Samsung seeks iPhone4S sales ban in Australia and Japan - Polidicks

[img]http://www.smart-contact.co.uk/images/links/logo-bbc-news.gif[/img] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][release][SUB][SUP][URL=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15331272]BBC News[/URL][/SUP][/SUB] Samsung electronics has raised the stakes in its current legal battle with Apple by seeking a ban on sales of iPhone4S in Australia and Japan. This follows similar pleas by the Korean manufacturer in France and Italy claiming patent infringement by Apple. The move comes after a court in Australia temporarily banned the sales of Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1. The two companies have been involved in a bitter legal battle involving smartphones and tablet PCs. "Apple has continued to violate our patent rights and free ride on our technology," Samsung said in a statement. "We will no longer stand idly by and will steadfastly protect our intellectual property." Losing ground? While there have been claims and counter claims from both sides, Apple seems to be gaining the initial edge in the legal battle between the two. Last week, a judge in the US ruled that Samsung's tablets infringed patents owned by Apple. However, she said that Apple needed to prove the validity of those patents in order to win an injunction preventing the sale of Samsung's Galaxy Tab. This followed a ban by an Australia court on the sale of Samsung's Galaxy tab 10.1 in the country. Samsung said it had filed an appeal against the Australian court's decision. Apple has also scored a victory against its rival in Germany, Europe's biggest economy, banning the sale of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Meanwhile Samsung's plea for a sales ban against some of Apple products was rejected by a Dutch court last Friday. [/release] [/TD] [TD][release][img_thumb]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/56096000/jpg/_56096469_applesamsung.jpg[/img_thumb] [SUB][I]Apple and Samsung have both accused each other of patent infringement[/I][/SUB][/release][TABLE="width: 401, align: right"] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

This entire thing is ridiculous, but after all the crap Apple's been pulling, I hope this goes through, at least partially. Fight fire with fire. They get one real competitor in the market, and they do everything they can to push them out.

I hope Australia doesn't get something banned for once.

[QUOTE=Arachnidus;32826080]This entire thing is ridiculous, but after all the crap Apple's been pulling, I hope this goes through, at least partially. Fight fire with fire. They get one real competitor in the market, and they do everything they can to push them out.[/QUOTE] Crap they've been pulling? They sued Samsung for illegally infringing their Patents, which they have the right to do, Samsung are doing the same, neither of them are wrong or doing a bad thing by doing so..

Yeah, since patenting rounded rectangles is fair and all. Guess I'll go patent all subatomic matter.

patent my asshole

[QUOTE=Pastor Eugene;32826246]patent my asshole[/QUOTE] Is it distinctive?

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;32826231]Yeah, since patenting rounded rectangles is fair and all. Guess I'll go patent all subatomic matter.[/QUOTE] it's not a patent for all things 'rectangular and rounded' it's a patent saying that Apple designed a Tablet which has that shape and is identified by that, and is similar to all it's other products in that way. Samsung ripped it off by making a Tablet with that shape, it wouldn't matter if they made any other electronic that looked identical, but the fact that it is a Tablet means it does. Also this isn't even about the Tablet, this about Apple infringing technology within the iPhone.

[QUOTE=Ihazard;32826357]it's not a patent for all things 'rectangular and rounded' it's a patent saying that Apple designed a Tablet which has that shape and is identified by that, and is similar to all it's other products in that way. Samsung ripped it off by making a Tablet with that shape, it wouldn't matter if they made any other electronic that looked identical, but the fact that it is a Tablet means it does. Also this isn't even about the Tablet, this about Apple infringing technology within the iPhone.[/QUOTE] So the shape, so what does that mean samsung has to do? make it a fucking triangle?

Why both just don't develop something new and look different from each other?? Because in the end, they'll just look the same...

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;32826373]So the shape, so what does that mean samsung has to do? make it a fucking triangle?[/QUOTE] Considering how big a company Samsung is and how many people it probably employs to design their products I should think they'd be able to think a design up that doesn't look exactly like an iPad, other tablets can do it, why can't samsung? : [img]http://www.whatmobile.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Acer-Iconia-Tab-A500.jpg?9707a5[/img]

They are like two twins fighting. It's funny. Yes yes they each want to protect their patents and good on them for that, but it's getting ridiculous. Now it's just trying to block the sale of each others shit rather than solve the patent issues in a more suitable manner.

Apple: fuck u! Samsung: NO U!

Fuck off Samsung, I want to at least get mine before this shit happens. Apple, stop being dicks. Now shake hands, both of you!

why can't we just stop dicking around with this patent bullshit and accept the fact that competitors actually compare?

