• Copenhagen bars harassed by locals trying to enforce Sharia law
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[quote=RT]A group of bar owners from one of Copenhagen’s suburbs, who have been endlessly harassed by Muslim youth activists trying to impose a so-called “Shariah zone”, have taken their case to a government minister, urging her to protect their businesses and the locals. Pub owners in the Nørrebro suburb of Copenhagen have for months tried to get the Copenhagen Police to take action against a group of youths from an immigrant background, who have been threatening, extorting, and vandalizing bars in broad daylight. The concept of Sharia zones was introduced by a group called ‘Call to Islam’ some five years ago. Using volunteers, pockets of activists embark on daily patrols of the neighborhood and approach those who drink, gamble, or engage in other activities seen by the group as running contrary to Islamic beliefs. “Recently some young men came into the bar and shouted that all guests should leave,” Heidi Dyrnesli from Cafe Heimdal told Radio24syv. “They shouted so that the site belongs to them and that Nørrebro is Sharia zone, so there is no drinking alcohol.” The gangs also use firecrackers and stones to smash windows and assault premises, while the police seem to unable to stop such behavior from youths. Mucki Bar owner, Birgitte Fischer, claims that the gang asked them for at least 60,000 DKK ($9,200) as so-called "protection money."[/quote] [URL="https://www.rt.com/news/342718-copenhagen-bars-sharia-patrols/"]Source[/URL] Starpluck closed the last thread because of the source, but I'm pretty sure RT is allowed here.
... bad idea kids, The EU migration is causing Nationalism to rise, and an anti-muslim hysteria. EDIT: What I ment to say is, YOUR. NOT. HELPING!
[url]http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2016-05-11-vaertshuse-udsat-for-haervaerk-og-trusler-de-siger-at-noerrebro-hoerer-under-sharia[/url] Here's a Danish source. What a bunch of dickheads
these people ruin and skew the view on the otherwise completely ordinary people that have fled from other countries to here; it's fucking scandalous that the police isn't making an example of them, and frankly i know that if action isn't taken by the police, the furious alcoholic regulars will.
Why are police across Europe so fucking afraid of laying a hand on immigrants? What worries me is that if the police don't step up to their responsibility, the locals probably will, and they aren't exactly known for their tactfulness and finesse. So there's going to be a lot of blood.
I say we donate a baseball bat to each bar owner. I'm sure it's hard to find them across the pond.
"Locals"
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;50319085][B]Why are police across Europe so fucking afraid of laying a hand on immigrants?[/B] What worries me is that if the police don't step up to their responsibility, the locals probably will, and they aren't exactly known for their tactfulness and finesse. So there's going to be a lot of blood.[/QUOTE] Because they'll be called Islamophobic if they do anything.
Toss these cunts back into the sandpit they came from.
I must admit that I wonder why this is in international news, though. Sure, it should be dealt with, but this is pretty politicized. I mean, today it was also revealed that a camp boss has threatened asylum seekers in the camp if they didn't do as he said - that's actually an issue where the minister of integration (Inger Støjberg) could benefit from going there and talk to people; maybe it's an issue that is general to asylum camps because of too little oversight? Not to say that this isn't an issue, but I think it's way more about money than sharia. It has been going on for quite a few years, this time there's just an extra sharia spin on it. Of course it should be stopped, though, but this is a bunch of gangs that want protection money from their turf, I don't think the sharia part is all that important to them. This is gang related activity and it should be treated as such.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50319095]Because they'll be called Islamophobic if they do anything.[/QUOTE] Pretty much this. Far too many people don't believe things like this are happening so when they see it on the news they immediately assume it was Islamophobia on the part of civilians and police instead of crimes being committed under the guise of Islam.
[QUOTE=EskillV2;50319105]Toss these cunts back into the sandpit they came from.[/QUOTE] Chances are they were born in Denmark.
you should treat moving into a country like moving in with your parents- you're under their fucking roof, abide their fucking rules.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50319106]I must admit that I wonder why this is in international news, though. Sure, it should be dealt with, but this is pretty politicized. I mean, today it was also revealed that a camp boss has threatened asylum seekers in the camp if they didn't do as he said - that's actually an issue where the minister of integration (Inger Støjberg) could benefit from going there and talk to people; maybe it's an issue that is general to asylum camps because of too little oversight? Not to say that this isn't an issue, but I think it's way more about money than sharia. It has been going on for quite a few years, this time there's just an extra sharia spin on it. Of course it should be stopped, though, [B]but this is a bunch of gangs that want protection money from their turf, I don't think the sharia part is all that important to them. This is gang related activity and it should be treated as such.[/B][/QUOTE] Where are you conjuring this from? Why aren't regular Danes doing this?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50319110]Chances are they were born in Denmark.[/QUOTE] So even though they are born on EU soil they are incapable of integrating with modern society? Hmmm, I don't know what's worse.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50319095]Because they'll be called Islamophobic if they do anything.[/QUOTE] Ah noez, they get called pigs, idiots, blue cunts, blue angels, thiefs, corrupt motherfuckers, bastards (ACAB) etc... little islamophobic words inside that mix won't add much.
