17 year old boy slaps 5 year old girl on schoolbus; Superintendent: "This behavior wasn't abnormal" - Polidicks

[quote]Parents of a 5 year-old girl are furious. They say security video, taken on a Bamberg school bus, shows her being hit. Now, the 17-year-old accused of hitting her has a warrant out for his arrest. Jasmine's parents want to know why the high school student was allowed to ride the bus in the first place. Terry Peters says he immediately noticed the mark on his little girl's face when he picked her up from after school care on Thursday. "I'm very upset! I'm mad," Peters said. He says the daycare workers told him 17 year old Tavon Walters, a high school student, hit his daughter on the bus ride from the schools to the after school program. "He had reached over that seat and telling another girl if you don't hit her then I'm going to hit her for you," the father said. The bus security video shows Walters grabbing another student's hand and using it to hit Jasmine on the right side of her face. The picture of the mark on Jasmine's face is on the left side which is why school officials and police are unclear if the teen is responsible for the actual mark in the picture. "The behavior on the bus was not abnormal," Phyllis Schwarting said. The Bamberg District One Superintendent says it's common for all ages of students to share a bus in rural districts. However, Peter's attorney wants to know why Walters was even allowed to ride the bus. According to police, he's on probation and has a history of getting into trouble at school. "We are talking about a kid who is 17 years old much larger than this five year old child history of violence and he is put on the bus with her in close proximity," Charlie Williams said.[/quote] [quote]Police confirmed Wednesday that Tavon Walters, 17, slapped a 5-year-old girl during a school bus ride. Bamberg police said Wednesday someone flipped a picture of 5-year-old Jazmyn Peters. They believe Walters is responsible for the mark on her face.[/quote] [quote]Liz Owens: "This kid has been in trouble at school before no secret, they're saying he's on probation, why is it that someone who has a history like that allowed to ride the bus, especially with young students?" Phyllis Schwarting: "Well, he had not had any bus incidents for one." Liz Owens: "So it doesn't really matter how bad of trouble you get in at school? You could hit a kid at school or have a history of being violent at school as long, as that didn't happen on the bus, he's not going to lose his bus privileges?" Phyllis Schwarting: "Well that's sort of taking things out of context."[/quote] [url]http://www.wrdw.com/content/news/17-year-to-be-charged-with-bus-assault-on-5-year-old--391655191.html[/url] [url]http://fox8.com/2016/09/01/school-bus-video-shows-17-year-old-boy-slap-5-year-old-girl/[/url] [url]http://abc13.com/news/family-considers-lawsuit-after-alleged-bus-assault-on-5-year-old/1494127/[/url] [url]http://ktla.com/2016/09/01/school-bus-video-shows-17-year-old-boy-slap-5-year-old-girl/[/url]

Kind of a misleading title? It was inferred that the part that wasn't abnormal was that a senior could travel with young students, which is kind of true. Before I got my driver's license, I had to take the bus which was shared with 4th graders and such. Still, fuck that teenager, what a dickwad.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;50992189]Kind off a misleading title? It was inferred that the part that wasn't abnormal was that a senior could travel with young students, which is kind of true. Before I got my driver's license I had to take the bus which was shared with 4th graders and such. Still, fuck the kid.[/QUOTE] I think the first statement and the second statement are unrelated, since I wouldn't really call "being able to ride a bus" a behavior well he shouldn't be able to ride a bus with kids in the first place because he's on probation but yeah

[QUOTE=Perrine;50992192]I think the first statement and the second statement are unrelated, since I wouldn't really call "being able to ride a bus" a behavior well he shouldn't be able to ride a bus with kids in the first place because he's on probation but yeah[/QUOTE] Oh yeah you are right. [quote]"The behavior on the bus was not abnormal'[/quote] How the fuck is slapping a little girl not abnormal? Jesus, American schools are utter shit. I legitimately think you'd have a fairer academic period in a school in Congo than in the U.S with all this zero tolerance bullshit and ignorance towards bullying.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;50992207]Oh yeah you are right. How the fuck is slapping a little girl not abnormal? Jesus, American schools are utter shit. I legitimately think you'd have a fairer academic period in a school in Congo than in the U.S with all this zero tolerance bullshit and ignorance towards bullying.[/QUOTE] Well yeah if you only hear about the shit schools in the US which you probably do, the majority of the schools from my experience are pretty standard.

That principle needs to be fired, I'd be up in arms if some punk three times her age slapped my little sister on the bus.

