• Abu Qatada wins extradition appeal
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[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20295754[/URL] [quote][B]Abu Qatada wins appeal against deportation Muslim cleric Abu Qatada will be released on bail on Tuesday, having won his appeal at the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Siac).[/B] His appeal against deportation was upheld after lawyers claimed he would not get a fair trial in Jordan, where he is accused of plotting bomb attacks. He will be subject to strict conditions including a curfew when he leaves Long Lartin prison in Worcestershire. The home secretary has branded the ruling "deeply unsatisfactory". Theresa May told the Commons that the government "has been doing everything it can to get rid of Abu Qatada and we will continue to do so". She added: "Qatada is a dangerous man, a suspected terrorist, who is accused of serious crimes in his home country of Jordan. "The British government has obtained from the Jordanian government assurances, not just in relation to the treatment of Qatada himself, but about the quality of the legal processes that would be followed throughout his trial. "We will therefore seek leave to appeal today's decision". [B]'Horrified'[/B] Mrs May went on to say that the government would continue "to pursue all avenues" with the Jordanian government. They have assured British authorities that no evidence gained through torture would be used against the preacher. Shadow home secretary, Labour MP Yvette Cooper, criticised Mrs May's "overblown" strategy in dealing with Abu Qatada, and said "serious questions" needed to be answered. In response to her statement, Ms Cooper told MPs: "This is an extremely serious and worrying judgement that means from tomorrow [Tuesday] Abu Qatada will be back on Britain's streets. "I think people will be horrified across this country to learn that that is the case." Ms Cooper also asked whether preparations were in place for a Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures (TPim) - but warned it would be weaker than the control order created by Labour but scrapped by the coalition. Abu Qatada, whose real name is Omar Othman, is subject to bail conditions including being allowed out of his house only between 08:00 and 16:00, having to wear an electronic tag, and being restricted in who he meets. However, the judge did not force him to tell the Home Office in advance where he was going if he stepped outside. Before his bail was decided, Abu Qatada's lawyer Edward Fitzgerald QC had told the court: "There is no reasonable prospect of lawful removal [deportation] within any reasonable time. "There is no justification for continuing to deprive Mr Othman of his liberty. "Enough is enough, it has gone on for many many years now," the QC added. An earlier statement from the Home Office said: "We have obtained assurances not just in relation to the treatment of Qatada himself but about the quality of the legal processes that would be followed throughout his trial. "Indeed, today's ruling found that 'the Jordanian judiciary, like their executive counterparts, are determined to ensure that the appellant will receive, and be seen to receive, a fair retrial'." Lawyers can apply for permission at the Court of Appeal to challenge the ruling by Mr Justice Mitting. Jordan's acting information minister Nayef al-Fayez said his government shared the British government's "disappointment and concern". "We will definitely study this ruling carefully with them to see what steps we can take. We understand there will be an appeal and accordingly we will work with them to be able to bring him back to justice here in Jordan. "Concerning the fear of a fair trial for him - there were guarantees for the British government on that, but also our constitution and our judicial system guarantees him that." [B]'Huge blow'[/B] BBC home affairs correspondent Dominic Casciani said the decision left Home Secretary Theresa May in "completely uncharted legal waters". "This is an absolutely huge blow to the home secretary - a very, very significant judgement." Judges at the European Court in Strasbourg ruled early in 2012 that the cleric would not face ill-treatment if returned to Jordan. They said a special UK-Jordan agreement over Mr Qatada's treatment, called a Memorandum of Understanding, was sound and met European standards of humane treatment. Critically however, the judge did not believe he would get a fair trial because a Jordanian court could use evidence against Abu Qatada that had been obtained from the torture of others. Despite obtaining additional assurances from the Jordanian authorities, Mr Justice Mitting ruled that he was not satisfied Mr Qatada would be tried fairly. Abu Qatada faces a re-trial for allegedly conspiring to cause explosions on Western and Israeli targets in 1998 and 1999. He was found guilty of terrorism offences in his absence in Jordan in 1999. The Palestinian-born Jordanian has been described as the spiritual leader of the mujahideen. Security chiefs believe he played a key ideological role in spreading support for suicide bombings. He has been subject to lengthy periods of detention since 2001 although he has never been charged with a crime in the UK.[/quote]I was not expecting it to go this way, tbh. Quite a surprise.
WHAT! But i thought it had been settled he was getting deported! Or was that another terrorist we had?
[QUOTE=dunkace;38424503]WHAT! But i thought it had been settled he was getting deported! Or was that another terrorist we had?[/QUOTE] That was Abu Hamza, he and a few others got deported to the US
[QUOTE=smurfy;38424512]That was Abu Hamza, he and a few others got deported to the US[/QUOTE] Oh! My mistake then, thanks!
[QUOTE=dunkace;38424503] Or was that another terrorist we had?[/QUOTE] They are not terrorists to begin with. Anyway, when did the word 'terrorist' became so cheep?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;38424583]They are not terrorists to begin with. Anyway, when did the word 'terrorist' became so cheep?[/QUOTE]Market forces; the US has been driving down the trading price of terrorist since 9/11.
The ruling's bad enough without EVERY news channel showing that smug photo of him in the back of a Land Rover as he leaves court.
When i first saw her name for a second on the news i read it as al-qaeda...
[QUOTE]But when the British immigration commission heard Abu Qatada's appeal last month its leader, senior judge John Mitting, said that some of the evidence against him was "extremely thin".[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) had ruled earlier this year that the 51-year-old could not be deported while there was a "real risk that evidence obtained by torture will be used against him".[/QUOTE] Honestly, I'm glad he won his appeal, If you're going to extradite someone to a country where there is a good possibility evidence gathered from torture is going to be used, you're going to need more than flimsy evidence against them.
This is fucking bullshit
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I'm glad its gone this way if he is extradited to Jordan it is almost certain torture would be used.
Put him on trial here or let him go for god sake. The absolute worst thing we can do is change our law to make it convenient to get rid of him. That'll do more damage than this man can ever do.
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