Young Earth Creationist finds 60 million year old fossil under his house, remains unconvinced - Polidicks

[t]https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2015/05/fossilized-fish.jpg&w=1484[/t] [quote]Canadian Edgar Nernberg isn't into the whole evolution thing. In fact, he's on the board of directors of Big Valley’s Creation Science Museum, a place meant to rival local scientific institutions. Adhering to the most extreme form of religious creationism, the exhibits "prove" that the Earth is only around 6,000 years old, and that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. Unfortunately, Nernberg just dug up a 60-million-year-old fish. Here's the thing: He just doesn't believe they're that old. And he's quite the fossil lover. “No, it hasn’t changed my mind. We all have the same evidence, and it’s just a matter of how you interpret it,” Nernberg told the Calgary Sun. “There’s no dates stamped on these things."[/quote] [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/05/28/whoops-a-creationist-museum-supporter-stumbled-upon-a-major-fossil-find/[/url] This guy runs a museum that teaches kids that the Earth is 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs/humans walked the Earth together 4,000 years before Jesus Christ was around.

At least he has some backbone. Still an idiot.

[QUOTE=Galen;47834437]At least he has some backbone. [/QUOTE] Kinda like that 60 million year old fish he dug up

[quote]“There’s no dates stamped on these things."[/quote] And where is it stamped the humans lived with dinosaurs, idiot

This sounds like an Onion article

That museum is in the middle of bum fuck nowhere in Alberta. Which should suprise nobody.

[img]https://aaronleitch.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/angel_skeleton.png[/img] The opposite

I'm just glad he loves fossils and didn't destroy it.

I wonder how he factors in that the fish was old enough to be embedded in fucking rock under his house if it was only 6,000 years old. At that point it doesn't even relate to biology or evolution. Its basic geology

[QUOTE=Kyle902;47834852]I wonder how he factors in that the fish was old enough to be embedded in fucking rock under his house if it was only 6,000 years old. At that point it doesn't even relate to biology or evolution. Its basic geology[/QUOTE] Young Earth Creationists probably do not believe in any system of geology which accounts for time scales greater than 6,000 years.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;47834852]I wonder how he factors in that the fish was old enough to be embedded in fucking rock under his house if it was only 6,000 years old. At that point it doesn't even relate to biology or evolution. Its basic geology[/QUOTE] It was placed there to test his faith.

the devil put it there to test his faith

What is creationists argument against fosil dating? Why won't belive anything is older than 6000 years?

[QUOTE=MILKE;47835545]What is creationists argument against fosil dating? Why won't belive anything is older than 6000 years?[/QUOTE] having argued with one myself: "their method of carbon dating is terribly inconsistent! the amount of carbon in our atmosphere changes, how can scientists know exactly how much carbon was in the atmosphere millions of years ago!"

If god really exists, he's trying to tell you something here bud.

[QUOTE=bord2tears;47834887]It was placed there to test his faith.[/QUOTE] This is an actual excuse used by these people I'm pretty sure God doesn't exist, but if he did, I really doubt he gives two shits about one group of people on one rock out of the entire universe. And to boot, if you read all the stories and shit, he's a massive dickhead, anyway I mean come on, here you make two people. Absent of Sin. No concept of deception, lying. Then another creature you created who obviously does grasp these concepts, cons this chick who doesn't know any better, thanks to you, into eating the forbidden fruit, walla walla bing bang. You punish man kind. Thanks, man

[QUOTE=NixNax123;47835621]having argued with one myself: "their method of carbon dating is terribly inconsistent! the amount of carbon in our atmosphere changes, how can scientists know exactly how much carbon was in the atmosphere millions of years ago!"[/QUOTE] tbf the majority of fossil dating isn't actually done with carbon dating, as carbon dating only works for items 50,000 years old and under. radiometric dating can be used however it's an extremely specific process that can work for things older than 50 million years old, however that specificity limits it to certain rock types that only account for a minority of fossils. truth be told the overwhelming majority of fossil dating is actually done by guessing the age of the rock that a fossil lies in by looking at sedimentary records. as such it's pretty tough to estimate the precise age of a fossil, it's basically just "this came before this". there's ways but it's nowhere near as easy as people think

