The ISIS Corporation And Franchise - How We Must Defeat ISIS Ideologically And Financially As Much A - Polidicks

[quote]Right now intense negotiations are going on at the UN Security Council regarding Libya and the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). The Libyans want an arms embargo lifted so they can secure the weaponry needed to fight the group, which has brutally murdered Egypt’s Coptic Christians working in Libya and travels with impunity in Libyan territory in large convoys. In Nigeria, Boko Haram have managed to delay elections and have increasingly publicly come closer to ISIL, developing a media campaign that's closer to ISIL's in execution, [I]and referring to themselves as the Islamic State in West Africa.[/I] In Egypt,[I] the group Ansar al-Beit al-Maqdis has also changed its name, going now by the moniker 'Sinai Province' and has pledged allegiance to ISIL.[/I] In Pakistan some factions of the [I]Pakistani Taliban have declared they are backing ISIL and share its goals.[/I] On the surface, ISIL is developing into a global outfit with a reach far beyond its self-declared and internationally unrecognised borders in Iraq and Syria. Quite simply, ISIL is franchising out its brand to other groups and becoming the pre-eminent armed group. In that sense it's aping successful business models and it's a smart move. The only difference is that in the business world a franchise agreement comes with a contract. For ISIL it comes in the form of a pledge of allegiance or a show of support. [B] ISIL's 'corporate structure'[/B] Amanda Rogers is an academic who has lectured extensively on ISIL's rise as a corporate structure. "ISIL acts like a corporation because it works, it adopts corporate logic, as it is increasingly the manner in which effective governance is conducted and adopts branding. The ‘black flag’ makes an impact for both audiences terrified of an imminent global khilafa, as well as those eager for such a creation. Consumers will identify with a recognisable brand and that helps with expansion," she said. What separated ISIL from other rebel groups was its organisational skills. ISIL operated with a clear, top-down management structure. Using money initially from Saudi sheikhs, it consolidated territory through aggressive expansion. [B] Switching to organised crime[/B] In June ISIL went further, pushing into Iraq using the same tactic. They met little resistance. The reputation had spread; the aggressive takeover doctrine worked. Like all businesses, ISIL needs cash and cashflow management to keep going. In ISIL's case they taxed the territories they took, took over running of civil services and began to sell oil and other high-value goods including Syrian antiquities. ‎ Sajad Jiyad is a director of research for the Iraqi Institute of Economic Reform. [I]He said the financial side of ISIL will be difficult to defeat unless the group is tackled as a whole.[/I] [I]"The military effort, if it succeeds, will push ISIL underground, if the financing and ideology are not tackled. This has happened before and with other groups. So the military effort by itself can be successful without totally effective at destroying ISIL."[/I] [B] ISIL's 'target market'[/B] Another comparison of the way ISIL operates as a corporation is competition. Much like the much-publicised rivalry between Coca Cola and Pepsi, ISIL also has a major rival: al-Qaeda. ‎The target market for ISIL is the same as the soft drinks giants. Consumers. In ISIL's case, it's all about getting sympathy for its actions and recruits to its cause. That's why ISIL created the state, and it is why they choose brutal, headline-grabbing methods of murder. [I]The more publicity, the more 'consumers' of its product and the more it can further franchise its brand and the more successful it becomes against its rival al-Qaeda.[/I] ISIL even has a core target market that it pitches to. Sunni Muslims, who fear a Iranian Shia-dominated region that'll subjugate the Sunni' further.[/quote] [url]http://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/middleeast/2015/02/isil-franchise-150220152941180.html[/url] Going by this, I'm going to guess that we're going to hear that al Nursa Front swear allegiance to ISIS soon now that they've left the al Qaeda brand name. Ironically, the more terror they make, the more willing everyone is to defeat them and so the more powerful Shia Iran will get in the long term of the region.

once this isis guy is gone can i be the new caliph id make a good caliph [editline]22nd February 2015[/editline] wait are they sunni or shiite i forgot

Al Nusra hate ISIS... there would have to be some serious incentives for them to want to be seen as an associate, let alone ally.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;47194794]Al Nusra hate ISIS... there would have to be some serious incentives for them to want to be seen as an associate, let alone ally.[/QUOTE] They're a speck compared to ISIS. When they both got their start, they were on equal footing, but now I think they can see it's better to join them than die against them. And ISIS has been trying to incorporate al Nursa into itself for a couple years now. I'm sure there's routes for them to take to make it happen already.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;47194869] what the hell ISIS is a militant group not a drug cartel wtf will there be left to go "underground" if they get destroyed militarily.[/QUOTE] You realize that ISIS began as an underground organization, right? It's formally known as "al Qaeda in Iraq" and was the main Sunni extremist group US forces fought there since 2003.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;47194905]My Point is, what threat will there be to a underground organization if its defeated militarily? Their ability to sell organs and Syrian antiques is pretty secondary to their military might. If the latter is gone what is there for them to scramble over?[/QUOTE] Ideology and belief only take a soldier so far. They have to eat, they have to get ammo, they have to get paid. Kill the money, kill the resources to fight. Kill the soldier, they'll recruit someone else with the same money.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;47194905]My Point is, what threat will there be to a underground organization if its defeated militarily? Their ability to sell organs and Syrian antiques is pretty secondary to their military might. If the latter is gone what is there for them to scramble over?[/QUOTE] Money buys guns and bombs.

[QUOTE=hagbard;47194769]once this isis guy is gone can i be the new caliph id make a good caliph [editline]22nd February 2015[/editline] wait are they sunni or shiite i forgot[/QUOTE] i heard they were pretty shiit

I liked Dan Carlin's take on how to attack the idea of extremist islam. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W78LOMMdjTk[/url]

I'm not sure if it's possible to defeat an ideology, although that seems to be a very interesting topic to debate about at some point.

[QUOTE=robodick;47196913]I liked Dan Carlin's take on how to attack the idea of extremist islam. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W78LOMMdjTk[/url][/QUOTE] Can you summarize it? I don't really want to listen to all that.

[QUOTE=hagbard;47194769]once this isis guy is gone can i be the new caliph id make a good caliph [editline]22nd February 2015[/editline] wait are they sunni or shiite i forgot[/QUOTE] They're all shite. [editline]23rd February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Valiantttt;47195697]i heard they were pretty shiit[/QUOTE] aww, ya bastard.