Emma 'Mattress Girl' Sulkowicz threatens to sue Newsweek for publishing accused's side of story
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[quote]When contacted for comment by Newsweek, anti-rape activist Emma Sulkowicz threatened to sue the paper if they published the story of the man she accused of rape.
Newsweek‘s front page story, titled “[URL="http://www.newsweek.com/2015/12/18/other-side-sexual-assault-crisis-403285.html"]The Other Side of the College Sexual Assault Crisis[/URL],” examines the surge in college students being falsely accused of rape after universities began lowering their evidentiary standards to crack down on rape. The centerpiece of the article is the story of Paul Nungesser, a Columbia University student who accused of rape by Sulkowicz.
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When asked for comment, Sulkowicz responded by threatening legal action: “Paul Nungesser’s complaint is filled with lies…. I want to warn you to be conscientious about what you publish as ‘fact’ for I may work with a lawyer to rectify any inaccuracies and misrepresentations.”[/quote]
[url]http://www.mediaite.com/print/rape-activist-threatens-to-sue-newsweek-for-publishing-accused-students-side-of-the-story/[/url]
Sounds like someone is being a salty cunt about being called out.
[QUOTE=usaokay;49297438]Okay, so according to her, it's better if everyone only knows one side of the story.[/QUOTE]
[b]Listen and believe!!![/b]
God I fucking despise that phrase.
Plus, doesn't this absolutely violate the idea of freedom of the press?
You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously[/QUOTE]
idk the person trying to sue someone for trying to present an opposite account is doing a good enough job of that herself without our help
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE]
That's a hellishly broad generalization, don't you think? Everyone deserves a voice. Even when it's absolutely wrong.
Also, that sarcasm went over my head, sorry.
man some nerds on facepunch think that someone being legally threatened for posting an article with a different perspective is wrong, better not go report that rape of mine
I get wheres shes coming from, but she has absolutely zero legal grounding to get them to not publish anything he says (same reason he has 0 legal grounding to sue her for libel).
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE]
No, they just don't want this to become some Crucible-type shit where someone's guilty as soon as they're accused.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry if I don't believe in ruining someone's entire life based ENTIRELY upon another's word.
Rape is a very shitty thing and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. That being said, do you honestly see NOTHING wrong with treating someone like a rapist with nothing else but someone's own word?
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;49297410]Sounds like someone is being a salty cunt about being called out.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/oc6xX7A.jpg]Listen and believe[/url], Zephyrs.
Listen and believe.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE]
No, actually. It's people who falsely accuse people of rape and try to bypass the justice system to get vigilante justice that are the reason rape victims are afraid to talk about it. Because they don't want to be dismissed and called a liar, which is truly unfortunate, but blindly believing every person who claims they were raped is not the answer.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE]
You're right Aldawolf why can't everyone just listen and believe.
You guys are such big goddamn babies over false rape accusations when they barely happen, get over yourselves
calling someone who could very well be traumatized by rape a "salty cunt" wow
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE]
Yeah because there are people like this woman who lie about it and make their case a nation-wide crisis. People like her make a mockery of true rape victims, those poor people who think "what if they think I'm just like Emma?" Emma has actively made it harder for rape victims to come out about it.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297595]You guys are such big goddamn babies over false rape accusations when they barely happen, get over yourselves[/QUOTE]
Is this the part where you cite some retarded statistic claiming that false rape accusations don't happen because only a tiny fraction of people are actually charged for making false allegations?
[QUOTE=LegndNikko;49297602]Yeah because there are people like this woman who lie about it, making it a nation-wide crisis. People like her make a mockery of true rape victims, those poor people who think "what if they think I'm just like Emma?" Emma has actively made it harder for rape victims to come out about it.[/QUOTE]
false rape accusations are a nation wide crisis
fuckin lmao
Like you guys are so quick to shit on any women because apparently any women who claims someone raped her is an evil whore automatically, but if a man DARED claimed to be raped by a woman you guys would suck his dick off
You accuse me of being so quick to defend the victim, what about you guys being so quick to defend the persecutor? Like really, you guys practically worship accused rapists.
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[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297595]You guys are such big goddamn babies over false rape accusations when they barely happen, get over yourselves[/QUOTE]
okay okay okay this time it might actually be a false rape claim so ill insult everyone and attempt to downplay the comments made about this one singular instance and say that it doesnt happen often so therefore discussing this case is stupid
cant forget to ignore the central point that the woman suing is absurd and reframe the discussion on terms that i define so i can more effectively belittle everyone
yeah that will work haha gonna pat myself on the back for this one
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE]
I am willing to listen to everyone's side of the story, but when there is overwhelming evidence against you (hasn't there been an actual finding on this anyway, as determined by a court?) and you go as far as to make a "rape tape" that "depicts what happened to you" and start such a shambling campaign such as hers, no, I won't take her seriously until she comes up with actual evidence that Nungesser did it.
But I guess she says he did and that means he actually did it and the world just doesn't think that this actually happened.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297610]false rape accusations are a nation wide crisis
fuckin lmao
Like you guys are so quick to shit on any women because apparently any women who claims someone raped her is an evil whore automatically, but if a man DARED claimed to be raped by a woman you guys would suck his dick off[/QUOTE]
Very broad generalization, using the "You'd cry foul if the genders were reversed!" card. But no, it goes either way. Cool strawman tho.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297610]false rape accusations are a nation wide crisis
fuckin lmao
Like you guys are so quick to shit on any women because apparently any women who claims someone raped her is an evil whore automatically, but if a man DARED claimed to be raped by a woman you guys would suck his dick off[/QUOTE]
if a man made a false rape claim about someone and attempted to sue publications that posted the woman's story i would absolutely call him out in the same way
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297610]Like you guys are so quick to shit on any women because apparently any women who claims someone raped her is an evil whore automatically, but if a man DARED claimed to be raped by a woman you guys would suck his dick off[/QUOTE]
No we're not? I honestly find that offensive that you would even say that.
