Trump aware of how blindly loyal his base is: "I could shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters" - Polidicks

[quote]Donald Trump boasted Saturday that support for his presidential campaign would not decline even if he shot someone in the middle of a crowded street. [B]"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally here.[/B] After the event, Trump declined to answer when asked by CNN to clarify his comments. The GOP front-runner has repeatedly pointed to the loyalty of his supporters, many of whom tell reporters and pollsters that almost nothing could make them change their mind about voting for Trump in the presidential race. Trump's comments come as the debate about gun violence in America has taken center stage in American political discourse amid several highly publicized mass shootings. Trump has repeatedly touted his strong support for the Second Amendment and slammed President Barack Obama's recent use of executive orders to expand the reach of background checks needed to purchase a gun. The brash billionaire's comments also come less than two months after two ISIS-inspired terrorists killed 14 people in San Bernardino, California, and ISIS-linked attacks killed 130 in Paris. In response, Trump has called for fewer gun restrictions and a harder stance on terrorism.[/quote] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html[/url]

Maybe, but he would get imprisoned which would probably impede his quest for presidency.

I'm pretty sure being a murderer would put a kink in his election plans.

He didn't say he would do it, he just said he could do it.

This post from 36 hours ago is suddenly a lot fucking more realistic and that's terrifying: [QUOTE=Mingebox;49589741]It had all been so easy. All he had to make a sexist remark here, a racist one there, but always with just enough room for the benefit of the doubt. But now was when the second half of the plan would come into action. Tonight he would dial up the rhetoric up, bit by bit, until he had his followers whipped up into a nationalistic fury not unlike the Three Minutes Hate. Surely then, the nation would see these people they shared this country with, so easily roused by the lightest touch of populist rhetoric, for the nascent fascists they are? The Republican party would have to choice but to reform, both moderating the political climate direction and clinching victory for the democrats. Donald smiled. Yes, tonight would be the first night of a new progressive era. This was his cue. Sarah had warmed the crowd up for him, no doubt with some inane tripe full of folksy Alaskan wisdom and You Betcha's. He took his place at the podium amid the cheers and flashing cameras. "My fellow Americans," he began (The classics never failed), "I'm proud to stand here today with so many men and women ready to make America great again!" There was some whooping and clapping, a safe and unobjectionable start. "But as many of us know, our great country, our way of life is under attack!" He swallowed. This was going to be where it start getting tricky. "There are people out there that hate our way of life." This elicited a few indignant whoops. " People who hate America and what it stands for. People who would like nothing more to see our great culture destroyed!" The whoops were starting to give way to subdued roar. "Some people want to tell us we should have diversity and tolerance- tolerance for people who come across our borders with their drugs and rape our women! Tolerance for people who'd rather live in the slums and steal and kill than do a hard day's work! Tolerance for savages who want bring their Sharia law and slaughter anyone who disagrees." By now the crowd was hanging on his every word, all that was left was to deliver the coup de grace. "We gave them every chance, but we now know that some people will never be able to accept the American way of life. Well I say enough! I say it's about time we take this country back!" The crowd was now in a full fit of righteous anger. Donald was glad he didn't have to hide his smile- he didn't think he could have if he had to. It had all been so easy in deed. In fact, he was feeling pretty smug. He could easily push them even further... "Now there's some people out there. People who control the media, and they want you to let them walk right over you." He was barely dog-whistling at this point, but nobody in the crowd seemed to notice. "People who want to tell you that you're no better than those that would destroy our life, that they have just as much right to be here." Not even one person in the crowd seemed offput. Donald frowned. Surely [I]some [/I]of the people had some sort of stopping point. Well he had already made his point, might as well see how far he could push it. "These Jews, and I think none of us here are afraid to say it, envy our culture, our prosperity!" Not even a single confused look in the crowd. In fact, they seemed to be louder than ever! Donald was starting to become uneasy, even he hadn't imagined things had become this bad. He continued, uncertainty starting to set into his voice. "Well no more words, words have failed us. Now is the time for action, now is the time we march up there and do something about it!" the crowd was in a maddened frenzy now- screaming and stomping the ground. Panic began to set in. This couldn't be real, even in his worst nightmares, he'd never imagined the country to be in this state. Unthinking, desperate to see the slightest glimpse of sanity, he grabbed the microphone and screamed: "Are we just going to stands around while these kikes let these chimps and towelheads run amok? We have no choice to finish what was started 80 years ago!" Now the slightest shred of civility had evaporated, and the crowd was all but tearing each other to shreds in a fit of blind, mindless fervor. "WHAT"S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?" He tried to scream. But such was the fury of the crowd, that even with the microphone, he could no longer hear his own voice. And still the noise grew louder. The noise! Louder than a jet engine, louder than a rocket launch! Louder than anything could possibly ever be! Blood started to drip from his ears as he curled up under the podium and began to weep. Donald woke up slouched in a wheelchair in a sterile, tiled room illuminated by the golden light of late afternoon streaming through the large windows, only dimly aware of the other dazed-looking individuals lurching about or slumped in their chairs. If still had the capacity to notice, he might have found it odd seeing himself in the television screen saying something about how the recent violent attacks were unfortunate, but were inevitably going to happen. He might have been unnerved when the man in the white coat walked over and mentioned his miraculous full recovery from that stroke, and his subsequent nomination. Instead he looked blankly out the window and thought how nice to looked outside today.[/QUOTE]