[QUOTE=Protocol7_2;32827562]why can't we just stop dicking around with this patent bullshit and accept the fact that competitors actually compare?[/QUOTE] Since the dawn of the economical times, large companies have always been trying to stamp out every single trace if competitors, any way they can. It will always be this way.

And in the end, it's the customer that suffers

This is like watching two 5 year olds fighting about a toy.

I do hope samsung does not win this one. While what Apple did was a real asshole move, many people want the 4S, why are you trying to take it away? I really thought better of samsung.

50 years later: "Australia now has no more legal mobile phones or tablets"

[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;32827900]I do hope samsung does not win this one. While what Apple did was a real asshole move, many people want the 4S, why are you trying to take it away? I really thought better of samsung.[/QUOTE] Many people, if not more want the Samsung galaxy S II or whatever they got banned in europe.

[QUOTE=Red scout?;32827995]Many people, if not more want the Samsung galaxy S II or whatever they got banned in europe.[/QUOTE] I hate how when companies fight each other, customers get hurt.

This isn't real fucking competing any more.

I don't really think Samsung have a case phone-wise. The only reason their phone looks like it does is because of the iPhone and their intent to steal Apple's customers by making something that looks almost identical, and they sell at a cheaper price. Of course, I realise that these patents aren't specifically about phone design (I think?) but Apple did pretty much invent and bring to the fore the modern smartphone.

[QUOTE=Randdalf;32828141]Apple did pretty much invent and bring to the fore the modern smartphone.[/QUOTE] They just dumbed the design down and did aggressive marketing. A friend of mine has a ancient Windows mobile phone, and that's still considered a smartphone. And in turn, smartphones are more or less just PDA's that can do phone calling and handle SMS messages. So no, they did NOT invent the modern smartphone itself, they [I]however[/I] created a [I]need[/I] and a [I]market[/I] for it. And [B]THAT[/B] is what Apple's good at.

[QUOTE=Arachnidus;32826080]This entire thing is ridiculous, but after all the crap Apple's been pulling, I hope this goes through, at least partially. Fight fire with fire. They get one real competitor in the market, and they do everything they can to push them out.[/QUOTE] This. This. This. This. This. This.

[QUOTE=Ihazard;32826357]it's not a patent for all things 'rectangular and rounded' it's a patent saying that Apple designed a Tablet which has that shape and is identified by that, and is similar to all it's other products in that way. Samsung ripped it off by making a Tablet with that shape, it wouldn't matter if they made any other electronic that looked identical, but the fact that it is a Tablet means it does. Also this isn't even about the Tablet, this about Apple infringing technology within the iPhone.[/QUOTE] So by your logic, some big all firm out there (Ford) should have the patent for the car, and only they can make cars.

[quote]This followed a ban by an Australia court on the sale of Samsung's Galaxy tab 10.1 in the country.[/quote] Temporarily, while it's duked out in the courts. But in IT terms, it might as well be forever.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;32828801]So by your logic, some big all firm out there (Ford) should have the patent for the car, and only they can make cars.[/QUOTE] Most cars look distinctly different and are not really trying to copy off each other. With the phones, Samsung's layout really is as close to the iPhone's as you could get without it being exactly the same. I can honestly see why Apple got shitty about it, and it escalated into something more. My HTC Desire's layout doesn't look anything like iOS, but my dad's Galaxy S2 uses the same general menu design and 4x4 grid with the same 4 buttons on the bottom as iOS does. I'm not saying it's right, but I can see why this all kicked off. Whereas other phone companies may have copied from the general idea, they at least tried their best to make it look and act differently, whereas the Galaxy S2 really does look like it's trying to imitate Apple in a lot of it's areas.

[QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;32828927]Most cars look distinctly different and are not really trying to copy off each other. With the phones, Samsung's layout really is as close to the iPhone's as you could get without it being exactly the same. I can honestly see why Apple got shitty about it, and it escalated into something more. My HTC Desire's layout doesn't look anything like iOS, but my dad's Galaxy S2 uses the same general menu design and 4x4 grid with the same 4 buttons on the bottom as iOS does. I'm not saying it's right, but I can see why this all kicked off. Whereas other phone companies may have copied from the general idea, they at least tried their best to make it look and act differently, whereas the Galaxy S2 really does look like it's trying to imitate Apple in a lot of it's areas.[/QUOTE] Tablets are meant to be a laptop, minus the keyboard, obviously they'll be all the same. If it looks similar, so what? I've seen thousands of brands looking similar to each other. Besides the point, Apple has copied designs off of other people.