[QUOTE=Saza;49297626]I am willing to listen to everyone's side of the story, but when there is overwhelming evidence against you (hasn't there been an actual finding on this anyway, as determined by a court?) and you go as far as to make a "rape tape" that "depicts what happened to you" and start such a shambling campaign such as hers, no, I won't take her seriously until she comes up with actual evidence that Nungesser did it.
But I guess she says he did and that means he actually did it and the world just doesn't think that this actually happened.[/QUOTE]
Didn't other girls come out with claims that he raped them? Whatever happened to them?
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297523]You people are why rape victims are afraid to report it to the police
[editline]11th December 2015[/editline]
and people wonder why others say "Rape victims aren't taken seriously"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297595]You guys are such big goddamn babies over false rape accusations when they barely happen, get over yourselves
calling someone who could very well be traumatized by rape a "salty cunt" wow[/QUOTE]
She has all but been convicted of fabricating the entire thing. The guy she accused has had his life utterly ruined, and last I checked was in the process of a legal shitstorm against the university for denying him any semblance of due process. People like her are why rape victims aren't taken seriously. She is literally the poster child of "oh look another lying woman crying for attention." She was caught repeatedly changing her story, and fabricating events that flew entirely against the evidence at hand.
This "Listen and believe" bullshit has undone decades worth of progress towards women's rights initiative, and if you support someone like that you are a legitimate detriment to genuine equality. So kindly get the fuck off your high horse and do some goddamn research.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49297635]No we're not? I honestly find that offensive that you would even say that.[/QUOTE]
You tend to say offensive things when you're butthurt.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49297610]false rape accusations are a nation wide crisis
fuckin lmao[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's laughable really only because it's actually a global issue. You'd be surprised what a few words can do. I wouldn't go as far as to call it a crisis ever, but false rape accusations have a very colorful history. When a few words can destroy a person's reputation, I think it's a bit excessive. Both men and women should get a fair shake in courts, really, without media/public bias.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case[/url]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Banks_(American_football)[/URL]
After all, it's not like this has never happened before.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49297640]Didn't other girls come out with claims that he raped them? Whatever happened to them?[/QUOTE]
I don't recall hearing this, but I highly doubt that he raped them especially after the things that came to light (i.e. their messages between eachother). It's possible and I'll still support them regardless if they were or not, but at least in Emma's case, I really can't at this point.
I'm going to pass further judgement until one of them is found guilty or innocent of something in a court case, but it'd be much better off if names weren't used, because his life is ruined regardless if he is cleared.
[QUOTE=Saza;49297650]I don't recall hearing this, but I highly doubt that he raped them especially after the things that came to light (i.e. their messages between eachother). It's possible and I'll still support them regardless if they were or not, but at least in Emma's case, I really can't at this point.
I'm going to pass further judgement until one of them is found guilty or innocent of something in a court case, but it'd be much better off if names weren't used, because his life is ruined regardless if he is cleared.[/QUOTE]
[quote]In a piece for Time, Sulkowicz wrote she was raped by another Columbia student the first day of her sophomore year. The rape took place in her dorm room, she said. Sulkowicz reported the rape to Columbia after she encountered two other women who said they had been victimized by the same individual. Like many survivors of sexual assault, Sulkowicz was reluctant to report her rape accusations because she didn’t want to relive the trauma of the event.[/quote]
[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/29/its-hard-to-ignore-a-woman-toting-a-mattress-everywhere-she-goes-which-is-why-emma-sulkowicz-is-still-doing-it/"]Source[/URL]
Later on, 23 students filed charges against the college because the student wasn't expelled, claiming the college was not doing it's job to protect people from rapists.
So clearly this man is a rapist, since if three women claimed it happened then something [I]had[/I] to have happened. You have to [B]listen and believe[/B], friend.
Title IX is retarded and shouldn't exist.
Colleges are not court rooms.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49297685][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/29/its-hard-to-ignore-a-woman-toting-a-mattress-everywhere-she-goes-which-is-why-emma-sulkowicz-is-still-doing-it/"]Source[/URL]
Later on, 23 students filed charges against the college because the student wasn't expelled, claiming the college was not doing it's job to protect people from rapists.
So clearly this man is a rapist, since if three women claimed it happened then something [I]had[/I] to have happened. You have to [B]listen and believe[/B], friend.[/QUOTE]
gonna go ahead and call this a problem with modern education and less a problem with false rape claims. colleges dont see students as students, but as customers. so a bunch of people get angry and say expel this person, they dont want the bad press to lose customers. so they put on a kangaroo court to try the accused and get rid of him. whether or not he or the victim get actual justice is of secondary concern, as long as the problem goes away and they dont lose any more customers or money in legal battles.
again this is the fault of bullshit college administration not caring about truth or justice anymore, not the fault of some false accusers. the college should have had the courage to conduct proper investigations with law enforcement.
it does not matter that someone will have their life ruined, or that no proper investigation took place. all that matters is keeping and making as much money as possible. mattress girl is a symptom, not the problem.
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