[URL="http://steamcommunity.com/groups/familysharing#announcements/detail/1425692185723666823"]http://steamcommunity.com/groups/familysharing#announcements/detail/1425692185723666823
[/URL] [quote]Steam’s Family Library Sharing is now released for all Steam users. Players who share computers can now also share their available libraries with one another, each earning their own achievements and saving their own game progress to the Steam Cloud. It’s all enabled by authorizing shared computers and the familiar accounts that log into them.
Read on for more information about [URL="http://store.steampowered.com/sharing/"]Family Library Sharing[/URL]. [/quote]
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I still don't fully understand, so if you share your library, you can't use any of your games while the guy is using a game on your account?
The FAQ don't really explain it well...
sorry if stupid question...
[QUOTE=TH3_L33T;44080534]I still don't fully understand, so if you share your library, you can't use any of your games while the guy is using a game on your account?
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Any user who's using your games gets 5 minutes to exit the game once you launch any game on your account.
If you're already playing something, they get redirected to a store page.
[QUOTE=TH3_L33T;44080534]I still don't fully understand, so if you share your library, you can't use any of your games while the guy is using a game on your account?
The FAQ don't really explain it well...
sorry if stupid question...[/QUOTE]
my interpretation is that if someone is playing a game form your library, you can't play any games from your library
you might be able to play something from theirs though
Extremely. Exploitable.
I've been banned from servers before, and I can very simply log into a new one and share the game and play again.
Plugins will need to be installed
This is amazing, I have no qualms with this
In another world maybe origin will do this too.
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;44080751]Only exploitable in games that use SteamIDs to identify users uniquely. Plugins appeared the same day family sharing came out to prevent that sort of stuff.[/QUOTE]
All you need to do is tag the user with metadata (i.e. writing a file on the clients machine), sure they can delete it but it's effective if used correctly.
Last tuesday my friend and I mutually logged in to each other's laptops to try family sharing, nice to see we'll actually be able to use it now.
[QUOTE=Silentfood;44080983]All you need to do is tag the user with metadata (i.e. writing a file on the clients machine), sure they can delete it but it's effective if used correctly.[/QUOTE]
Yes this is a great idea lets make server side mods that write and save data to client machines without their consent.
This is for people who use ONE machine, guys. Family's with one machine but like one kid plays at a time or soemthing, not for you to share your games with your friends.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;44081053]Family's with one machine but like one kid plays at a time or soemthing, not for you to share your games with your friends.[/QUOTE]
It seems to be intended both for multiple Steam accounts sharing one computer and also for multiple Steam accounts using multiple computers (in the same household). How else would you explain some of these FAQ answers?
[QUOTE=Family Sharing FAQ]IS THERE A LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF DEVICES OR FRIENDS I CAN AUTHORIZE TO SHARE MY LIBRARY?
Yes. You may authorize Family Library Sharing on up to 10 devices at a given time, and for up to 5 accounts that may then use your game library on any of your authorized computers.
CAN TWO USERS SHARE A LIBRARY AND BOTH PLAY AT THE SAME TIME?
No, a shared library may only be accessed by one user at a time.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://store.steampowered.com/sharing/[/url]
Frankly, that page doesn't do a great job of explaining how to actually use the service or what it's intended for.
This feature isn't very useful. It just streamlines the good ol' sharing your log in info with people you trust. My brother and my cousin have used my account for years.
Give me the ability to play different games at the same time.
[QUOTE=aydin690;44081600]This feature isn't very useful.[/QUOTE]
Yeah totally!
My free access to over 500 games without having to switch between four friends accounts isn't really useful, right
[QUOTE=HOUSE MASTER;44081752]Yeah totally!
My free access to over 500 games without having to switch between four friends accounts isn't really useful, right[/QUOTE]
Of which none of you can play those games at the same time unless multiple accounts have those games anyway in which case why are you even sharing it.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;44081819]Of which none of you can play those games at the same time unless multiple accounts have those games anyway in which case why are you even sharing it.[/QUOTE]
My brother can play my steam games while I chat with friends on Steam on my own account. And if I wanted I could play a game he owns.
Don't be whiny, this is a lot better than nothing.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;44081819]Of which none of you can play those games at the same time unless multiple accounts have those games anyway in which case why are you even sharing it.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully those four people don't all use their accounts at the same time every single day 16 hours a day. Be real, wouldn't you rather have that many games for free if you could? This feature is great for enjoying those shitty singleplayer games that would otherwise have cost you €50 or whatever
[QUOTE=HOUSE MASTER;44081752]Yeah totally!