[QUOTE=myng;50319120]you should treat moving into a country like moving in with your parents- you're under their fucking roof, abide their fucking rules.[/QUOTE] If only it were that simple for some people. This is an unfortunate case of a few bad apples ruining the bunch.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50319122]Where are you conjuring this from? Why aren't regular Danes doing this?[/QUOTE] Its not entirely unthinkable that 'regular Danes' might extort and threaten businesses. We still have problems with Biker-gang cultures around here. And those guys are going to severely fuck up these immigrant kids if it ever comes down to a turf war, so hopefully this shit gets straightened out before then.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50319122]Where are you conjuring this from? Why aren't regular Danes doing this?[/QUOTE] Are you suggesting they're doing this because they're muslims or what? This has been going on for at least 5-6 years in the same area, the same bars etc., and this is the first I've heard of a supposed sharia motivation. Seems like the money aspect is more important to them.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50319110]Chances are they were born in Denmark.[/QUOTE] In France, most of the people doing this kind of shit (demanding change of local businesses or institutions to fit [I]their[/I] world views and no one else's) aren't immigrants, they've been French citizens for several generations. They're just close-minded retards who want religious favoritism, and as far as France is concerned, it's far from exclusive to Islam. There's more news of local Christian groups protesting against gay marriage or trying to closed sex shops (my favorite being the protests of christian men trying to ban abortion) than news of local Muslim groups protesting against Christmas decorations because it's oppressive to them, but both happen on a semi regular basis.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;50319126]So even though they are born on EU soil they are incapable of integrating with modern society? Hmmm, I don't know what's worse.[/QUOTE] [img]http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/muslim-poll-suicide-bombing.jpg[/img] This was a poll done on "younger" Muslims, but its safe to say that most of these people were born in the countries where they were polled. These problems don't necessarily get better with subsequent generations of immigrants. There is a huge integration problem with Muslims that needs to be solved.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;50319126]So even though they are born on EU soil they are incapable of integrating with modern society? Hmmm, I don't know what's worse.[/QUOTE] I don't think I said integration is all smooth sailing, just that there's no sandpit to send them back to. You can actually debate this without ending up sounding all racist.
This ,,islamophobia'' meme is actually the worst. Anyone who says it unironically has p much been indoctrinated by The Muslim Brotherhood.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50319155][img]http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/muslim-poll-suicide-bombing.jpg[/img] This was a poll done on "younger" Muslims, but its safe to say that most of these people were born in the countries where they were polled. These problems don't necessarily get better with subsequent generations of immigrants. There is a huge integration problem with Muslims that needs to be solved.[/QUOTE] Stopping religious schools that allow bubbles to form from a young age might be a good start.
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;50319159]This ,,islamophobia'' meme is actually the worst. Anyone who says it unironically has p much been indoctrinated by The Muslim Brotherhood.[/QUOTE] There's a kernel of truth in it, but I do think you have a point. Some folks would rather claim persecution then admit they're being shitty people and got called out on it. Doesn't matter if you're black, white, gay, transgender, or identify as a wolfkin, if you're an asshole, someone will call you out on it. It has nothing to do with who you are, you're just being an asshole.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50319149]Are you suggesting they're doing this because they're muslims or what? This has been going on for at least 5-6 years in the same area, the same bars etc., and this is the first I've heard of a supposed sharia motivation. Seems like the money aspect is more important to them.[/QUOTE] Yes. Hence the whole "this is a non-drinking area" part. [editline]14th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Dzonintz;50319159]This ,,islamophobia'' meme is actually the worst. Anyone who says it unironically has p much been indoctrinated by The Muslim Brotherhood.[/QUOTE] The Muslim Brotherhood invented the word deliberately to shield criticism of Islam. Their strategy has worked flawlessly so far. We need to throw away the word "Islamophobia" and start using "anti-Muslim bigotry". There is nothing wrong with hating/fearing Islam. But bigotry needs to be called out.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;50319170]Yes. Hence the whole "this is a non-drinking area" part.[/QUOTE] I understand the link with Sharia but you don't need that to be a holier-than-thou asswipe.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50319110]Chances are they were born in Denmark.[/QUOTE] [quote]from an immigrant background[/quote] Read the damn article.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;50319190]I understand the link with Sharia but you don't need that to be a holier-than-thou asswipe.[/QUOTE] Idk where you came from with that flame, but it doesn't even make any sense. Where was I holier-than-thou?
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50319110]Chances are they were born in Denmark.[/QUOTE] Get real already, even if they were born in Denmark that means fuck all if they grew up and stuck to non-European surroundings and if they refuse to assimilate and accept our culture's tenets.
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