• Khamenei: Israel won’t survive next 25 years
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[img_thumb]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COcjn6NWsAAxKT5.jpg:large[/img_thumb] [quote]In a quote posted to Twitter by Khamenei’s official account, Khamenei addresses Israel, saying, “You will not see next 25 years,” and adds that the Jewish state will be hounded until it is destroyed. The quote comes against a backdrop of a photograph apparently showing the Iranian leader walking on an Israeli flag painted on a sidewalk. “After negotiations, in Zionist regime they said they had no more concern about Iran for next 25 years; I’d say: Firstly, you will not see next 25 years; God willing, there will be nothing as Zionist regime by next 25 years. Secondly, until then, struggling, heroic and jihadi morale will leave no moment of serenity for Zionists,” the quote from Iran’s top leader reads in broken English. The quote was apparently taken from a speech given earlier in the day.[/quote] [quote]On Twitter, Khamenei said talks with the US were a “means of infiltration and imposition of their wills.” Quoting the founder of the Islamic Republic and his predecessor as Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Khamenei tweeted: “@IRKhomeini stated “US is the Great Satan,” some insist on depicting this Great Satan as an angel.” The Twitter handle @IRKhomeini is an Iranian government account dedicated to Khomeini’s statements.[/quote]. So far this is the only source that I have found it on, plus heard it mentioned on Fox News television (not surprisingly). The page has a other tweets copied. Wonder what this will do with the vote coming so close and seeing how the republican candidates are now holding rallies to stop the deal. SOURCE: [url]http://www.timesofisrael.com/khamenei-israel-wont-survive-next-25-years/[/url] TWITTER: [url]https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir[/url]
good thing obama doesnt want to make a deal where this guy's country can easily manufacture a nuke in secret :^)
isn't khammenei like 80 something now, this sounds like the ramblings of a dementia patient [editline]9th September 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Svinnik;48649173]good thing obama doesnt want to make a deal where this guy's country can easily manufacture a nuke in secret :^)[/QUOTE] nope, after all they'll be handing over massive amounts of enriched uranium, and supplying us with their blueprints on how far their bomb development has gotten, the iranians aren't self-regulating btw, that was a vicious rumor, those actually briefed on the treaty say otherwise
I'm wondering if the Iranian state in its current form will even be around in 25 years.
What's with the broken English?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48649228]I'm wondering if the Iranian state in its current form will even be around in 25 years.[/QUOTE] Unless they stop being detached and aggressive, they will most likely be strangled into submission with embargoes.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;48649308]Unless they stop being detached and aggressive, they will most likely be strangled into submission with embargoes.[/QUOTE] Iran also has an interesting demographic crisis going on in that birthrates have plummeted, about a third of the population is young, and many young people don't care for religion. Give it another decade or two and the theocratic government will find itself in the uncomfortable position of ruling a country full of atheists and agnostics.
Khamenei is rambling like he normally does, luckily, a good portion of the population is not like him.Lot of the youth and even in the older generations are seeing what a crock Khamenei is. Rouhani seems to be a step in the right direction, as are these nuclear talks we did. As with Israel, this twitter post will cause more anger with Iran, which hurts some of the efforts of Israelis who want peace instead of war with Iran.
And people wonder why Israel prosecutes wars with considerable prejudice. :rolleyes:
if they rely on "God Willing" then nothing will happen
[QUOTE=Antlerp;48649559]if they rely on "God Willing" then nothing will happen[/QUOTE] Considering that plenty of religious zealots do horrible things with real world consequences in the name of God (see: IS), it's not like they're throwing up their hands and asking him to take the wheel for malevolent acts. Either way it pans out, they'd like to attribute it to the divine will of [I]their[/I] god and reaffirm their belief that they are the righteous ones being pooped on by the rest of the world. They'll just do it, and say it was God's will to do it and that will be that.
