• Hundreds of migrants resisting deportation from Germany at the last minute
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[QUOTE]Some 35,000 deportations took place in Germany in the last 18 months. More than 600 were abandoned, however. Pro-free movement groups are offering information on how to successfully hinder a deportation Escorted by two officers, a migrant boards a plane. He is about to be deported back to his home country. But minutes before takeoff, he and other refugees refuse to travel. Perhaps they begin to shout, refuse to fasten seatbelts, tell the pilot that they're not traveling of their own free will. Such was the case in more than 330 deportations that were abandoned between January 2015 and June 2016, interior ministry figures have shown. In total, more than 600 deportations from Germany by plane were abandoned. In 160 cases, the airline or pilot refused to take the migrants. According to interior ministry figures, 46 of those cases involved German airline Lufthansa, 23 involved Air Berlin and 20 Germanwings. In 108 cases, the deportation couldn't take place as the person concerned was ill. The largest number of migrants resisting deportation was from African countries such as Eritrea and Gambia, which each saw more than 30 such cases. This was followed by migrants from Somalia, Iraq, Pakistan and Cameroon, each with between 18 and 23 cases. Another 13 cases were reported among Syrian migrants and another nine from Afghan migrants "Usually a loud 'no' is enough," the website reads. If that doesn't help, the site suggests "loud screams, refusing to sit down, refusing to buckle yourself in or throwing yourself on the floor."[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.dw.com/en/hundreds-of-migrants-resisting-deportation-from-germany-at-the-last-minute/a-19487757[/url]
So out of 35,000 deports, only 600 were failed to be deported temporarily? And 100 of them are not deported yet due to genuine health reasons. I say 99% success rate is pretty great, really.
So basically, to avoid being forced out of a country you aren't a citizen of, yell and act like a child?
[quote]In total, more than 600 deportations from Germany by plane were abandoned.[/quote] By this do they mean they quit trying to deport them or that one time they abandoned it and tried again? If they're being deported, they're being deported for a reason. If it's against their will, so be it.
[QUOTE=Araknid;50919017]By this do they mean they quit trying to deport them or that one time they abandoned it and tried again? If they're being deported, they're being deported for a reason. If it's against their will, so be it.[/QUOTE] Many of them are from places other than Syria and the surrounding territory. But some are from places like Somalia, which are also wartorn and dysfunctional, so it makes some sense why these guys would be upset that they're being forced to return home to a country with no real government.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50919086]Many of them are from places other than Syria and the surrounding territory. But some are from places like Somalia, which are also wartorn and dysfunctional, so it makes some sense why these guys would be upset that they're being forced to return home to a country with no real government.[/QUOTE] Of course, but them being upset shouldn't stop them from being deported. I can understand people being against deportation for minor reasons, but if it's for a legitimate reason, like a pretty significant crime, then deportation is the way to go. A criminal wouldn't want to go to prison, that doesn't stop them from going there.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50919086]Many of them are from places other than Syria and the surrounding territory. But some are from places like Somalia, which are also wartorn and dysfunctional, so it makes some sense why these guys would be upset that they're being forced to return home to a country with no real government.[/QUOTE] I used to work in transitional refugee camp in my hometown before it got closed( from November 2015 until March 2016), and people of these nationalities or of citizenship we were accepting as refugees: Syrians Iraqis Afghanis Libyans Palestinians Kurds I don't remember any mention of Somalis, but I do think they should be eligible to be accepted in Europe as refugees.
[QUOTE=Araknid;50919093]Of course, but them being upset shouldn't stop them from being deported. I can understand people being against deportation for minor reasons, but if it's for a legitimate reason, like a pretty significant crime, then deportation is the way to go. A criminal wouldn't want to go to prison, that doesn't stop them from going there.[/QUOTE] I think if the reasons were serious enough they wouldn't just go "hm okay you stay then"
[QUOTE=CroGamer002;50919116]I don't remember any mention of Somalis, but I do think they should be eligible to be accepted in Europe as refugees.[/QUOTE] Somalia has actually made good progress in the last 3-4 years with the federal government (and Somaliland has always been a relatively decent part of the country). Not trying to paint a too colorful picture but I'd definitely rank it above Afghanistan nowadays. I'm surprised you mentioned Kurds as a separate group, the Syrian ones I understand, but others are not nearly as threatened. Palestinians are odd too.
[QUOTE=Kecske;50919459]Somalia has actually made good progress in the last 3-4 years with the federal government (and Somaliland has always been a relatively decent part of the country). Not trying to paint a too colorful picture but I'd definitely rank it above Afghanistan nowadays. I'm surprised you mentioned Kurds as a separate group, the Syrian ones I understand, but others are not nearly as threatened. Palestinians are odd too.[/QUOTE] Most of Kurds and Palestinians don't have citizenship in Syria, hence why separate. Note that in 2015 most of Syrian Kurdish territory was under ISIS control, until Western coalition intervention during battle of Kobani that lead to massive reversals in upcoming months. Meanwhile, Palestinians have a huge refugee camp since 1950's in Syria and is raided by ISIS on occasion.
Oh ok that makes sense now.
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