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[quote=BBC][b]Ed Miliband is to set out a 10-year plan to reverse the damage he claims has been done by the Conservatives.[/b]
In his final party conference speech before the general election, the Labour leader will unveil a vision for building a "world-class" Britain.
The BBC understands he will also announce a spending boost for the NHS in England to be paid for by a tax on homes worth more than £2m.
Labour is refusing to comment on "speculation" about the "mansion tax".
Mr Miliband will argue that Prime Minister David Cameron - who claims to have a "long-term economic plan" for the country - has no answer to falling living standards, a faltering NHS and young people struggling to get on the property ladder.
[b]'Restore faith'
Aides say he will tackle the public's anger and disillusionment with politics head-on as he seeks to kick-start a "national mission".[/b]
He will say: [b]"'Can anyone build a better future for the working people of Britain?'[/b] That is the general election question.
"So many people have lost faith in the future. I've met young people who should have the brightest of futures who tell me their generation is falling into a black hole. People in England who think all politics is rubbish.
"People in Scotland who wanted to leave our country because they felt they had nothing left to lose.
"Our task is to restore people's faith in the future. But the way to do it is not to break up our country. It is to break with the old way of doing things, break with the past."[/quote]
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29310512]Source[/url]
10-year plans, those always work out
5 year plans usually turn out better
I wouldn't give Miliband control of the country for 5 minutes let alone 10 years. I would give it to any of the main 4 parties to be honest, sad state of affairs for Britain.
[QUOTE]The BBC understands he will also announce a spending boost for the NHS in England to be paid for by a tax on homes worth more than £2m.[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't raise nearly enough. All that would happen is that the rich would try even more elaborate ways of dodging tax while we continue to overspend on the NHS.
You have one week.
[QUOTE=cyclocius;46051121]You have one week.[/QUOTE]
You have 24 hours, Mr Milliband. Quickly, the clock is ticking.
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Someone in the BBC takes great enjoyment in finding the most embarrassing and unflattering frame of every clip and using it as the main image in articles like these
If he can fix the UK by continuing to look like Wallace with that voice then sure, he can have it.
His entire policy is just tory party policy pretty much, he's as useless as Cameron
UK politics seems kind of fucked, but as an American I can't really say much
[QUOTE=person11;46051425]UK politics seems kind of fucked, but as an American I can't really say much[/QUOTE]
Oh British politics can seem fucked on the outside but that's just the media making people aware of political issues, in reality the prime ministerial form of government can allow a party to get shit done. The party that is in power is able to change any law and create a new precedent which can go against any previous legislation that any UK government has ever made. Under the sailsbury convention the party that wins a general election can introduce the policies they set out in there part manifesto without being blocked by any other party. This is because the party with the most seats in the house of commons has a political mandate of the people to carryout any policy laid down in a party manifesto.
American politics however has a few messy issue that can make it difficult to actually pass meaniful legislation or reform. Such as which of the 2 parties controls the senate or the house of rerepresentatives, with the republicans securely holding the house of representatives while the democrats and the presidency is controlled by the democrats. It can lead to some frustrating situation where bill's are just not being passed at all.
[QUOTE=person11;46051425]UK politics seems kind of fucked, but as an American I can't really say much[/QUOTE]
That's Government for you.
No go away Ed Millipede we don't want you.
[QUOTE=bearwolf;46051555]Oh British politics can seem fucked on the outside but that's just the media making people aware of political issues, in reality the prime ministerial form of government can allow a party to get shit done. The party that is in power is able to change any law and create a new precedent which can go against any previous legislation that any UK government has ever made. Under the sailsbury convention the party that wins a general election can introduce the policies they set out in there part manifesto without being blocked by any other party. This is because the party with the most seats in the house of commons has a political mandate of the people to carryout any policy laid down in a party manifesto.
American politics however has a few messy issue that can make it difficult to actually pass meaniful legislation or reform. Such as which of the 2 parties controls the senate or the house of rerepresentatives, with the republicans securely holding the house of representatives while the democrats and the presidency is controlled by the democrats. It can lead to some frustrating situation where bill's are just not being passed at all.[/QUOTE]
The Salisbury Convention is about the House of Lords, not the House of Commons
i was at the labour convention today and tbh hes a craphat
[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;46051744]i was at the labour convention today and tbh hes a craphat[/QUOTE]
But his speech is tomorrow?
[editline]23rd September 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;46051163]Someone in the BBC takes great enjoyment in finding the most embarrassing and unflattering frame of every clip and using it as the main image in articles like these[/QUOTE]
Must have missed this one
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What's wrong with Milliband?
