Australian NSW Police Adopting Shoot On Site Approach for Extremists - Polidicks

[url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-17/nsw-police-trained-to-shoot-extremists-on-sight/6946658[/url] [quote]New South Wales police are being trained to shoot armed extremists on sight, in a change of policy prompted by recent terrorist attacks. Acting Commissioner Nick Kaldas said police had ditched the "contain and negotiate" approach, which has been in place for two decades. Mr Kaldas said new armed offender training, based on a US model, began three weeks ago with FBI-trained instructors. "We're at a point now where the ground has shifted, things have changed and starting with Mumbai onwards there's been any number of attacks where you have a mobile enemy force, which moves through places and kills people," he said. "We would be mad to continue to say we will do nothing but contain and negotiate." [B]However, Mr Kaldas stressed the "shoot on sight" order would not be appropriate in all circumstances. He described reports that half the officers who had taken the course had failed, as alarmist.[/B][/quote]

No different than the "shoot down the aircraft" approach adopted after 9/11 when suicide-terrorism gained notoriety.

Does this include the 'extremists' who go to environmental protests and listen to alternative rock music as stated in the federal government's extremism handbook?

geeze because this isnt going to cause a media shitstorm the second something goes wrong is it

[QUOTE=archival;49131218]geeze because this isnt going to cause a media shitstorm the second something goes wrong is it[/QUOTE] And it won't cause a media shitstorm if the government fails to treat this situation as the threat it really is? mainstream media are opportunists, theres nothing new there and its why their cache culturally has been dying for years as they get pushed out by alternative media.

I thought any person that directly threatens the life of others is already shoot on sight to any police force so what exactly is defined as an extremist here?

[QUOTE=Blackfire76;49131180]Does this include the 'extremists' who go to environmental protests and listen to alternative rock music as stated in the federal government's extremism handbook?[/QUOTE] It does explicitly state that this only applies if they are armed -- also, a huge number of the officers participating in the training are failing.

[QUOTE=download;49131033]No different than the "shoot down the aircraft" approach adopted after 9/11 when suicide-terrorism gained notoriety.[/QUOTE] To be fair, before 9/11 aircraft hijacking usually meant "We're gonna fly around until you give in to our demands". The ramming airplanes into buildings was a complete shock to everyone.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49131722]To be fair, before 9/11 aircraft hijacking usually meant "We're gonna fly around until you give in to our demands". The ramming airplanes into buildings was a complete shock to everyone.[/QUOTE] Hostage takers happily shooting their hostages is also rather new.

[QUOTE=Blackfire76;49131180]Does this include the 'extremists' who go to environmental protests and listen to alternative rock music as stated in the federal government's extremism handbook?[/QUOTE] [quote] New South Wales police are being trained to shoot [B]armed[/B] extremists on sight, in a change of policy prompted by recent terrorist attacks. [/quote] I think that answers it.