Turkish General Election results: Islamist AKP wins enough seats for single-party rule (again) - Polidicks

[t]http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/72961000/jpg/_72961632_pmerdogan.jpg[/t] [QUOTE]With a remarkable boost in just five months since the June 7 election, the Justice and Development Party (AKP) won the Nov. 1 snap election with a landslide victory, securing a decisive majority at parliament. The seats in the national assembly will still be occupied by four parties, but the AKP has seen a sharp rise in its share, raising the chances of it making a constitutional amendment that would pave the way for a transition to a presidential system in line with the ambitions of its founding leader, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. The AKP secured around 49.4 percent of the vote, giving it 315 seats in the 550-member parliament, according to results with almost all ballots counted. For a constitutional change at parliament in favor of the presidential system in line with Erdoğan’s aspirations, the AKP needed to win 367 seats, though 330 seats would be enough to take the issue to a referendum.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) encountered a considerable disappointment, as it only managed to slightly improve on its June 7 performance, getting around 25.8 percent. Both the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) and the Kurdish problem-focused Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) lost a considerable number of votes. The HDP, which got 13.2 percent of the votes in June, again managed to cross the 10 percent election threshold to get representation in parliament, but only by a narrow margin. The MHP’s loss was even sharper, dropping to around 12 percent from 16 percent in June, apparently losing a sizable chunk of support to the AKP. [/QUOTE] [t]http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/images/content/polls--2.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.cnnturk.com/ps/cnnturk/100/440x299/563668ffae7849119c8e3de5.jpg[/t] (Gold = AKP, Red = CHP, Purple = HDP) [URL="http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkeys-akp-makes-strong-comeback-wins-enough-seats-for-single-party-rule.aspx?pageID=238&nID=90603&NewsCatID=338"]Source[/URL] Welp, I guess I'll have to move to another country as soon as I graduate since non-muslims like myself will be less welcome than ever.

[QUOTE=The golden;49029141]I don't see much good coming in Turkey's future.[/QUOTE] They added mandatory Arabic classes starting from the 2nd grade not more than 2 weeks ago afaik. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up changing the country's name to something like Islamic Republic of Turkarabia.

[QUOTE=AhoyMate;49029161]They added mandatory Arabic classes starting from the 2nd grade not more than 2 weeks ago afaik. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up changing the country's name to something like Islamic Republic of Turkarabia.[/QUOTE] What's wrong with mandatory Arabic classes?

[QUOTE=DropDeadTed;49029206]What's wrong with mandatory Arabic classes?[/QUOTE] Class itself being mandatory while the citizens of the Republic of Turkey speak either Turkish or Kurdish and the fact that Kurdish classes are not allowed. Now that's what I call hypocrisy. (And no, I'm not Kurdish or anything I'm just stating the facts)

[QUOTE=DropDeadTed;49029206]What's wrong with mandatory Arabic classes?[/QUOTE] The language of Turkey is Turkish. Arabic is the language that you're supposed to read the Koran in.

Welp, there goes any chance of this shithead getting tossed out.

[QUOTE=AhoyMate;49029215]Class itself being mandatory meanwhile Kurdish classes are not allowed. Now that's what I call hypocrisy. (And no, I'm not Kurdish or anything I'm just stating the facts)[/QUOTE] Oh, I forgot that Kurdish is the "native" language of Turkey (is it?) Yeah that's kinda fucked up. Arabic is important to learn of course but outright disallowing Kurdish is... egh.

Isn't Erodogan gunning to make Turkey a dictatorship under his role too? Man, it doesn't sit well with me considering that Merkel is trying to get a Erodogan-led Turkey in the EU so much lately. We didn't sign up for this shit.

[QUOTE=Jordax;49029307]Isn't Erodogan gunning to make Turkey a dictatorship under his role too? Man, it doesn't sit well with me considering that Merkel is trying to get a Erodogan-led Turkey in the EU so much lately. We didn't sign up for this shit.[/QUOTE] Really? I thought support for Turkey as a EU country fell out of vogue a long time ago. My impression was that Merkel is playing it soft with Turkey because of the whole refugee situation.

[QUOTE=DropDeadTed;49029206]What's wrong with mandatory Arabic classes?[/QUOTE] It's spoken by like 1% of the population and Arabic isn't native to Anatolia. At the same time, Kurds get very little support despite making up a substantially bigger proportion of the population and having been native to the region for a long time. If anything I'd be prioritizing Kurdish before Arabic, and maybe putting International English on at least equal footing with Arabic.

Man, Islamism (among other factors) is causing the Turks' world to come creaking down around them, and yet they still doggedly follow their increasingly despotic Islamist leader. There is no reasoning with most people, is there?

[QUOTE=Jon27;49029644]Man, Islamism (among other factors) is causing the Turks' world to come creaking down around them, and yet they still doggedly follow their increasingly despotic Islamist leader. There is no reasoning with most people, is there?[/QUOTE] Well, he does lock up journalists and control the media whilst courting the votes of conservative Muslims in rural areas through support from imams

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;49029655]Well, he does lock up journalists and control the media whilst courting the votes of conservative Muslims in rural areas through support from imams[/QUOTE] A neat combination of modern election-fucking and old-fashioned church politics. Sounds like Erdogan is a firm candidate for ruler of a new Saudi Arabia.

Ataturk is rolling in his grave.

[QUOTE=DropDeadTed;49029206]What's wrong with mandatory Arabic classes?[/QUOTE] It would be like America requiring Latin classes, but not for vocab purposes, but instead only to read the bible in Latin

We might be seeing end of secular Turkey. So many years of progress will be gone, unless army steps up and stops those islamist bigots.

[QUOTE=Creatrick;49032255]We might be seeing end of secular Turkey. So many years of progress will be gone, unless army steps up and stops those islamist bigots.[/QUOTE] That rarely ends well.