[QUOTE=Zeke129;47834475]And where is it stamped the humans lived with dinosaurs, idiot[/QUOTE] the bible that god wrote IDIOT I watched him write it bazinga

[QUOTE=NixNax123;47835621]having argued with one myself: "their method of carbon dating is terribly inconsistent! the amount of carbon in our atmosphere changes, how can scientists know exactly how much carbon was in the atmosphere millions of years ago!"[/QUOTE] My talks with such people usually go like: "This all had to come from somewhere, God created it all." "So, um, who or what created God?" "God always was, no one created God." "The universe always was, no one created it." "But everything HAS to come from somewhere!" and the circle is complete

[QUOTE=MILKE;47835545]What is creationists argument against fosil dating? Why won't belive anything is older than 6000 years?[/QUOTE] Genealogy. If you've ever read through the Old Testament, there's a genealogy record in there that supposedly traces the lineage of the kings of Israel from Adam up through David. There are ages, as well, of some of the people on that list. Two major problems with it: The Hebrews used a lunar calendar, so the ages are overrepresented because nobody's ever bothered to convert them properly (properly converted, it's something like 1000 years before Moses, which would exclude a lot of known archaeological dates in Mesopotamia), and more glaringly obvious, it makes a lot of assumptions about timescales in a creation story that doesn't actually have a proper timescale attributed to it until the end. So they just assume Adam was created at the moment of creation, and then they assume that the genealogy from Adam onward is unbroken all the way through Christ. Here's something funny about that: Not even modern Jews believe in the record of Kings, or the Genesis story. It's pretty much exclusively Young Earth Creationists these days.

My dad was a Pastor and a Theologist for the University of Montréal and he made fun of those people anytime he could. To him the bible was meant only to teach moral lessons, not being used as a fucking history book.

[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;47836168]My dad was a Pastor and a Theologist for the University of Montréal and he made fun of those people anytime he could. To him the bible was meant only to teach moral lessons, not being used as a fucking history book.[/QUOTE] I don't know, it does a decent job chronicling certain aspects of Jewish culture and history. That's kind of interesting and historical. I mean, once you get past the first few books, you can learn a lot about Jewish customs and traditions throughout history.

[QUOTE=J!NX;47836026]the bible that god wrote IDIOT I watched him write it bazinga[/QUOTE] And on the eighth day the LORD placed saddles on the dinosaurs and told the cavemen, "go forth and ride the T-Rexes and shit it will be really awesome" and the cavemen rode the T-Rexes and shit and it was good.

[QUOTE=bord2tears;47834887]It was placed there to test his faith.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;E-8-n2_rW6o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-8-n2_rW6o[/video]

Ah, cognitive dissonance... what a powerful, powerful thing.

I think of people like this every time i see a "omg atheists are soo *close minded*" rant/post. Imagine personally finding genuine proof you are wrong, and then deciding you are just going to keep being wrong.

I lost my shit at when he said 'there's no dates stamped on these things.' You're free to believe in anything you like. Other people are free to tell you that your beliefs need reworking.

[QUOTE=kweh;47834510][img]https://aaronleitch.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/angel_skeleton.png[/img] The opposite[/QUOTE] this looks like an interesting simpsons episode

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;47837501]this looks like an interesting simpsons episode[/QUOTE] You are correct [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_Skeptic[/url]

[QUOTE=woolio1;47836185]I don't know, it does a decent job chronicling certain aspects of Jewish culture and history. That's kind of interesting and historical. I mean, once you get past the first few books, you can learn a lot about Jewish customs and traditions throughout history.[/QUOTE] They're books containing history but they're still not "History Books".