Obama signs repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell' policy
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[quote=CNN]President Barack Obama brought the long political struggle over the military's controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy to a close Wednesday, signing legislation that will bring an end of the ban on openly gay men and women serving in the armed forces.
The president signed the bill repealing the 17-year ban in front an jubilant crowd of supporters at the Department of Interior. Vice President Joe Biden, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, were among those in attendance.
Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen was also present for the occasion.
The repeal "will strengthen our national security and uphold (America's) ideals," Obama said. "No longer will tens of thousands of Americans in uniform be asked to live a lie."
"I believe this is the right thing to do for our military," he added. "It's the right thing to do, period."
This is a moment "more than two centuries in the making," the president said. Over the course of U.S. history, "gay Americans fought just as hard (and) gave just as much to protect" the country as anyone else. "We are a nation that believes all men and women are created equal."
Passage of the repeal was a major political victory for Obama and congressional Democrats. Obama promised to repeal the ban during the 2008 presidential election.
The crowd chanted "yes we can" as Obama was introduced before the bill signing -- a reference to Obama's campaign slogan.
Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank, an openly gay Democrat, called the bill's passage "the biggest single thing" in terms of the progress of gay rights in the United States.
The change won't be immediate, however. The White House has noted that the repeal may take several months to implement.
The Pentagon has an 87-page implementation plan for the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell." Over the next several weeks, military officials need to examine and rewrite a series of policies, regulations and directives related to the current law.
Once that potentially lengthy process is complete, Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Mullen will each have to certify that the repeal can move ahead without negatively affecting unit cohesion and military readiness.
After the certification, another 60 days will need to pass before the repeal is officially enacted.
Obama said that he has spoken to every one of the military service chiefs, and that they have all promised to enact the repeal of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy "swiftly and efficiently."
"We are not going to be dragging our feet to get this done," he promised.
Even after the repeal, gay and lesbian service members will not have every right and privilege accorded to heterosexual members of the military, largely because of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.
A Pentagon study released this month concluded that allowing openly gay or lesbian troops to serve in the military would have little lasting impact on the U.S. forces. Opposition to the change was much higher in the Army and Marine combat units than in the military as a whole.
During the 17 years the policy was in place, more than 14,000 military members were discharged because of it.[/quote]
Source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/22/dadt.repeal/index.html?hpt=T1[/url]
This is one giant step for gays everywhere.
[quote]Even after the repeal, gay and lesbian service members will not have every right and privilege accorded to heterosexual members of the military, largely because of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.[/quote]
well fuck
Now what, do we dance or something?
[QUOTE=JDK721;26878652]Source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/22/dadt.repeal/index.html?hpt=T1[/url][/QUOTE]
Are you in fact a supporter of the Pro-Gay Obama agenda?
Now, to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act. Hop to it, fellas.
[QUOTE=Magistrate;26878728]Are you in fact a supporter of the Pro-Gay Obama agenda?[/QUOTE]
I pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster you're trolling.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;26878676]This is one giant step for gays everywhere.[/QUOTE]
Straight people too, after all, we're standing up to the militant conservative christian fucktards who tries to make society a bit more medieval each day...
[QUOTE=Vinze;26879512]Straight people too, after all, we're standing up to the militant conservative christian fucktards who tries to make society a bit more medieval each day...[/QUOTE]
Heretic! Get the rope, prepare the stake!
Anyway, step in the right direction I guess, but this kind of stuff has a long way to go in the land of the free.
This is going to destroy unit cohesion, way to destroy the military nobama.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;26879754]This is going to destroy unit cohesion, way to destroy the military nobama.[/QUOTE]
dude haven't you been keeping up with glaber's posts?
all the teabaggers call him obum now
his gay agenda will destroy us all just look at it, LOOK AT IT
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LOOK AT IT
[QUOTE=Sparkwire;26878702]well fuck[/QUOTE]
Yeah, "Defense of Marriage Act"? What the fuck is that shit? Is that referencing the defense of opposite sex marriages or something?
yeah its illegal to be married as a gay in some states
mainly because of, well, you know..
''THINK ABOUT OUR CHILDREN!!1 JESUS WONT SAVE THEM IF THEY BECOME FAGGOTS!!1''
Reading this article compelled me to go to Fox News and read the comments. Why? I don't fucking know, because it just made me lose more faith in humanity.
[quote]"Amazing that what was once an [B]offense punishable by firing squad is now hailed as a great achievement. [/B]The progressives love this. One more step toward moving God from the equation. How has that worked out for so far America. Ummmm. horribly. AS FOR MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD. The Bible is very clear on this issue: "put to death the sins of the flesh like sexual immorality"... Sexual immorality should not be a basis for a political agenda. I mean come on... DADT still allowed gays to serve but it realized that soldier morale would suffer with out it... I foresee a lot more problems created than solved with this repeal."[/quote]
Sickening shit on that website sometimes, I swear.
