Australia's domestic spying agency seriously considering raising the terror threat level to high - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Australia's terror threat levels Low: terrorist attack is not expected Medium: terrorist attack could occur [B]High: terrorist attack is likely[/B] Extreme: terror attack is imminent or has occurred [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The head of Australia's domestic spy agency, David Irvine, says the country's official terror threat level could be upgraded in the next few days. ASIO's director-general has told the ABC's 7.30 that the threat had been building in Australia over the past year and he had an "elevated level of concern". The threat has been at medium since 2003, which means an attack is possible and could occur. If it is raised to high, it means an attack is likely. Mr Irvine, who retires from the job at the end of the week, said he was "actively considering" increasing the terror threat level. "I would say that at the moment it is at a very elevated level of medium," he said. "I'm certainly contemplating very seriously the notion of lifting it higher because of the numbers of people we are now having to be concerned about in Australia, because of the influence of Syria and Iraq on young Australians both in terms of going to those places to fight, but also in terms of what they are doing here in Australia with a potential intent to attack." Mr Irvine said there were more than 20 people in Australia who had fought in Iraq and Syria and posed a threat to national security, however, he declined to confirm whether all those thought to be engaging in or supporting jihad overseas were under active surveillance. "You can rest assured that the Australian authorities know what they're looking at and are taking very appropriate steps to monitor the situation and you can also be assured that if we see something developing or in fact evidence of a crime already having been committed then we're going to move quickly to nip that in the bud," he said. "The other thing I can say is certainly in recent months we've had quite heightened operational activity because of the numbers of people involved and so on and the Government has recently given us additional resources to try to cope with that increased problem." Mr Irvine said that although Australia had been involved in arming the outgunned Kurdish opponents of Islamic State (IS) in Iraq, it was unlikely that it would contribute to an elevated terror threat. "That's a sort of a popular line that you hear, but the fact is that Australia has been named as a terrorist target in Al Qaeda publications and the like for a number of years," he said. "And current Al Qaeda, Jabhat al-Nusra, propaganda and talk is of continuing to conduct terrorist attacks in the West including in Australia. So we do have to be concerned."[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-09/asio-seriously-considering-raising-australia27s-terror-threat-/5731800[/url] You have to remember Australia has not had a serious terrorist attack before or after 9/11

This doesn't surprise me with ISIS being at the table now. They might know something we don't..

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;45931567]You have to remember Australia has not had a serious terrorist attack before or after 9/11[/QUOTE] How much has Australia actually done to piss extremists off?

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;45931601]How much has Australia actually done to piss extremists off?[/QUOTE] That's not really relevant in deciding whether or not there's a terrorist threat.

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;45931601]How much has Australia actually done to piss extremists off?[/QUOTE] You exist. That's all they need to be pissed off.

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;45931601]How much has Australia actually done to piss extremists off?[/QUOTE] We've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq with the Americans and Brits, that's enough justification to make them hate us

[QUOTE=ScottyWired;45931601]How much has Australia actually done to piss extremists off?[/QUOTE] Not tolerating extremism, backing US in war efforts etc. About the same as the UK I would say.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;45931625]We've invaded Afghanistan and Iraq with the Americans and Brits, that's enough justification to make them hate us[/QUOTE] don't matter if you invaded or not ... you not believer in theirs fanatical branch of theirs religion, you threat, enemy and in theirs eyes they will slice your throat anytime they get chance ... fanatics are the real threat to mankind, every and each of us ... the sooner we start deal with it, the higher chance we have really reach stars if we ignore it or try downplay the threat then there is no future for mankind

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;45931968]I doubt they know of australia, let alone seeing them as a threat. Turkey contributed at afghanistan too, and we werent threatened by extremists. Also I dont get why is ISIS relevant. Their effort is at middle east, local thing.[/QUOTE] There are currently Australians fighting for IS and they're not dumb, they're well aware of all western nations including Australia While yes, IS is just right now in the middle east, they have control of some high grade military and have a lot of money. They could easily fund and deploy numerous amounts of attacks later in the future, the job is to crush them before they do that. I'm not a military expert but honestly the sooner these fuckers are exterminated, the safer the world will be

"terrorist attack is likely" lol the only time any terrorist would attack australia is if they wanted to piss other nations off to spur ww3

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;45931989]I'm not a military expert but honestly the sooner these fuckers are exterminated, the safer the world will be[/QUOTE] I'm sure you're aware police forces have killed more citizens than terrorists have in the US and Australia since our alert level was raised in 2003 does this make them a viable target for said extermination too? It would make us safer wouldn't it? They want funding

What's the reason for having this thing at all? Is it so the moment before you're hit by the explosion, you can think to your "oh yeah, they [I]did[/I] say we should've expected this at some point"? All this does is breed fear, and that's pretty much what the terrorists want.