He could go shoot an American Moslem and he'd end up gaining voters knowing him.

FUCK. I knew trump is bad. I wasn't expected this bad

[QUOTE=Lium;49599805]Maybe, but he would get imprisoned which would probably impede his quest for presidency.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=V12US;49599806]I'm pretty sure being a murderer would put a kink in his election plans.[/QUOTE] That's why you get your Brownshirts/Blackshirts to do that dirty work for you instead. You issue the orders, they act as the enforcers of those orders. But you do it carefully so if you get into trouble with the law, you can always claim, "Well [i]I[/i] never did anything personally-- I never attacked or killed anybody. And there's no evidence I ever directly ordered any of that stuff to be done either." And as for your enforcers that get caught, you publicize their trials and give them whatever legal support you can. You make them into martyrs; "Look at how our opponents are persecuting us! This corrupt government is against us! [i]We're[/i] the victims here! These brave comrades of ours did nothing wrong!" Study the rise of Hitler. This is what he did. [url=http://wwwcrossx.blogspot.com/2011/03/cross-examining-hitler.html]Hell, he even showed up in court to testify in support of his SA men.[/url] With the amount of support Trump has, the fervor he has arisen in his followers, he absolutely could create his own small paramilitary corps along these lines if he wanted to. But I don't see any indication of things leading to that. Not yet anyway. It's just disappointing and somewhat disturbing that this buffoon has been allowed to get as far along as he has.

[QUOTE=V12US;49599806]I'm pretty sure being a murderer would put a kink in his election plans.[/QUOTE] Didn't stop Hillary.

The thing about Trump being the front runner is he doesn't have the majority of the GOP's vote. If you combine all the other runner's supporters and weigh it against Trumps, you'll find that the vast majority of people in the GOP [I]don't[/I] want him in office.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49600014]The thing about Trump being the front runner is he doesn't have the majority of the GOP's vote. If you combine all the other runner's supporters and weigh it against Trumps, you'll find that the vast majority of people in the GOP [I]don't[/I] want him in office.[/QUOTE] it won't matter if everyone else's votes are split plus the next guy in line is ted cruz and hes just a different kind of awful

He probably won't even lose followers for knowing this

[QUOTE=kobalt;49599987]Didn't stop Hillary.[/QUOTE] What?

Say what you want about Trump, if I were American I probably wouldn't vote for him either, but he really knows how to market himself, which makes him really dangerous. At the start I thought he'd have no way of getting far, he's just too out there, but I don't know now. Other candidates including Sanders play too-much politics with their marketing, but Trump has made himself out to be something else; standing out from the crowd. He appeals to emotion very well. The scary thing is that if you look at Trump's policies on his website, half of them are actually quite reasonable. [editline]25th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49600014]The thing about Trump being the front runner is he doesn't have the majority of the GOP's vote. If you combine all the other runner's supporters and weigh it against Trumps, you'll find that the vast majority of people in the GOP [I]don't[/I] want him in office.[/QUOTE] It's hard to say, you're right on first preferences, but for instance just because Cruz is the second-most popular doesn't mean supporters of every other candidate would prefer Cruz over Trump. On second preferences and so on, Trump might have more support than we thought.

Trump might just be the smartest man running in this election. And that is absolutely terrifying. He knows with absolute certainty how to manage his supporters. He's turned every major media outlet and late-night comedian into his PR department. He's the face of the GOP electorate right now, and he's running the show. I wonder how much market research went into his campaign. The biggest thing that sets him apart is that, while his competition is trying to present what they think the voters want, he's somehow figured out how to present what they're actually looking for. The GOP voting base is quite rabid, and he's definitely appealing to the carnal nature of his supporters. I think it may have been risky at first, since it's a total departure from the standard political framework, but it's actually working really well. And I'm very afraid.

