Artist apprehended in Paris after attaching a live cock to his... cock
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[I]it was a strange day for all in the vicinity[/I]
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[I]no reports if the cock was injured in this fiasco[/I]
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Fowl play ... onlookers stickybeak at Steve Cohen's performance.
"The charge of the state is completely inappropriate," said Cohen, 51. "That puts it on a par with someone flashing ... outside a school. It's really backward of France to insist on this charge.
"I made a work using French national symbols -[B] the cock,[/B] the Eiffel Tower, the Folies Bergere - as well as a very South African approach to using public space with political consciousness.
[B]"It's not terrorism or perversion. It's art."[/B]
Cohen told the court there had been no complaint from people who had witnessed the performance and even a group of passing nuns were unfazed.
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[url="http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/arts/9880320/Coq-and-doodle-to-do-for-artist"] A little bit more in the Source [/url]
Do take note of his previous 'performances' in the source
so yeah is this Art FP?
In my day we used to call them mentally deranged. Now they're artists.
[QUOTE]"I'm not pleading guilty to anything," he said. "They can't stop me being an artist. Art is my alternative to suicide."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, dude legitimately needs help. Maybe he wants to do art, but when that is the only thing keeping you from killing yourself you need professional attention, not a canvas.
What a lovely costume
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[I]no reports if the cock was injured in this fiasco[/I]
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Which one?
"I've had lots of things up my anus in the name of art"
Fuck my tea went everywhere at that.
'art'
Everything is art.
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I don't see how being as outrageous as possible is the only alternative to death.
Artists that gain fame by doing stupid shit like this give the rest a really bad name.
If only people made legitimately tasteful, politically centred art. But no we have people stringing a fucking rooster to their penis to show what? His sculpture work is a lot more interesting
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I understand (and recommend) trying and doing new things, new forms of art and whatnot and the sculptures actually look really cool...
But what is this?
Never change France
[QUOTE]"I made a work using [B]French national symbols[/B] - the cock, the Eiffel Tower, the Folies Bergere - as well as a very South African approach to using public space with political consciousness.[/QUOTE]
So apparently Cock is a French national symbol.
[QUOTE=whatthe;44381035]If only people made legitimately tasteful, [B]politically centred [/B]art. But no we have people stringing a fucking rooster to their penis to show what? His sculpture work is a lot more interesting[/QUOTE]
Why politically centred?
[QUOTE=whatthe;44381035]If only people made legitimately tasteful, politically centred art. But no we have people stringing a fucking rooster to their penis to show what? His sculpture work is a lot more interesting[/QUOTE]
these own
Don't be so quick to jump on the 'what is this, is he retarded, how is this art, he needs help mental help, art needs to be pretty pictures, he is just doing mindless crap in order to be entitled an artist' wagon.
This is a very bold and oversimplifying statement but it is well established that art is completely autonomous. Art doesn't need to be anything and doesn't need to appeal to anyone, it is not design. It also doesn't need to reveal it's contents to anyone. Stanley Kubrick or Alejandro Jodorowsky made it a life effort to make their works so cryptic and overwhelming that their true intentions can only be known by themselves though they are still enjoyed, even though noone can claim to truly 'get' them.
But the bit where art happens has nothing to do with to 'get' or to 'enjoy' any of it. It is purely about the artist's way of self-expression.
This is all open to debate and subject to change, because the true definition of art is shaped by the sociocultural context it takes place in.
The part I am interested in is where we meet something utterly ridiculous, ugly or offensively strange with a appropriate reaction. It is a deeply rooted psychological mechanism to react in a way to quickly push a challenging situation aside and meet it with a quick and clear reaction, in the most basic scenario fight or flight. But other such reactions are ridicule, amusement, disgust, anger, violence, excitement, delight or joy. Tthe hardest thing to do it to not have a quick emotional reaponse that defines our opinion from that moment on to infinity but to meet such things with an open mind and acceptance.
Nothing bad will happen if you accept what happened there and look more closely at it. Your brain won't fall out and you won't feel compelled tie poultry to your genitals. At the worst you will find that this man is a shallow person with nothing interesting to say and no inner conflicts, but from the given context, I highly doubt that is the case. The next time you see something you find strange, try to meet it with a positive emotional response, if any at all, and be ready to look closely at not only what is right in front of you, but also it's context and even the bits that don't interest you right away.
Never brand anything based on a quick emotional response you have.
Strapping a cock to your dick is not, and will never be art, no matter how you try and spin it.
It's an inception joke in the form of performance art. Who'd have thought it.
Anything can be art but not all art is good or tasteful, this is neither.
While there's no question as to whether or not this is art (it is), personally I don't think that art that's meant to invoke a reaction is compelling at all. And I don't mean a reaction to the subject or what is being conveyed, I mean a reaction to the art itself. Shock value for lack of a better term.
To me art gains value by having a lens, a context, through which you can relate to and appreciate it with. It expresses something that otherwise couldn't be conveyed. Things like this don't make me have that feeling (which I'm having a lot of trouble conveying) and this kind of art does not interest me at all, and strikes me as kind of pretentious.
His sculptures are very nice though.
[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;44381601]Strapping a cock to your dick is not, and will never be art, no matter how you try and spin it.[/QUOTE]
I once strapped a cock to my dick and filmed the results.
Guess I'm an artist now?
"art"
[QUOTE=Shenesis;44382181]So this [I]is[/I] what I saw back in September[/QUOTE]
That must have been quite the cock-eyed sight.
The name reminds me of an another artist, although I don't think he is any wiser. Or sane for that matter. :v:
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[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;44381744]It's an inception joke in the form of performance art. Who'd have thought it.[/QUOTE]
Chicken Centipede.
[QUOTE=whatthe;44381035]If only people made legitimately tasteful, politically centred art. But no we have people stringing a fucking rooster to their penis to show what? His sculpture work is a lot more interesting[/QUOTE]
The middle one looks like someone imported a model into 3dsmax and dragged around the verteces.
We had to read about "art" like this in my art history class. It was about a woman who ran outside, completely naked, with the intention of getting taken in. Doctors gave her a sedative to keep her calm when she was struggling. That's the main part of what she was doing. Basically she was trying to prove a point that the medical system is so brutal and hospitals treat people like shit or something like that.
I'm all for the idea of "Art is in the eye of the beholder" and there's not definition to "art" - but shit like that? No. I cannot see how that is art, I cannot see how this is art.
the dude's sculptures are glorious, it's weird seeing different ends of an artist's work this juxtaposed
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;44382372]We had to read about "art" like this in my art history class. It was about a woman who ran outside, completely naked, with the intention of getting taken in. Doctors gave her a sedative to keep her calm when she was struggling. That's the main part of what she was doing. Basically she was trying to prove a point that the medical system is so brutal and hospitals treat people like shit or something like that.
I'm all for the idea of "Art is in the eye of the beholder" and there's not definition to "art" - but shit like that? No. I cannot see how that is art, I cannot see how this is art.[/QUOTE]
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