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[quote]One of the nation's most notorious serial killers, dubbed the Yorkshire Ripper, on Monday began a bid to be freed from prison.
Peter Sutcliffe, who was jailed for life in 1981 for the murder of 13 women and seven counts of attempted murder, has applied to the High Court in London to grant him a finite minimum sentence.
The 63-year-old is being held at the high-security Broadmoor Hospital, west of London, after being transferred from prison in 1984 suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.
At a preliminary High Court hearing Monday, judge John Mitting began deciding what form the full hearing should take, and what evidence should be admitted.
Sutcliffe's original judge said he must serve a minimum of 30 years behind bars -- a period which expires next year.
The truck driver's murderous campaign against prostitutes and young women in northern England between 1975 and 1980 sparked widespread fear across the country until he was eventually jailed in 1981.
Eleven of the women Sutcliffe murdered were found in west Yorkshire, where he was from.
He would batter women over the head with a hammer and stab them in the chest and abdomen with a knife or a screwdriver.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said in February last year that it was "very unlikely" Sutcliffe would be released.
The court move revolves around a November 2006 medical report by Doctor Kevin Murray, who is treating Sutcliffe.
The treatment "has had, in Dr Murray's view, very considerable success", said Judge Mitting.
Since 1993, Sutcliffe had been "relatively responsive to treatment", leading to a conclusion that "so long as treatment continues he should be regarded as posing a low risk of re-offending", the judge said, citing the doctor's report.
In his report, Murray said it was his "blunt and firm conclusion" that the 1981 verdicts of guilty to murder were wrong.
If verdicts of manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility had been accepted by the prosecution or returned by the jury, then Sutcliffe could have been given an unlimited hospital order.
[b]Sutcliffe is now known as Peter Coonan.[/b][/quote]
I say set him free.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;20495675]I say set him free.[/QUOTE]
Why? Unless he seriously shows he's reformed it would be a better idea to keep him in.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495735]Why? Unless he seriously shows he's reformed it would be a better idea to keep him in.[/QUOTE]
Set him free because he kills people, everyone knows murderers are cool super heroes. My favorite super hero was Ted Bundy, he flew from city to city raping and murdering women.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;20495751]Set him free because he kills people, everyone knows murderers are cool super heroes. My favorite super hero was Ted Bundy, he flew from city to city raping and murdering women.[/QUOTE]
If you can't come up with a decent reply don't post you arsewipe. Murder can never be justified.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495783]Murder can never be justified.[/QUOTE]
What about if you murdered Hitler?
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;20495821]What about if you murdered Hitler?[/QUOTE]
You cant murder hitler, he was like superman and his only Kryptonite was the pill he took.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;20495821]What about if you murdered Hitler?[/QUOTE]
Then it'd still be wrong. He should at least be given a chance to appeal, but that's not taking human emotion into effect. The more emotional types probably would try to justify it with his actions but it's your actions your trying to justify not his.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;20495821]What about if you murdered Hitler?[/QUOTE]
Hitler was a great man.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;20495751]Set him free because he kills people, everyone knows murderers are cool super heroes. My favorite super hero was Ted Bundy, he flew from city to city raping and murdering women.[/QUOTE]
almost 70 million population, we need a kull
:smug:
yes release him free yorkshire ripper is my favorite.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495783]Murder can never be justified.[/QUOTE]
Murder boo.
[QUOTE=Spartex;20495886]almsot 70 million population, we need a kull
:smug:[/QUOTE]
He was such a pro.
just what britain needs
seriously, let him free
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;20495821]What about if you murdered Hitler?[/QUOTE]
Difference between murder and killing. It's how the christians justified the crusades :smug:
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[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495855]Then it'd still be wrong. He should at least be given a chance to appeal, but that's not taking human emotion into effect. The more emotional types probably would try to justify it with his actions but it's your actions your trying to justify not his.[/QUOTE]
No it wouldn't.
