Pope speech compares atheist 'extremism' with Nazism - Polidicks

Source: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11332515[/url] [QUOTE]The Pope has compared "atheist extremism" to the Nazi tyranny of WWII in a speech given in Edinburgh as he begins a four-day visit to the UK. The pontiff praised Britain's fight against the Nazis - who "wished to eradicate God" - before relating it to modern day "atheist extremism". Afterwards his spokesman Federico Lombardi said: "I think the Pope knows rather well what the Nazi ideology is". Humanists have said the comments were a "terrible libel" against non-believers. [IMG]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49130000/jpg/_49130402_010199135-1.jpg[/IMG] Blogger Ian Dunt, writing for Politics.co.uk, said the speech was "highly political" and might be seen as a warning about the direction of British society. A senior Papal aide had earlier made remarks about England's "secularised" society, comparing it with a Third World country. Cardinal Walter Kasper - who has been urged to apologise - later pulled out of the UK trip, with the Vatican citing illness. Continue reading the main story Quote - "Let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads to a truncated vision of man and of society” - End Quote Pope Benedict XVI In an interview with a German magazine he said: "England today is a secularised, pluralistic country. When you land at Heathrow Airport, you sometimes think you'd landed in a Third World country." He went on to say "aggressive neo-atheism" was widespread in England. 'Sobering lessons' In his speech made on Thursday after he was welcomed by the Queen at Holyroodhouse in Edinburgh, Pope Benedict XVI urged the UK to resist "more aggressive forms of secularism" . He said: "We can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews. "I also recall the regime's attitude to Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives. "As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the 20th century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society," he added. The pontiff went on to praise Britain's post-war role in bringing peace to Europe, its efforts towards peace in Northern Ireland and its overall role on the international stage. Continue reading the main story Quote - "The notion that it was the atheism of Nazis that led to their extremist and hateful views or that it somehow fuels intolerance in Britain today is a terrible libel against those who do not believe in God” - British Humanist Association He said Britain was striving to be a "modern and multicultural society" but called on it to resist turning away from religion. "May it always maintain its respect for those traditional values and cultural expressions that more aggressive forms of secularism no longer value or even tolerate," he said. A statement from the British Humanist Association said the Pope's remarks were "surreal". "The notion that it was the atheism of Nazis that led to their extremist and hateful views or that it somehow fuels intolerance in Britain today is a terrible libel against those who do not believe in God. "The notion that it is non-religious people in the UK today who want to force their views on others, coming from a man whose organisation exerts itself internationally to impose its narrow and exclusive form of morality and undermine the human rights of women, children, gay people and many others, is surreal." The German-born Pope has previously spoken of his time growing up under the "monster" of Nazism. He joined Hitler Youth at 14, as was required of young Germans at the time. Late on in WWII he was drafted into an anti-aircraft unit in Munich. He deserted the German army towards the end of the war and was briefly held as a prisoner-of-war by the Allies in 1945. The Pope's conservative, traditionalist views were intensified when teaching at the University of Bonn in the 1960s he was said to be appalled at the prevalence of Marxism among his students. In his view, religion was being subordinated to a political ideology that he considered "tyrannical, brutal and cruel". He would later be a leading campaigner against liberation theology, the movement to involve the Church in social activism, which for him was too close to Marxism. [/QUOTE] I think some atheists can be pretty arrogant, and when it gets to a point where they demonize religions or outlaw it or whatever, it's bad. But I'd much rather live under an extremist atheist government than an extremist religious one.

[quote]Afterwards his spokesman Federico Lombardi said: "I think the Pope knows rather well what the Nazi ideology is".[/quote] I couldn't have said it better myself.

Die

Anyone else think the inquisitions is a better fit to compare Nazism to?

I didn't know Atheists executed large numbers of Jews... I better start on my quota.

[QUOTE]In his view, religion was being subordinated to a political ideology that he considered "tyrannical, brutal and cruel".[/QUOTE] hah

:fuckoff: Pope, seriously. How can such an astonishingly stupid and evil man be the deified head of a massive religion?

Crud, time to invest in giant furnaces and gas chambers, and painting the common atheist symbol on everything, whatever that symbol is :v:

[QUOTE=BurnBlackJay;24861709]Die[/QUOTE] please

Is it me or are all the visitors basically going "ew look how un-christian this country is"

I'd love to be the pope. Get paid for cruising the globe trolling v:v:v

He's going to hell

oh ho ho, one to talk aren't you little mister hitler youth

This pope knows what nazism is. Pedophile nazi

Then my speech will compare Catholic priests with Child molesters.

Why would he comment on it at all? Atheism is NOT a religion. It lacks the unifying belief in a deity. It's more of a philosophy.

One can't help but wonder what he would consider 'extreme' atheism (since, you know, he's supposed to be a religious leader and all).

Religious extremism is way worse.

So...which Catholics follow this guy? I know that the Eastern Catholic Churches do, and I also know that not all Catholics do. Sorry for my ignorance, I was just wondering.

[QUOTE=Funky Pickle;24861931]So...which Catholics follow this guy? I know that the Eastern Catholic Churches do, and I also know that not all Catholics do. Sorry for my ignorance, I was just wondering.[/QUOTE] Roman Catholics, you know, the RCC. EDIT: And most mainstream catholic sects too, I believe

[quote]In an interview with a German magazine he said: "England today is a secularised, pluralistic country. When you land at Heathrow Airport, you sometimes think you'd landed in a Third World country." [/quote] Fuck you Cardinal Prannock, you don't come into the country that just paid several million pounds for your visit and say that

[QUOTE=Funky Pickle;24861931]So...which Catholics follow this guy? I know that the Eastern Catholic Churches do, and I also know that not all Catholics do. Sorry for my ignorance, I was just wondering.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation[/url]

Wasn't the current pope Hitler Jugend?

[quote]When you land at Heathrow Airport, you sometimes think you'd landed in a Third World country."[/quote] What? The guy can't be serious about that, can he?

:godwin:

For god sake Benedict.

Fuck off you hitler youth peadophile

This guy is a prat. What the hell is neo-atheism? Sure, more people don't believe in god but that doesn't mean they are suddenly going to become hitler's followers

[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;24861949]Fuck you Pope, you don't come into the country that just paid several million pounds for your visit and say that[/QUOTE] that was actually one of his cardinals that said that still though, the pope is being a monumental hypocrite [editline]06:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Instant Mix;24862031]What the hell is neo-atheism?[/QUOTE] I dunno but it sounds pretty cool. Everything sounds cool when you put "neo-" in front of it.

I was hoping that someone was going to blow that cunt up or something. Did you know he was actually in the German army himself?