[QUOTE=The mouse;46051050]It wouldn't raise nearly enough. All that would happen is that the rich would try even more elaborate ways of dodging tax while we continue to overspend on the NHS.[/QUOTE]
Over spend?? What Tory/UKIP bullshit have you been swallowing. Our government spends less per head on health care than the us government, it is free for everybody and independent studies showed it to be the best universal healthcare for its price in the world.
The Tories just spouta bunch of crap and promise impossible standards to pursue their agenda of undermining the nhs so it can be slowly replaced by private firms which the politicians have shares in.
A vote for labour is a vote for mass immigration, no eu referendum and a broken economy. Also Ed is pretty bad.
[QUOTE=Killergam;46054876]A vote for labour is a vote for mass immigration, no eu referendum and a broken economy. Also Ed is pretty bad.[/QUOTE]
Can't tell if this post is serious.
Do you want an EU referendum?
Why would it cause broken economy?
A vote for mass immigration?
Are you literally nigel farage?
[QUOTE=Killergam;46054876]A vote for labour is a vote for mass immigration, no eu referendum and a broken economy. Also Ed is pretty bad.[/QUOTE]
I agree, that's why I'm voting UKIP as I have no idea about the EU, hate foreigners and I think we should sell the NHS so we can close the UK off from everyone else and just build up the military.
-snip-
[QUOTE=shackleford;46052571]What's wrong with Milliband?[/QUOTE]
He's the lesser of three evils, but he's still evil. Labour are just Conservative Lite Edition and have been for the last 20 years or so, and from what I can see they're slowly edging closer to the right.
I don't think anything the main parties are gonna propose is going to get us out of this mess. We need really drastic change, and none of them want to deliver that.
[quote]Ed Miliband : we need more Muslims in the UK[/quote]
[url]http://uknews24.wordpress.com/2014/09/20/ed-miliband-we-need-more-muslims-in-the-uk/[/url]
Haha, okay...
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I don't think anything the main parties are gonna propose is going to get us out of this mess. We need really drastic change, and none of them want to deliver that.[/QUOTE]
Radical change is the last thing that we want. Economic growth occurs because of stability and the ability to change policy in line with economic reality. Things are bad for a lot of people now but just give it time and soon enough standards of living will increase, remember we've only been in recovery for 2 years now.
[QUOTE=The mouse;46055357]Radical change is the last thing that we want. Economic growth occurs because of stability and the ability to change policy in line with economic reality. Things are bad for a lot of people now but just give it time and soon enough standards of living will increase, remember we've only been in recovery for 2 years now.[/QUOTE]
The recession is apparently over. Growth has gone higher than it was before the recession.
Yet living standards are shit, minimum wage is frozen, interest is ~1% it was ~5%, house prices are crazy high new houses begin built are designated to be sold for rent. Fuel prices are rising constantly due to monopoly, banks are still unregulated, people are paying 3 times more for university than they were (it used to be free and is free in germany), hospitals are being closed down "because austerity"
Thats just the factual stuff. Take into people wanting political reform and eco shit.
The government and the people who support the government don't stand to benefit from change so they won't implement meaningful change and won't help create conditions for meaningful change.
[QUOTE=shackleford;46052571]What's wrong with Milliband?[/QUOTE]
He's made of plasticine.
5 years of labour
UGHHHHHHHHH
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46055414]The recession is apparently over. Growth has gone higher than it was before the recession.
Yet living standards are shit, minimum wage is frozen, interest is ~1% it was ~5%, house prices are crazy high new houses begin built are designated to be sold for rent. Fuel prices are rising constantly due to monopoly, banks are still unregulated, people are paying 3 times more for university than they were (it used to be free and is free in germany), hospitals are being closed down "because austerity"
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When you put it like that of course it sounds bad. But what you have to remember is that it's still a hell of a lot better for most people than it was 5 years ago. Sure for the poorest in our country austerity has taken it's toll but for the vast majority of people the cuts haven't actually been that damaging, living standards aren't that bad for most people, most people aren't on the minimum wage, most people already own or are renting a house and most people earn enough for marginally rising fuel prices not to be a serious issue.
The "middle-class" in this country are doing just fine and are more or less as well off as they were before 2008, despite this Labour love to paint a picture of a Britain that portrays everyone as if they're poor and struggling when in reality it's a minority of people who are genuinely negatively effected by austerity, and they are ones who will start to see improvement soon enough. The sad reality of an economic recovery is that it is always Top-Down and as I said, we've only been in recovery for 2 years, give it time for the recovery to trickle down to them.
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