• Army charges 3 more in Afghan civilian killings
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[quote]Three additional U.S. soldiers based in Washington state are facing murder charges in the deaths of three Afghan civilians between January and May and have been placed in pre-trial confinement, the Army announced Wednesday. Pfc. Andrew Holmes, 19, from Boise, Idaho, and Spc. Adam Winfield, 21, from Cape Coral, Florida, each face one count of murder under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Holmes is accused of killing Afghan civilian Gul Mudin in January with a grenade and rifle. Winfield is accused of killing civilian Mullah Adahdad in May in a similar manner. Spc. Michael Wagnon, 29, from Las Vegas, Nevada, faces one count of murder under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, as well as impeding a criminal investigation. According to the charges, Wagnon is accused of shooting to death Marach Agha in February. The Army also alleges Wagnon obtained a computer hard drive that contained evidence of the murders and asked another soldier to erase the information. All three men are stationed at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, near Seattle. Earlier this month, Spc. Jeremy Morlock, 22, from Wasilla, Alaska, and Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs, 25, from Billings, Montana, each were charged with three counts of murder and one count of assault. Lt. Col. Tamara Parker, an Army spokeswoman, said the three counts of murder against Morlock and Gibbs involve the same victims as the cases against Holmes, Wagnon and Winfield. The alleged killings took place at or near Forward Operating Base Ramrod in southern Afghanistan's volatile Kandahar province, according to the charges. Morlock is in pre-trial confinement at his Seattle base, while Gibbs was charged in Kuwait and he is expected to return to the installation within days, the Army said. All five soldiers are assigned to B Company, 2nd Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment, 5th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division. The soldiers deployed with their unit to Afghanistan in July 2009, the Army said. The Army says the investigation into the deaths is ongoing.[/quote] [B]Source:[/B] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/06/16/afghanistan.soldiers.charges/index.html?hpt=T2[/url] god bless america :patriot:
*Salutes* so what about all those civilian suicide bombers who kill our troops? never see their names in the news.
[QUOTE=3picFail;22673907]*Salutes* so what about all those civilian suicide bombers who kill our troops? never see their names in the news.[/QUOTE] Pretty hard to ask a guy who's pasted over 10 meters of walls and dirt what his name is.
Osama Bin Laden? or whoever they were searching for...
[QUOTE=3picFail;22673907]*Salutes* so what about all those civilian suicide bombers who kill our troops? never see their names in the news.[/QUOTE] Kind of hard to identify someone who's only remaining body-part is his [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xq1_QVuOUV4/SWUQKJqFEuI/AAAAAAAADZs/y__xiGcK0w8/s400/FOOT.jpg[/img]
Was it an accident? Because if it was they shouldn't be charged.
[QUOTE=Dr Pepper;22674269]Was it an accident? Because if it was they shouldn't be charged.[/QUOTE] uh, yeah they should.
[QUOTE=JDK721;22674339]uh, yeah they should.[/QUOTE] For murder? If it was accidental? In a war zone? They should be charged for man slaughter at a push. Personally I wouldn't see them charged if it was blatantly an accident and a first offense.
[QUOTE=JDK721;22674339]uh, yeah they should.[/QUOTE] By definition if it was a accident it was not murder.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;22674455]By definition if it was a accident it was not murder.[/QUOTE] yeah it is learn what manslaughter, negligent homicide, etc. are
[QUOTE=Winslow;22674238]Kind of hard to identify someone who's only remaining body-part is his [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xq1_QVuOUV4/SWUQKJqFEuI/AAAAAAAADZs/y__xiGcK0w8/s400/FOOT.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] ahaha true [editline]10:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JDK721;22674339]uh, yeah they should.[/QUOTE] no, because for example, a majority of the firefights they have are in populated areas, so its very likely for a civilian to be hurt, although the soldiers are obviously not supposed to hit them.
People should be arrested for joining the military and prolonging this stupid war.
most join the war for money, not to prolong the war. also, lack of troops wouldn't stop a war, but a president to pulls out will.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;22675192]People should be arrested for joining the military and prolonging this stupid war.[/QUOTE] yeah it's definitely not the fault of the higher ups who are giving the orders. i really hope you aren't seriously suggesting people to get arrested.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;22675192]People should be arrested for joining the military and prolonging this stupid war.[/QUOTE] Whatever you say, private.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;22675222]yeah it's definitely not the fault of the higher ups who are giving the orders. i really hope you aren't seriously suggesting people to get arrested.[/QUOTE] All people have to do is not join army. The higher ups won't have anyone to boss around if nobody joins. The war would be over because the higher ups aren't going to get their hands dirty. Yeah, I wasn't entirely serious about arresting them, but I think they're stupid.
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