My free access to over 500 games without having to switch between four friends accounts isn't really useful, right[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sure, it's more convenient this way but this doesn't do anything that we couldn't do before.
[QUOTE=aydin690;44081909]Yeah, sure, it's more convenient this way but this doesn't do anything that we couldn't do before.[/QUOTE]
lol
[IMG]http://puu.sh/7dUTe/70ee75691a.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/7dUU6/080a91c24c.png[/IMG]
the entire reason for the family sharing is to make it, y'know, not against the TOS.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;44081958]lol
[IMG]http://puu.sh/7dUTe/70ee75691a.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/7dUU6/080a91c24c.png[/IMG]
the entire reason for the family sharing is to make it, y'know, not against the TOS.[/QUOTE]
Except for the fact that they never enforced it. Show me an account that was banned because two people used it.
If only they had implemented this like 4 years ago. I don't have a family anymore. :(
[QUOTE=Protocol7;44081958]lol
[IMG]http://puu.sh/7dUTe/70ee75691a.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/7dUU6/080a91c24c.png[/IMG]
the entire reason for the family sharing is to make it, y'know, not against the TOS.[/QUOTE]
I have an alt dedicated to exactly this. It has 400 games, and is pretty much a collab thing between friends.
In 2010 I lost the password to it and submitted a ticket to Steam, however none of us could prove we owned the account except for the fact that we all gifted it games. I made this clear in the ticket.
They changed the password to the account and gave me L4D2.
[QUOTE=aydin690;44081600]This feature isn't very useful. It just streamlines the good ol' sharing your log in info with people you trust. My brother and my cousin have used my account for years.
Give me the ability to play different games at the same time.[/QUOTE]
I refused to lend bro my account because I use it for communication and want to be always online (and not get him into contact with the smut I deal with all the time).
Now this is perfect, tho. Whenever I am not playing, he can.
This isn't "Sharing"; this is "Lending".
[QUOTE=aydin690;44082392]Except for the fact that they never enforced it. Show me an account that was banned because two people used it.[/QUOTE]
they wouldn't care if two friends shared, it's more in place for when they find an open account being shared around by a bunch of people, or even publicly
[QUOTE=Blackwheel;44082935]This isn't "Sharing"; this is "Lending".[/QUOTE]
well family lending doesnt sound as good now does it
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;44083659]well family lending doesnt sound as good now does it[/QUOTE]
"sharing" is also misleading though!!! grrr makes it sound better than it really is (they know this probably)... it's a nice feature to have, but it does not allow me to share.
Edit: and just a disclaimer, I don't know much about the details
[QUOTE=Blackwheel;44083725]"sharing" is also misleading though!!! grrr makes it sound better than it really is (they know this probably)... it's a nice feature to have, but it does not allow me to share.
Edit: and just a disclaimer, I don't know much about the details[/QUOTE]
if I gave a hard copy disk of a console game to a family member/friend to play on their console, you could still call it 'sharing' even though you can't play it til they stop and give it back
I still think they should allow people to play games at the same time if both people own that game.
So If I play Game A, and the other person wants to play Game B that is in his/her library, and I own B also, it should allow him/her to play it.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;44081053]Yes this is a great idea lets make server side mods that write and save data to client machines without their consent.
This is for people who use ONE machine, guys. Family's with one machine but like one kid plays at a time or soemthing, not for you to share your games with your friends.[/QUOTE]
Garry's Mod writes to your data folder every time you play, all you do is tag a txt file with a unique key for the ban / server (to stop different servers from spoofing), then check it when the rejoin. It's hardly going against someone's consent.
Though I'm not sure why I got dumbs on that, it was a suggestion into preventing alt escapes.
[QUOTE=Silentfood;44085314]Garry's Mod writes to your data folder every time you play, all you do is tag a txt file with a unique key for the ban / server (to stop different servers from spoofing), then check it when the rejoin. It's hardly going against someone's consent.
Though I'm not sure why I got dumbs on that, it was a suggestion into preventing alt escapes.[/QUOTE]
As you said in your first post, that'd be trivial to work around. A better solution would be to put a temporary sharing ban on your account if someone gets VAC banned while using your games.
To be honest, the fact that you can only have one game running in a library is very restricting- having 2 other people I want to share my library with, it really restricts them.
If I could decide this, I would make it so that the main restriction is that you can't play the same game at the same time, as well as having only one game running. This way, three individuals can play a different game at the same time, while also stopping two people from playing against each other with the same game.
Also, I would make it so the other person doesn't have to know my pw and username when we login to the other person's account. I dunno if that's how you have to share with family, but all I know is that I dislike it.
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