[QUOTE=duckmaster;50992395]Well yeah if you only hear about the shit schools in the US which you probably do, the majority of the schools from my experience are pretty standard.[/QUOTE] I attended an american school 10 years ago. Ocotillo Elementary in Antelope Valley, CA. Got into a fight with some mexican dipshit who threw a hard pebble at my face and made me bleed, got suspended while he just got after-school detention. American schools have shitty rep for a very good reason.

[QUOTE=duckmaster;50992395]Well yeah if you only hear about the shit schools in the US which you probably do, the majority of the schools from my experience are pretty standard.[/QUOTE] Doesn't mean much when the standard is a total lack of care about the well-being of students. I went to what's considered pretty much one of the top schools in my region, and I'm not about to pretend that the administrative staff gave half a rat's ass about the students. Being an office aide really lets you realize how little they care about you when 90% of the time they spend talking to you is them trying to be snarky cunts.

[QUOTE=duckmaster;50992395]Well yeah if you only hear about the shit schools in the US which you probably do, the majority of the schools from my experience are pretty standard.[/QUOTE] I'm from a shitty third world country and even I can say that you don't hear about ridiculous shit like that happening here in schools.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;50992207]Oh yeah you are right. How the fuck is slapping a little girl not abnormal? Jesus, American schools are utter shit. I legitimately think you'd have a fairer academic period in a school in Congo than in the U.S with all this zero tolerance bullshit and ignorance towards bullying.[/QUOTE] I don't want to blindly defend the US but just because it happened here doesn't mean it's rampant here...

Why is this a problem? kids can get rowdy sometimes... the welt on the kids cheek is also not from the slap, the video shows its barely a slap either. the 17 year old on the bus with 5 year olds, also why is this a problem? some parents need to understand 17 year olds are also allowed to be in society and segregation is never good. helicopter parents imo, its normal the parent wants an explanation and probably an apology but banning all 17 year olds from a bus? geeze

[QUOTE=fredstin22;50994155]That's why[/QUOTE] I guess they should just move kids like that to the back of the bus in the USA, or perhaps give him a skate board and a rope to hold on to...

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;50992207]Oh yeah you are right. How the fuck is slapping a little girl not abnormal? Jesus, American schools are utter shit. I legitimately think you'd have a fairer academic period in a school in Congo than in the U.S with all this zero tolerance bullshit and ignorance towards bullying.[/QUOTE] I think he means that his behavior on the bus is not abnormal as he gets in trouble a lot on the bus.

I've been there. Back when I was a 1st grader there was this 7th grade asshole who was doing nothing but punching other 1st graders when on breaks. School fixed that by giving highschoolers their own breaks separated from other elementary students. I hope that asshole is in pain right now. Same as this guy. I wonder what went through his fucking head.

[QUOTE=Tumama;50994735]I've been there. Back when I was a 1st grader there was this 7th grade asshole who was doing nothing but punching other 1st graders when on breaks. School fixed that by giving highschoolers their own breaks separated from other elementary students. I hope that asshole is in pain right now. Same as this guy. I wonder what went through his fucking head.[/QUOTE] His parents divorcing while not hearing his opinion on the matter or taking his feelings into account, or him being unable to place his hormone changes and being unable to have the guidance of a parental male figure to take example from or get life advice, not understanding how he should place himself in the world or any other reason why a pubescent kid might do things that seem cruel in a desperate grasp for control in a life that is totally out of their control. Or he could just be a cruel bully. who knows...

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50994776]His parents divorcing while not hearing his opinion on the matter or taking his feelings into account, or him being unable to place his hormone changes and being unable to have the guidance of a parental male figure to take example from or get life advice, not understanding how he should place himself in the world or any other reason why a pubescent kid might do things that seem cruel in a desperate grasp for control in a life that is totally out of their control. Or he could just be a cruel bully. who knows...[/QUOTE] Ok... So in order to take control of his life, he decided to take control of a girl to slap some other girl. I'd wait for a psychological report before making me having any kind of very small sympathy for this guy, since i can't find that on the sources on the OP.

[QUOTE=Tumama;50994817]Ok... So in order to take control of his life, he decided to take control of a girl to slap some other girl. I'd wait for a psychological report before making me having any kind of very small sympathy for this guy, since i can't find that on the sources on the OP.[/QUOTE] 17 y/olds totally have control over their emotions You can at all high and mighty from a third person point of view, but put yourself in his shoes. Plus we don't know the entire situation apparently?

so correct me if im wrong, but different school districts get different funding in the US, right? so therefor, not everyone gets a equal learning experience, right?