[QUOTE=bye;45932221]I'm sure you're aware police forces have killed more citizens than terrorists have in the US and Australia since our alert level was raised in 2003 does this make them a viable target for said extermination too? It would make us safer wouldn't it? They want funding[/QUOTE] you literally compared police shootings which may or may not have been justified to IS terrorist beheading and executing mass amounts of citizens are you trying your hardest to be a wanker?

Jesus Spying agency That's so fiction bro, why name it like that?

Charlie Brooker is always relevant. [video=youtube;z9a74zoHEAE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9a74zoHEAE[/video]

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;45932360]you literally compared police shootings which may or may not have been justified to IS terrorist beheading and executing mass amounts of citizens are you trying your hardest to be a wanker?[/QUOTE] no, I'm trying to point out the silly double standard you're spewing. Especially when you say it with such emotion, it's almost like this you're blissfully unaware of the awful things perpetrated in the world at the moment by governments and extremists alike. The media's definitely done a number on you. I don't see any boots on ground, or people calling for boots on ground for genocide committed by Israel on Palestinians, including citizens and children. I don't see any boots on ground for governments that practice beheadings for similar Islamic extremist views I'm not saying the whole IS thing isn't barbaric, but this kind of thing (beheadings and mass murder) happens worldwide on a daily basis - are we only outraged and demand military action when that becomes the narrative of the media? are you happy to turn a blind eye to worse things that happen elsewhere? [editline]15th September 2014[/editline] also Fruxodaily, you say things as if you know them to be facts. This is a dangerous precedence You do not know anything other than what the media tells you, you should maybe think about that?

[QUOTE=bye;45978522] also Fruxodaily, you say things as if you know them to be facts. This is a dangerous precedence You do not know anything other than what the media tells you, you should maybe think about that?[/QUOTE] What you said above was correct In regards to this, I know. I have a bad habit of speaking shit in a factual sense when most of my knowledge comes from news sources. I do try to, however get my information from primary sources instead of relying off the media, then again that could be even more misleading. I don't strictly listen to the media, I don't want to be considered one of those mind numbing twats that watch today tonight. I just know I can, in most cases be very easily mislead and I try my hardest to make sure that doesn't happen

yes, and that bad habit can influence others to share a shitty view anyway, supposedly with today's announcement, we're sending military assets to assist in another folly war that isn't our own Brandis is calling it humanitarian mission, but if that was the case, they'd be providing supplies, not contributing to military intervention. Captain Australia has also said in uncertain terms that there will be collateral damage as a result of airstrikes (which is apparently deserved for breaking 'Australian laws' (nice judicial process there, cunt) - this is clearly working for the Yank's drones in Yemen, killing as many children as terrorists - again, where they have no place (unless it's [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki#Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki]to kill their own citizens[/url] of course!) this whole thing stinks, and yet again, we're being America's lapdog - people need to realise this and stop parroting the media and government's narrative - The greens are the only political face to raise questions about our involvement and the length of time this is supposed to take - We have no place to intervene, nor do the States, nor does the UK. America especially no place in Syria, and this is almost a guise to creep into territories as a means of settling other business they have no place in - they tried the chemical weapons excuse, they tried the geonocide excuse, and now we're being fed shoddy beheading videos of dubious legitimacy being used as a pretext for governments to intervene. Foreign nationals are killed overseas all the time, it's really interesting how these few recent beheading are special - I won't go as far myself to call them faked, but their legitimacy and the media's narrative about them is certainly made them dubious topics among critical thinkers - I believe the term is called 'False Flag' most likely to feed the military industrial complex Iraq Part 3 with Syria for dessert [editline]15th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=fruxodaily;45978575] I don't want to be considered one of those mind numbing twats that watch today tonight. I just know I can, in most cases be very easily mislead and I try my hardest to make sure that doesn't happen[/QUOTE] think and ask questions but do not say :)

You guys still have terror threat levels? Are they color-coded? It's not 2003 anymore...

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45985626]You guys still have terror threat levels? Are they color-coded? It's not 2003 anymore...[/QUOTE] yes - there's actually signs displaying the level displayed in some areas. As soon as I get back to my home city I'm going to take a photos of the notification boards on port authority areas that I've been driving past and scoffing at for years

I have the feeling that this is going to be somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Sending the Super Hornets to UAE to potentially do combat in Iraq might just inspire at least one jihadist to attempt to carry out a terrorist attack on Australia. It would only be giving them reasons to target us when otherwise we'd be quite irrelevant.