Maryland Man Accused of Tapping Money From ISIS Operatives for a U.S. Attack - Polidicks

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/us/politics/maryland-man-accused-of-tapping-money-from-isis-operatives-for-a-us-attack.html?_r=0[/url] [QUOTE]A Maryland man received at least $8,700 from Islamic State operatives overseas and planned to use the money to launch an attack in the United States as part of a pledge of loyalty to the militant group, prosecutors said on Monday.[/QUOTE] More lovely news from Maryland. Never ends!

[QUOTE] Mr. Elshinawy declared himself a “soldier of the state” and said that “his soul was over there with the jihadists and that every time he saw the news, he smiled,” according to the affidavit, filed by David Rodski, an F.B.I. special agent. [/QUOTE] thats quite disturbing. So the guys original excuse was that he was trying to scam ISIS out of some money but according to evidence that the FBI found and stuff like this that he said it doesnt seem to be the case.

Would you get charged for scamming ISIS out of money?

Shit, that's right at home! Should everything come through, we'd probably be the first on ISIS's list. Glad the guy got caught before anything awful happened.

[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;49318804]Shit, that's right at home! Should everything come through, we'd probably be the first on ISIS's list. Glad the guy got caught before anything awful happened.[/QUOTE] Idk why these fucks aren't getting tried for treason or something of the like.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;49318840]Idk why these fucks aren't getting tried for treason or something of the like.[/QUOTE] We don't want to hurt their feelings!

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;49318840]Idk why these fucks aren't getting tried for treason or something of the like.[/QUOTE] Because treason is only chargeable during times of war.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49318865]Because treason is only chargeable during times of war.[/QUOTE] Except that's where we are, dude.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;49318698][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/us/politics/maryland-man-accused-of-tapping-money-from-isis-operatives-for-a-us-attack.html?_r=0[/url] More lovely news from Maryland. Never ends![/QUOTE] You know from the title, I was expecting that he told them that he was going to but instead just stole the money.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;49318871]Except that's where we are, dude.[/QUOTE] im pretty sure the war on terror is not an "official" war since we aren't fighting some nation. I dont think anyone recognizes ISIS a valid nation either

[QUOTE=da space core;49318904]im pretty sure the war on terror is not an "official" war since we aren't fighting some nation. I dont think anyone recognizes ISIS a valid nation either[/QUOTE] If i recall correctly, there is a nation control by a terror group or that the US considers a terror group and that's the one shelling Israel. I'm kinda amazed they haven't officially invaded to take on this terror group that got in legally.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;49318871]Except that's where we are, dude.[/QUOTE] No it's not. "The Global War on Terror" is not a true war in the sense that "The War on Drugs" isn't either.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49318959]No it's not. "The Global War on Terror" is not a true war in the sense that "The War on Drugs" isn't either.[/QUOTE] Except that we are. The Captain who did my swear in at MEPS last year said officially the US is at war still. And has been for the past 25 years or so. So yes we are, and shit like this is reason for treason charges

[QUOTE=ghghop;49318972]Except that we are. The Captain who did my swear in at MEPS last year said officially the US is at war still. And has been for the past 25 years or so. So yes we are, and shit like this is reason for treason charges[/QUOTE] So a Captain said the United States is in a bona-fide state of war so that makes it true? I know a lot of O-3's who say funny stuff all the time. The fact of the matter is that the GWOT is not a war in the true conventional sense so actions like these wouldn't be chargeable as treason.

I'm pretty sure you don't need to be in a state of war to be charged with treason though.

[QUOTE=iAmaNewb;49319087]I'm pretty sure you don't need to be in a state of war to be charged with treason though.[/QUOTE] In the US yes. [editline]15th December 2015[/editline] The last US citizen convicted of treason was for acts commited during WW2.

So the guy basically Doc Brown'd them?

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49318865]Because treason is only chargeable during times of war.[/QUOTE] Funnily enough, we've been a war for more of my life than we haven't been at war.

[QUOTE=da space core;49318904]im pretty sure the war on terror is not an "official" war since we aren't fighting some nation. I dont think anyone recognizes ISIS a valid nation either[/QUOTE] Yet politicians keep saying we are at war. It's just semantics, the West is definitely involved in the war.

[QUOTE=Satansick;49320934]Yet politicians keep saying we are at war. It's just semantics, the West is definitely involved in the war.[/QUOTE] We're not in an official, Congressionally-approved state of conventional war with another sovereign power. That's the whole point of this conversation. Outside of those conditions, this man cannot be legally charged with treason. They can charge him with a ton of other things related to terrorism, but treason isn't among them.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;49321912]We're not in an official, Congressionally-approved state of conventional war with another sovereign power. That's the whole point of this conversation. Outside of those conditions, this man cannot be legally charged with treason. They can charge him with a ton of other things related to terrorism, but treason isn't among them.[/QUOTE] You're right. He didn't officially commit treason according to U.S. law because the U.S. believes its armed conflict against ISIS isn't a war, even though this citizen pledged allegiance to the enemy state and was planning an attack on his own sovereign state.