[QUOTE=Luni;49600067]it won't matter if everyone else's votes are split plus the next guy in line is ted cruz and hes just a different kind of awful[/QUOTE] A same kind of awful.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised that when he wins, he annouces that his vice-president is either Sanders or Clinton. After that he announces to the entire senate that all the republicans can shove it up their ass, after which he drops the mic and lets the vice-president become the president.

trump is probably the most loudmouthed, stupid, and crude presidential candidate ever and he's leading the polls rip america

[QUOTE=kobalt;49599987]Didn't stop Hillary.[/QUOTE] What is this in reference to?

[QUOTE=Trixil;49600684]trump is probably the most loudmouthed, stupid, and crude presidential candidate ever and he's leading the polls rip america[/QUOTE] You'd have to be stupid to think Trump is stupid. He's possibly the smartest candidate of this election.

Trump is just another Ross Perot. Give him a couple more months, and suddenly those poll numbers will disappear, and the media will start talking about some other candidate who is far more serious and more likely to receive the nomination. It's silly how people feel that their entire worldview is threatened by an elderly billionaire who stands on a stage and says silly things.

[QUOTE=daschnek;49600752]Trump is just another Ross Perot. Give him a couple more months, and suddenly those poll numbers will disappear, and the media will start talking about some other candidate who is far more serious and more likely to receive the nomination. It's silly how people feel that their entire worldview is threatened by an elderly billionaire who stands on a stage and says silly things.[/QUOTE] They said that a couple months ago...

[QUOTE=daschnek;49600752]Trump is just another Ross Perot. Give him a couple more months, and suddenly those poll numbers will disappear, and the media will start talking about some other candidate who is far more serious and more likely to receive the nomination. It's silly how people feel that their entire worldview is threatened by an elderly billionaire who stands on a stage and says silly things.[/QUOTE] Trump is not disappearing. He's been in this race for over six months. He's not going anywhere.

I volunteer, let me be the martyr to end his campaign. I kid, I kid... They'd just ask him to shoot another one of us.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;49601077]His plan is to be so stupid and dumb that he actually looks smart [I]Ingenious[/I][/QUOTE] He's smart because he knows how to market himself better than any of the other candidates, on either side, can. And it's working.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49600793]They said that a couple months ago...[/QUOTE] And "they", whoever they are, would be correct - just allow time to take its course. [QUOTE=woolio1;49600898]Trump is not disappearing. He's been in this race for over six months. He's not going anywhere.[/QUOTE] What race? The race hasn't actually started yet. After some primary votes are counted, then we can start talking about who's in the race and who isn't. Announcing a candidacy and giving some talks is something that even self-admitted joke candidates like Vermin Supreme can do. The entire story of Donald Trump is a story of silly liberals who feel that Trump's high poll numbers threaten their way of life, and conservatives who can't stop shitting their pants as they try to distance themselves from Trump - they know that Trump's positions are too close to what they truly feel. The quadrennial election circus is incredibly entertaining this time around, you guys just don't see it.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;49601120]it doesn't take much intelligence to figure out that you can pander to a large crowd of neo-con reactionaries and various counterculture movements (whilst also taking advantage of the currently instable gop climate) not saying he's dumb, but he's not significantly smarter or dumber than his competitors i know you don't like bernie sanders but using your logic he is also incredibly smart and good at marketing, no one knew about the guy until just about a year ago or whatever and now he's actually standing a chance at competing with clinton[/QUOTE] Yeah Sanders has done a good job with marketing, no denial about that, but that's not to say that Trump hasn't done a good job himself. Trump is a household name even here, while no one knows about Sanders. In a recent poll, only 6% of Australian respondents would like to see Sanders as President, while 12% would prefer Trump (despite how supposedly disagreeable he is) and 40% would prefer Hillary. [editline]25th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=RenegadeCop;49601127]No one else wants to be marketed to the anti-muslim/mexican/etc. xenophobe people[/QUOTE] It's a very large voting base. It might be honourable, for instance, to market to younger people, but that's a segment which historically has a relatively low voter turnout. The first candidate to ever mobilise young voters in a greater proportion than say the retired is going to go down in history. Will Sanders do that? Maybe. But Obama and Ron Paul failed at that too despite both being popular with young people (although I suppose Obama was elected twice).

Trump could insult his voters directly and he'd still be relatively unscathed.

yup. exactly what makes this whole thing so scary

I feel like we're in for some serious shit after this election. Regardless of who becomes president