Tensions reach the flashpoint as Vancouver Home torched by Anarchists - Polidicks

[quote]A posting on the Anarchist News website says someone claiming to be with the Anti-Gentrification Front, or AGF, is responsible. "Last night, we burned down a yuppie development on 1st Ave. near Victoria,” the posting says. “We wish and will create fear for developers in East Vancouver." Earlier this month a group of masked protesters dressed in black marched through Vancouver's Downtown Eastside with flaming torches carrying a banner reading "Fire to the Condos" and marked with a circle-A.[/quote] [url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/05/16/bc-east-vancouver-house-fire-gentrification.html]**SLIGHTLY STALE SOURCE**[/url] Essentially there's a group in the neighborhood who is trying REALLY hard to prevent the area being redeveloped into higher income properties. I can see where they are coming from but I'm optimistic we're going to see condemned low income apartments replaced with multimillion dollar condos like they say. After the cops told them to stop fucking with one of the new resturants in the area they started protesting in the streets and handing out flyers to anyone who walked past them at intersections. Then they decide the solution will be to torch a house. Yeah, no. If anything this is more reason to push you assholes out of the neighborhood. Go back to your tent cities in Stanley Park. Most of us can live with drugs and grime but we won't live with hippies who refuse to clean up.

Anarchists. Lol. I Don't get them..

Happy and productive neighbourhoods is is the system man. Fight the system. [QUOTE]a photo of a masked man with the establishment’s missing sandwich board sign.[/QUOTE] Revolution?

oh let's burn down expensive condos because we're all fuckups and don't know what it's like to live in luxury because we pissed our lives away in high school and didn't go to college or get jobs, let's go guys!!! hell yeah, fuck the government, my welfare check was a day late!

[QUOTE=Aspen;40784104]oh let's burn down expensive condos because we're all fuckups and don't know what it's like to live in luxury because we pissed our lives away in high school and didn't go to college or get jobs, let's go guys!!! hell yeah, fuck the government, my welfare check was a day late![/QUOTE] So, Governor Romney when should we expect your next interview?

[QUOTE=MattSif;40784286]So, Governor Romney when should we expect your next interview?[/QUOTE] tune in to the o'reilly factor next friday big circlejerk with saxby chambliss as well

[QUOTE=Aspen;40784104]oh let's burn down expensive condos because we're all fuckups and don't know what it's like to live in luxury because we pissed our lives away in high school and didn't go to college or get jobs, let's go guys!!! hell yeah, fuck the government, my welfare check was a day late![/QUOTE] Not everyone's situation is that simple, don't generalize everyone's misfortune to be solely their fault. When people are kids and teenagers, their brains are not developed far enough to make proper life choices. Some people don't have the fortune of living with proper parents who will support them to get an education, and will ultimately become the same, if not worse as their parents. Or perhaps will not actually get any money put towards bettering their education by going to college or university.

[QUOTE=Karmah;40784514]Not everyone's situation is that simple, don't generalize everyone's misfortune to be solely their fault. When people are kids and teenagers, their brains are not developed far enough to make proper life choices. Some people don't have the fortune of living with proper parents who will support them to get an education, and will ultimately become the same, if not worse as their parents. Or perhaps will not actually get any money put towards bettering their education by going to college or university.[/QUOTE] sorry about making that generalization, was a dumb post that i typed up without thinking

I live in West Vancouver. [editline]25th May 2013[/editline] Vancouver, Washington.

Aspen and Karman both tip toe around the actual point here. Instead of actually talking about the actions, motivations, and the like, they generalize and strawman. The issue at hand here is whether it's justified to burn down a multi-million dollar apartment to stop gentrification. It has nothing to do with whether the arsonist is a hippie, or poor, or rich. It's that sort of closed-minded, self-assured, generalizing, narrow thought system that leads individuals like the arsonist to extremism and radical action to achieve their goals- no one listens or cares, based not on the merit of the points but on the affiliation and general ignorance of the groups involved. No one need commit arson if there's legitimate public discourse with real results and participation. I myself do not support the gentrification of Vancouver, and can understand the process by which the arsonist came to the conclusion that it was okay to burn the building to slow or stop gentrification. Doesn't necessarily mean it was the best course. Perhaps it was. Perhaps not. Just saying that there is real motivation behind it and not some strawman bullshit.

[QUOTE=Aspen;40784104]oh let's burn down expensive condos because we're all fuckups and don't know what it's like to live in luxury because we pissed our lives away in high school and didn't go to college or get jobs, let's go guys!!! hell yeah, fuck the government, my welfare check was a day late![/QUOTE] It's Vancouver If you can afford to live anywhere near there you either have a massive inheritance or an equally massive paycheque (or you're homeless)

More gentrification just makes it harder for ordinary people to live in the city. It's so god damn expensive. Replacing the dilapated areas of the city is good, but be reasonable about it. There's a need for some more affordable housing, we don't need to overload it with overly expensive real estate anymore than we already have.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40784949]It's Vancouver If you can afford to live anywhere near there you either have a massive inheritance or an equally massive paycheque (or you're homeless)[/QUOTE] The suburbs are pretty cheap in comparison.