[QUOTE=Map in a box;50995186]17 y/olds totally have control over their emotions You can at all high and mighty from a third person point of view, but put yourself in his shoes. Plus we don't know the entire situation apparently?[/QUOTE] I've been on the receiving end of this situation, so maybe I'm biased, but I don't think it's an excuse for this behavior. When I was on HS only 3 of us had normal, functional families, the other 11 of us either had parents with bad divorces, or totally absent/didn't cared for them, and believe me they didn't go around slapping younger kids. Again, I want to know the background as much as you do, just don't expect me to feel bad for him yet. I'll reserve my concerns for the little girl.

I'd say that he shouldn't have been on the bus if he's literally on probation and has a long history of violence, but other than that I agree with the superintendent. Kids get into fights- fuck even adults get into fights over some of the most trivial shit imaginable. I've never been on a bus throughout my standard education where there was such a large age-gap between passengers, and I'd wager that this is the exact reason why.

[QUOTE=Tumama;50995290]I've been on the receiving end of this situation, so maybe I'm biased, but I don't think it's an excuse for this behavior. When I was on HS only 3 of us had normal, functional families, the other 11 of us either had parents with bad divorces, or totally absent/didn't cared for them, and believe me they didn't go around slapping younger kids. Again, I want to know the background as much as you do, just don't expect me to feel bad for him yet. I'll reserve my concerns for the little girl.[/QUOTE] I think the point is that if you try and look at the situation empathetically, he did a pretty awful thing but a lot of the time you can understand what led to that situation and it's quite often far more complicated than the narrative of "EVIL CRIMINAL ATTACKS CHILD". The perspective of stories has a huge impact on how people perceive the characters and it's really easy to forget to try and understand the (in this case clear) villain. [editline]4th September 2016[/editline] I'm guessing he was allowed on because he'd have no other way of getting education if he didn't and if you deny people access to education because of crime it inevitably leads to more problems.

If you wish for my honest opinion, the victim and perpetrator both have my sympathy. I hope they both can receive the help they need. [editline]4th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Tumama;50995290]I've been on the receiving end of this situation, so maybe I'm biased, but I don't think it's an excuse for this behavior. When I was on HS only 3 of us had normal, functional families, the other 11 of us either had parents with bad divorces, or totally absent/didn't cared for them, and believe me they didn't go around slapping younger kids. Again, I want to know the background as much as you do, just don't expect me to feel bad for him yet. I'll reserve my concerns for the little girl.[/QUOTE] Some people handle situations differently than others. Some people become so unstable from situations like that that they end up hurting people and can't control their anger, while others are able to.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;50992434]I attended an american school 10 years ago. Ocotillo Elementary in Antelope Valley, CA. Got into a fight with some mexican dipshit who threw a hard pebble at my face and made me bleed, got suspended while he just got after-school detention. American schools have shitty rep for a very good reason.[/QUOTE] Even Canadian schools can be pretty shitty. I had a bunch of kids who would terrorize me every day on the bus (which I told the driver about and she said I should "stop sticking my neck out so much") one day they were throwing shit at me so I threw one back and them and the driver reported me to the admins and got me kicked off the bus.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50997423]If you wish for my honest opinion, the victim and perpetrator both have my sympathy. I hope they both can receive the help they need.[/QUOTE] Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;50998878]Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] He is struck with empathy. God forbid we start treating people who do bad things like human beings.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;50992207]Oh yeah you are right. How the fuck is slapping a little girl not abnormal? Jesus, American schools are utter shit. I legitimately think you'd have a fairer academic period in a school in Congo than in the U.S with all this zero tolerance bullshit and ignorance towards bullying.[/QUOTE] Kids hit kids all the time. When I was 12 I threw a couple of solid punches at a 7 year old because he wouldn't shut up and kept annoying me.

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;50998878]Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] You're right, bullies are just mean... Because

[QUOTE=Pops;50999796]Kids hit kids all the time. When I was 12 I threw a couple of solid punches at a 7 year old because he wouldn't shut up and kept annoying me.[/QUOTE] When I was in the 7th grade I hit a 4th grader who threw a snack pack at me

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;50998878]Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?[/QUOTE] I don't condone his actions. I just feel empathy for him, because he's a human being. It makes me sad to see that people these days are almost incapable of feeling empathy towards wrongdoers.