So I haven't really been paying attention to what's been happening in Syria can somebody give me a brief overview? I've heard a few things here and there but I haven't really looked into it and gotten the full story.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;48649173]good thing obama doesnt want to make a deal where this guy's country can easily manufacture a nuke in secret :^)[/QUOTE] Who the fuck cares? The whole nuclear deal is a farce anyways. I mean, what really happens if Iran gets a nuke? Fuck all, that's what. They know they can't use it anyways because they will get nuked right back, just like M.A.D. intended (and to those who say M.A.D. is ineffectual, well, we are all still here in one piece today so it must do something right). Without nukes, they are basically at the mercy of Israel and the US. The whole ordeal was just to keep the balance of power unfairly slanted towards us for no good reason. While I don't like Iran, I also don't like the thought that we can bully them around as we please just because we have nuclear assurance and they do not. Iran may be shitty, but it isn't stupid. They know very well that they cannot win against Israel and the US currently and they sure as shit know they can't launch nukes against us without being glassed. Everybody seems to assume that they are completely bonkers and itching to destroy us but that is simply not the case. I would be more terrified of North Korea getting nukes, since that regime is literally insane, yet we haven't put in half the effort trying to stop them. Hell, I'm still worried about Putin having a nuclear arsenal. Or Pakistan. Hell, even us. Basically, there are plenty of countries out there that are far more likely to let the nukes fly than Iran.
[QUOTE=Potus;48649142][img_thumb]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COcjn6NWsAAxKT5.jpg:large[/img_thumb] . So far this is the only source that I have found it on, plus heard it mentioned on Fox News television (not surprisingly). The page has a other tweets copied. Wonder what this will do with the vote coming so close and seeing how the republican candidates are now holding rallies to stop the deal. SOURCE: [url]http://www.timesofisrael.com/khamenei-israel-wont-survive-next-25-years/[/url] TWITTER: [url]https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir[/url][/QUOTE] Here's another source: [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/irans-supreme-leader-us-negotiations-nuke-deal-33620886"]http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/irans-supreme-leader-us-negotiations-nuke-deal-33620886[/URL]
It's right about one thing, in 25 years it will change. For good, maybe not. I don't think jihadis will "win" though, considering its a pipe dream with the contrasting tech and the intense politics and tension there is. Best result will probably be a deal where the country is etheir split or the Palestinians will be assimilated. I know the article is about Iran, but I don't see war happening between the two countries with out initial intervention for peace keeping. Besides, hes 76, i doubt he'll live to see anything like that happen, or do something about it before passing away.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;48649173]good thing obama doesnt want to make a deal where this guy's country can easily manufacture a nuke in secret :^)[/QUOTE] yo dude. You know it takes longer then 30 days for evidence of a nuclear test. We were able to confirm north korea tested weapons without even being in the country.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;48650104]Who the fuck cares? The whole nuclear deal is a farce anyways. I mean, what really happens if Iran gets a nuke? Fuck all, that's what. They know they can't use it anyways because they will get nuked right back, just like M.A.D. intended (and to those who say M.A.D. is ineffectual, well, we are all still here in one piece today so it must do something right). Without nukes, they are basically at the mercy of Israel and the US. [/QUOTE] wtf? Surely people realise by now that Iran sponsor terrorism by giving money and weapons. The worry isn't that Iran will use a nuclear weapon against Israel. The worry is that they'll give it to someone like Hezbollah and they'll use it.
[QUOTE=download;48649527]And people wonder why Israel prosecutes wars with considerable prejudice. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Nobody is wondering this at all. Everyone knows that the reason why Israel keeps getting into conflicts is because Netanyahu is a bloodthirsty tyrant.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48650946]wtf? Surely people realise by now that Iran sponsor terrorism by giving money and weapons. The worry isn't that Iran will use a nuclear weapon against Israel. The worry is that they'll give it to someone like Hezbollah and they'll use it.[/QUOTE] nuclear weapons aren't anonymous. Experts are able to tell the type of bomb, where the uranium is from and other facts from the blast effects and fallout. That way you'll find out who built it.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;48658615]nuclear weapons aren't anonymous. Experts are able to tell the type of bomb, where the uranium is from and other facts from the blast effects and fallout. That way you'll find out who built it.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure you thought that through. That isn't a reasonable response. The idea is to stop nuclear bombs from being used, not identify who made the bomb after it was blown up.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;48658627]I'm not sure you thought that through. That isn't a reasonable response. The idea is to stop nuclear bombs from being used, not identify who made the bomb after it was blown up.[/QUOTE] the point was that hezbollah nuking israel with an iranian nuke is the same as iran straight up nuking israel, there is no plausible deniability. why would iran even hand a nuclear weapon to terrorists if they're not ready to use one themselves?
Simply because its not?
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