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[quote=DailyCaller]In late 2010 and early 2011 George Zimmerman, the Hispanic Sanford, Fla., man who shot and killed 17-year-old black teen Trayvon Martin, publicly demanded discipline in a race-related beating case for at least two of the police officers who cleared him after the Feb. 26 altercation, according to records obtained by The Daily Caller. In a letter to Seminole County NAACP president Turner Clayton, a member of the Zimmerman family wrote that George was one of “very few” in Sanford who publicly condemned the “beating of the black homeless man Sherman Ware on Dec. 4, 2010, by the son of a Sanford police officer,” who is white. The Daily Caller has confirmed the identity of the Zimmerman family member who wrote the letter but is withholding that person’s specific identity out of concern for the family’s safety. On Dec. 4, 2010, Justin Collison, the son of Sanford Police Department Lt. Chris Collison, was involved in a bar fight at The Wet Spot bar in Sanford. During the fight, which moved from indoors to outdoors, the younger Collison struck Ware. Ware suffered a concussion, and paramedics took him to the hospital shortly after police arrived on the scene. Collison was not arrested or charged, even though an onlooker had video evidence of his actions. No arrest was made and no action taken for weeks. Documents and emails now show police officers and officials from the office of the State Attorney operated with extreme caution because Collison’s father was a high-ranking law enforcement officer. In the final days of 2010, an Orlando television station aired the video footage of Justin Collison beating Ware. Collison turned himself in six days later, on Jan. 3, 2011. He agreed to pay for Ware’s medical bills and make donations to nonprofit organizations, including the NAACP. After Justin Collison surrendered himself to authorities, the Sanford Police Department struggled to hold its officials accountable. A lengthy investigation conducted by the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office concluded that the police officials involved did not offer Justin Collison “preferential treatment.” [B]Still, according to members of the Zimmerman family, George printed and distributed copies of fliers on bright fluorescent-colored paper demanding that the community “hold accountable” officers responsible for any misconduct. TheDC has obtained a copy of one of those fliers. “Do you know the individual that stepped up when no one else in the black community would?” the Zimmerman family member asked in the letter to the NAACP’s Clayton. “Do you know who spent tireless hours putting fliers on the cars of persons parked in the churches of the black community? Do you know who waited for the church‐goers to get out of church so that he could hand them fliers in an attempt to organize the black community against this horrible miscarriage of justice? Do you know who helped organize the City Hall meeting on January 8th, 2011 at Sanford City Hall??” “That person was GEORGE ZIMMERMAN,” the letter insisted. “Ironic isn’t it?” Every Sunday, according to his family, Zimmerman would stroll through Sanford’s black neighborhoods handing out the fliers demanding justice for Sherman Ware, and calling for the police to hold their own officials accountable. Zimmerman would also place the fliers on people’s cars outside churches. “I challenge you to stand together and to have our voices heard, and to hold accountable all of those officers, and officials whom let this atrocious attack pass unpunished until the media revealed it,” one of the fliers reads in part. “This animal could have attacked anyone of us, our children or loved ones in his alcohol fueled rage.” The officers whom Zimmerman targeted for accountability in the Sherman Ware incident were all cleared by the Seminole County Sheriff’s investigation, despite Zimmerman’s repeated accusations that police gave kid-glove treatment to a white officer’s son who beat a defenseless, homeless black man. But 14 months later, at least two of the same officers investigated the shooting death of Trayvon Martin — and cleared Zimmerman — even though his voice was the loudest calling for their punishment in the Ware case. One of those officers was Timothy Smith. According to a police incident report from the scene of the Feb. 26 shooting, Officer Smith handcuffed Zimmerman and transported him to the police station. Another was Sergeant Anthony Raimondo, who was on scene with Smith and other local officers.[/B] At least one liberal media outlet — the self-described African-American news outlet NewsOne — has framed the story in a different light. On March 19, NewsOne argued that the Sherman Ware incident illustrates a pattern of mistreatment of black victims by the Sanford Police Department. ”They [Sanford police] have a history of NOT arresting offenders who assault black men,” the article’s author declared.[/quote] [url=http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/04/zimmerman-demanded-discipline-in-2010-race-related-beating-for-officers-who-investigated-martin-shooting/]source[/url]
This Trayvon thing is getting confusing.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;35430466]This Trayvon thing is getting confusing.[/QUOTE] I think the only thing that made him seem racist was what NBC did to the tapes, he should be charged with manslaughter as he was told not to follow him, but this is not a race thing I dont think
This whole thing reminds me of the OJ Simpson thing.
i think obama did it.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;35430466]This Trayvon thing is getting confusing.[/QUOTE] It's only confusing because the media created a bullshit story about a white man killing a black kid just for walking down the street so that they could get ratings, despite there being no evidence for that story. More facts about what really happened are starting to come out and the media's bullshit unproven story is falling apart, causing some people to finally let go of their original biased opinion about the incident.
It was the butler that committed the murder!
[QUOTE=imMonkeyGOD;35430670]It was the butler that committed the murder![/QUOTE] It was Zoidberg! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL9ukN9Kk0I[/media]
[QUOTE=imMonkeyGOD;35430670]It was the butler that committed the murder![/QUOTE] No, no, no. It was Colonel Mustard. [IMG]http://www.t-hunts.com/yaba5/images/suspect.mustard.jpg[/IMG] With the Candlestick. [IMG]http://www.t-hunts.com/yaba5/images/weapon.candlestick.jpg[/IMG] In the Dining Room. [IMG]http://www.t-hunts.com/yaba5/images/room.dining.room.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35430755]No, no, no. It was Colonel Mustard. [IMG]http://www.t-hunts.com/yaba5/images/suspect.mustard.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Shit Colonel Mustard is one badass motherfucker. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] I want that awesome mustache
This Trayvon thing is a clusterfuck of shit and I don't even know who was right or wrong anymore...