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But anyway, this is great news.
if i fucked a shemale girl would i be gay?
would god condemn me to hell because the tits are pretty confusing and i think its unfair to do that to a guy
i mean what if i had a vagina and fucked another dude, would i be a homo or a hetero???
bible is full of shit
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;26879886]Reading this article compelled me to go to Fox News and read the comments. Why? I don't fucking know, because it just made me lose more faith in humanity.
Sickening shit on that website sometimes, I swear.
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But anyway, this is great news.[/QUOTE]
Fuck Fox News, Fox Nation is where all the crazies hang out.
[url]http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2010/12/22/president-obama-signs-dont-ask-dont-tell-repeal[/url]
What, Jeebus won't let you say "gay"?
[quote]I still want to see the g@ys join,,,, head to afgan,,,, stand up and yell at the taliban that they are comming out,,,, this will save the lives of straights ,,,,,,, the taliban will be very busy hunting g@ys,,, lol ,,,,, now thats hate.[/quote]
You mean 2012, dipshit?
[quote]Who in their right minds would support sodomite behavior as acceptable ?? All democrats !! Just another spear in the heart of the democratic leadership. 2011 is going to be fun.[/quote]
Yeah, I'm sure that when the rest of the Western world allowed gays to serve openly in their militaries, it sure hurt their relations with the Muslim world. Love the censoring of "Muslim" as if it's some kind of dirty word.
[quote]ok,,,,, mus/ims,,,,, does this make relations between your mus/im world and us american pigs better????? dont you just love us now??????? ,,,,,,,,,,, all you g@ys in the service,,,, "dont" mention preferance when asked by ahmed,,,,,, "straight or g@y"?,,,,,, or better yet,,, please do[/quote]
Oh no, now straight people can't harass gay people just because they're gay.
[quote]Now, everytime a straight guy "allegedly" harasses a qu ee r in the military, it's going to be a lawsuit. I just wonder...if the shoe is on the other foot, will straight guys be allowed to file suit against the government if a qu ee r is alleged to have done the same thing??
Well fellas, guard yourselves in the shower. Don't even think about picking up the soap, just leave it there.[/quote]
I don't even know what to say to this. Obviously, this guy must want to leave America because, since gays can be open about themselves in America, it's a gay country. I've heard Iran's nice this time of year, and they don't have any homosexuals there.
[quote]I see a lot of people "straight" that escaped, into the military, from all this c r a p out here to leave the military because they do not want to be considered gay. It will be labeled a gay association and it will turn out bad before it will good. Just another moral that the government took away from the proud. I see nothing right with s c re w i n g another man in the a z z and or kissing one. That is just wrong period. If you do not know this then you are sick too.[/quote]
Oh, and this is what I saw when I Googled "Fox Nation", since I wasn't sure of the exact URL:
[quote]The Fox Nation is for those opposed to intolerance[/quote]
bahahahahahaha
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Yeah, I'm sure that when the rest of the Western world allowed gays to serve openly in their militaries, it sure hurt their relations with the Muslim world. Love the censoring of "Muslim" as if it's some kind of dirty word.
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He acts as if Islamic extremists don't already hate our decadent culture
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;26879642]Heretic! Get the rope, prepare the stake!
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Why? Are you having a party somewhere? :q:
[QUOTE=Moose;26880086]if i fucked a shemale girl would i be gay?
would god condemn me to hell because the tits are pretty confusing and i think its unfair to do that to a guy
i mean what if i had a vagina and fucked another dude, would i be a homo or a hetero???
bible is full of shit[/QUOTE]
what
[QUOTE=Moose;26880086]if i fucked a shemale girl would i be gay?
would god condemn me to hell because the tits are pretty confusing and i think its unfair to do that to a guy
i mean what if i had a vagina and fucked another dude, would i be a homo or a hetero???
bible is full of shit[/QUOTE]
why do you even post anymore
besides, a man having sex with another man does not automatically make him a homosexual. there's more to it, emotionally and romantically.
guys i'm going to post "Well this looks like its a great leap to a secular nation!" and see what people say
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;26880279]He acts as if Islamic extremists don't already hate our decadent culture[/QUOTE]
It's not the culture they hate, it's the history of Western imperialism and interference in the Middle East.
[QUOTE=Doriol;26880481]why do you even post anymore
besides, a man having sex with another man does not automatically make him a homosexual. there's more to it, emotionally and romantically.[/QUOTE]
uh what
okay im gonna go fuck a random guy now because im totally not gay
WHO FUCKING CARES, ITS DONT ASK DONT TELL. AKA, Don't fucking prance around naked with a high-pitch voice.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;26880802]WHO FUCKING CARES, ITS DONT ASK DONT TELL. AKA, Don't fucking prance around naked with a high-pitch voice.[/QUOTE]
Yes, because everyone discharged under DADT did that.
You're a moron.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;26880853]Yes, because everyone discharged under DADT did that.
You're a moron.[/QUOTE]
You're a moron!
Guys I tried to access freerepublic but it seems like they exploded due to the gay.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;26880868]You're a moron![/QUOTE]
You're saying that DADT was a fair policy?
There's nothing fair about kicking people out of the military for, say, saying on their Facebook page that they're in a relationship with someone of the same sex.
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I just lost a lot of braincells today.
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