[QUOTE=Creatrick;49032255]We might be seeing end of secular Turkey. So many years of progress will be gone, [b]unless army steps up and stops those islamist bigots[/b][/QUOTE] No one will support that kind of thing happening in NATO country.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49029216]The language of Turkey is Turkish. Arabic is the language that you're supposed to read the Koran in.[/QUOTE] In Sweden, we have mandatory English classes because it is a common language in the countries around us. Turkey is near A LOT of arabic-speaking countries. I think mandatory Arabic makes sense. [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49030059]It would be like America requiring Latin classes, but not for vocab purposes, but instead only to read the bible in Latin[/QUOTE] Except Arabic is a really common language in the countries that neighbours Turkey. Mainly Syria and Iraq.

[QUOTE=download;49032473]That rarely ends well.[/QUOTE] Not in Turkey. Historically the army has stepped in periodically to uphold the constitution and prevent theocracy/dictatorships/etc. After Erdogan neutered them, there's not much chance of that happening now though.

Sure army coup never ends completely well, but so does radical religious government. The army, according to Ataturk, has duty to keep country secular and thus keep dangerous islamic elements away from leadership. That's why I believe having army keeping eye on government (especially if it is islamic, neo-ottoman) is a good thing. But it is still too late to predict anything, as election is not over yet and Erdogan is maybe not that dangerous as most of us see him. And as gudman said, no extreme stuff like that could easily happen without foreign involvement. But you will never know. [editline]2nd November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Xystus234;49032646]After Erdogan neutered them, there's not much chance of that happening now though.[/QUOTE] Wait what. He neutered army? How that happened?

[QUOTE=gudman;49032600]No one will support that kind of thing happening in NATO country.[/QUOTE] Then kick them out of NATO. They aren't very good proponents of democracy now, and as far as I see a country that's turning the modern day equivalent of "communist" probably doesn't deserve to be in NATO. [QUOTE]Wait what. He neutered army? How that happened?[/QUOTE] Basically he found out there was a coup possibly happening like two years ago and arrested them for treason or something.

[QUOTE=Xystus234;49032664] They aren't very good proponents of democracy now, and as far as I see a country that's turning the modern day equivalent of "communist" probably doesn't deserve to be in NATO. Basically he found out there was a coup possibly happening like two years ago and arrested them for treason or something.[/QUOTE] Ah, democracy! Taken away by the state for speaking out. Sometimes i wonder if the coal war is really over although it never really begun to begin with.

The Turkish army couped/intervened in the government multiple times during the cold war ( And the 1990's ) when the government turned un-secular. Nato didn't really care at all because they were more or less partners with the army and not with the Turkish government. They would force laws to restore balance and reinstate a democratic government again. Erdogan managed to bring the army under his control by repression and encouraging Ottoman and Islamic nationalism in the army so that's not possible anymore.

[QUOTE=Passing;49032695]Ah, democracy! Taken away by the state for speaking out. Sometimes i wonder if the coal war is really over although it never really begun to begin with.[/QUOTE] It was just put on standby mode. What is happening in the world now (Proxy war in Syria, Ukraine, saber rattling in South China sea...) is a revived cold war.

[QUOTE=cheezey;49032713]The Turkish army couped/intervened in the government multiple times during the cold war ( And the 1990's ) when the government turned un-secular. Nato didn't really care at all because they were more or less partners with the army and not with the Turkish government. They would force laws to restore balance and reinstate a democratic government again. Erdogan managed to bring the army under his control by repression and encouraging Ottoman and Islamic nationalism in the army so that's not possible anymore.[/QUOTE] From what I've been told by a turk nobody would trust the military since it's estranged from both your typical AKP voter and the Turkish left, which influences a lot of opposition to Erdogan.

[QUOTE=Conscript;49032725]From what I've been told by a turk nobody would trust the military since it's estranged from both your typical AKP voter and the Turkish left, which influences a lot of opposition to Erdogan.[/QUOTE] Not surprising considering the circumstances. On another note, this map speaks millions: [IMG]http://i.cnnturk.com/ps/cnnturk/100/440x299/563668ffae7849119c8e3de5.jpg[/IMG] If you look at the historical makeup of the area, you can see that the Kurdish area of Turkey is represented approximately in the purple, while the historically Greek area of turkey could be somewhat represented by red. I don't know if that's related but one could draw some interesting conclusions from that.

[QUOTE=Xystus234;49032771]Not surprising considering the circumstances. On another note, this map speaks millions: [IMG]http://i.cnnturk.com/ps/cnnturk/100/440x299/563668ffae7849119c8e3de5.jpg[/IMG] If you look at the historical makeup of the area, you can see that the Kurdish area of Turkey is represented approximately in the purple, while the historically Greek area of turkey could be somewhat represented by red. I don't know if that's related but one could draw some interesting conclusions from that.[/QUOTE] Yea it really is interesting. [Img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/TreatyOfSevres_(corrected).PNG[/img] Seems like things don't change much [Img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Turkish_general_election,_2007.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Xystus234;49032771] If you look at the historical makeup of the area, you can see that the Kurdish area of Turkey is represented approximately in the purple, while the historically Greek area of turkey could be somewhat represented by red. I don't know if that's related but one could draw some interesting conclusions from that.[/QUOTE] Uhh.. It has nothing to do with the Greeks, most of the secular patriots happen to live in those areas and that's it. Besides, the western cities were where the Turkish revolution had begun.

[QUOTE=AhoyMate;49033351]Uhh.. It has nothing to do with the Greeks, most of the secular patriots happen to live in those areas and that's it. Besides, the western cities were where the Turkish revolution had begun.[/QUOTE] Turks = Muslim Greeks