Murder definition: [B]unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being[/b]
Killing is justifable under certain circumstances.
[QUOTE=professional;20495967]
No it wouldn't.
Murder definition: [B]unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being[/b]
Killing is justifable under certain circumstances.[/QUOTE]
And what would these curcumstances be?
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495855]Then it'd still be wrong. He should at least be given a chance to appeal, but that's not taking human emotion into effect. The more emotional types probably would try to justify it with his actions but it's your actions your trying to justify not his.[/QUOTE]
murder is justified when the murdered murderer sees fit to take human life, or as an act f revenge for other unspeakable crimes.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495783]Murder can never be justified.[/QUOTE]
war can't be jutified either but guess what, we still goto war anyway
[QUOTE=bravehat;20496054]murder is justified when the murdered murderer sees fit to take human life, or as an act f revenge for other unspeakable crimes.[/QUOTE]
No, no it isn't. By murdering the murderer you are only lowering yourself to his standard.Everyone at least deserves a chance of a fair trial.
[editline]08:09PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Re-Con;20496110]war can't be jutified either but guess what, we still goto war anyway[/QUOTE]
Most wars can be justified but they're not always fought for the right reasons.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;20495821]What about if you murdered Hitler?[/QUOTE]
Why do people think that he was this super villain? He really wasn't. He was just a leader that lost the war.
[QUOTE=rieda1589;20495878]Hitler was a great man.[/QUOTE]
However he was a awful tactician.
[editline]08:16PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=aydin690;20496538]Why do people think that he was this super villain? He really wasn't. He was just a leader that lost the war.[/QUOTE]
Do you forget that me also masterminded the murder of 6 Million people and made many more die in the ghettoes?
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20496435]
Most wars can be justified but they're not always fought for the right reasons.[/QUOTE]
the loss of human life is justified?
[QUOTE=Re-Con;20496749]the loss of human life is justified?[/QUOTE]
Death is all part and parcel with War. It's just a fact of life.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20496026]And what would these curcumstances be?[/QUOTE]
Self defence. War with legal combatants. Seeing fit to kill an assailant to save another citizens life. Etc.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20495783]If you can't come up with a decent reply don't post you arsewipe. Murder can never be justified.[/QUOTE]
Hey, leave off - not all murderers were bad. Fred West could lay a lovely patio.
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[img]http://www.allserialkillers.com/Fred_FaceSHOP.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=professional;20497433]Self defence. War with legal combatants. Seeing fit to kill an assailant to save another citizens life. Etc.[/QUOTE]
But killing a person in self-defence isn't murder, neither is a legal war.
Fun fact, during the hunt for the yorkshire ripper, about 1/10 women in the Yorkshire area called the police to say it was their husband.
[editline]09:46PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Splurgy;20497515]Hey, leave off - not all murderers were bad. Fred West could lay a lovely patio.
[editline]09:00PM[/editline]
[img]http://www.allserialkillers.com/Fred_FaceSHOP.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Those insensitive police going and tearing it up. :colbert:
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20496435]No, no it isn't. By murdering the murderer you are only lowering yourself to his standard.Everyone at least deserves a chance of a fair trial.[/QUOTE]
Theres a reason theres a primal emotion called bloodlust.
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[QUOTE=MachiniOs;20497632]But killing a person in self-defence isn't murder, neither is a legal war.[/QUOTE]
But in a war you are pre meditating the destruction of human life.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;20495935]He was such a pro.[/QUOTE]
Not that much of a pro if he got caught.
[QUOTE=bravehat;20498913]Theres a reason theres a primal emotion called bloodlust.
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Yes but we aren't under threat from wild animals anymore, there is no reason to show it.
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[QUOTE=bravehat;20498913]
But in a war you are pre meditating the destruction of human life.[/QUOTE]
If they fire on you you shooting back is self-defence. I do understand that going on the offensive can be seen as murder but in the legal sense it's not.
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