[QUOTE=Mr. N;35430466]This Trayvon thing is getting confusing.[/QUOTE] I don't find it very confusing at this point. I believe Zimmerman was doing his job and it led to Trayvon retaliating and them getting into a brawl. However, Zimmerman should have stopped going after Trayvon when he was told to refrain from doing so. If they were rolling around and Trayvon was pounding his head into the ground, then I can't say I blame Zimmerman for doing whatever he could to protect himself. Also, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this is the absolute truth, but it's definitely a lot more believable to me.
[QUOTE=Ripvayne;35431030]I don't find it very confusing at this point. I believe Zimmerman was doing his job and it led to Trayvon retaliating and them getting into a brawl. However, Zimmerman should have stopped going after Trayvon when he was told to refrain from doing so. If they were rolling around and Trayvon was pounding his head into the ground, then I can't say I blame Zimmerman for doing whatever he could to protect himself.[/QUOTE] "I don't find it very confusing" *proceeds to make up a bunch of assumptions*
[QUOTE=Lazor;35431049]"I don't find it very confusing" *proceeds to make up a bunch of assumptions*[/QUOTE] I simply stated what I think happened, what I believe happened isn't very confusing. I wasn't there, I can't say I know the real story man. Rate me dumb because I didn't claim to be at the fucking scene of the crime when it happened you arrogant fools.
this is a very unscientific post snip
The media has shat so much on this case most people have no way to know the absolute truth at the moment. Whether the first allegations are true or not it's quite frightening the power the media has.
[QUOTE=bunguer;35431200]The media has shat so much on this case most people have no way to know the absolute truth at the moment. Whether the first allegations are true or not it's quite frightening the power the media has.[/QUOTE] lmao you know who shat on it first? the police
I really wish megathreads would come back for this stuff. I'm tired of this case clogging up the news. Bad enough it's all they talk about on CNN and such.
He followed him when told not to, so either way he should be charged with manslaughter as the death of Travyn was pretty easily avoidable.
[QUOTE=RagamuffinIIII;35432075]He followed him when told not to, so either way he should be charged with manslaughter as the death of Travyn was pretty easily avoidable.[/QUOTE] Jeez this manslaughter stuff. Assuming Zimmerman did in fact approached Martin in a non threatening, non violent way and confront him about what he was doing and Martin got pissed off and attacked, it would not be manslaughter. For it to be manslaughter it would have to be proved that Zimmerman was threatening Martin or provoked him into a fight. As far as I know there was no legal obligation for Zimmerman to not confront Martin.
What I honestly think George Zimmerman is is a good-natured, albeit slow man who really thought he was 'protecting' a neighborhood, and really thought that Trayvon Martin was a criminal. Or, Trayvon Martin really DID attack Zimmerman and Zimmerman panicked and accidentally shot Martin. I still think he is in the wrong for following him despite being told not to by the police.
I was on a gmod server and some kid kept shouting "don't bring skittles to a gunfight!" over the mic
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;35432292]Jeez this manslaughter stuff. Assuming Zimmerman did in fact approached Martin in a non threatening, non violent way and confront him about what he was doing and Martin got pissed off and attacked, it would not be manslaughter. For it to be manslaughter it would have to be proved that Zimmerman was threatening Martin or provoked him into a fight. As far as I know there was no legal obligation for Zimmerman to not confront Martin.[/QUOTE] Yes, but he was told not to follow him but did so regardless.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;35432292]Jeez this manslaughter stuff. Assuming Zimmerman did in fact approached Martin in a non threatening, non violent way and confront him about what he was doing and Martin got pissed off and attacked, it would not be manslaughter. For it to be manslaughter it would have to be proved that Zimmerman was threatening Martin or provoked him into a fight. As far as I know there was no legal obligation for Zimmerman to not confront Martin.[/QUOTE] He was disobeying a direct order from the police, people have been beaten senseless and arrested for less(OWS for example)
[QUOTE=Crimor;35433331]He was disobeying a direct order from the police, people have been beaten senseless and arrested for less(OWS for example)[/QUOTE] He was not told by police, he was told by a 911 dispatcher. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;35432758]Yes, but he was told not to follow him but did so regardless.[/QUOTE] By a 911 dispatcher, who I do not believe have the legal ability to make someone follow their directions. Regardless there is not any evidence to suggest he didn't listen to the operator and kept following him.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;35433418]Regardless there is not any evidence to suggest he didn't listen to the operator and kept following him.[/QUOTE] uh except for the fact that he killed trayvon while pinning him face down in the ground... yep no evidence at all
[QUOTE=gra;35440696]uh except for the fact that he killed trayvon while pinning him face down in the ground... yep no evidence at all[/QUOTE] That really doesn't have anything to do with Zimmerman following him but there is no evidence Trayvon was pinned down when he was shot. It actually would be kinda impossible for Zimmerman to have him pinned face down and manage to shoot him in the chest.
[QUOTE=Lazor;35431218]lmao you know who shat on it first? the police[/QUOTE] When they were forced to shat on it because of the DA?
can we just get the trial on and stop worrying about all these personal accounts
[QUOTE=Trogdon;35441655]can we just get the trial on and stop worrying about all these personal accounts[/QUOTE] Can we just get the trial on and stop worrying about all this evidence
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