the age of 40 knows of him is he is a socialist and socialist = bad because look at Europe they're bad... Ironically that's the same generation that was supposed to learn about European socialism as demonstrated by feris bueler's day out

Diamond Biden my man