Iran claims it has photos of secret Israeli sites from drone - Polidicks

[QUOTE] [IMG]http://rt.com/files/news/hezbollah-drone-israel-secrets-403/i30a6b3ead92966028baa4aad1c2b6799_32.n.jpg[/IMG] Iran has images of sensitive Israeli military bases taken by a drone that was launched by Lebanon's Hezbollah movement and downed by Israel earlier this month, a senior Iranian lawmaker claimed Monday in the latest boast from Tehran about purported advances in the capabilities of its unmanned aircraft. The announcement gave no details about the photos — other than calling the Israeli bases "forbidden sites" — but it suggested Iranian drones have the ability to transmit data while in flight. It also appeared aimed at warning Israel about the options for retaliation for any possible strikes on Iranian nuclear sites. A prominent lawmaker, Ismaeil Kowsari, also was quoted as saying that the Iranian-backed Hezbollah possesses more sophisticated Iranian-made drones than the one that was downed, including some that could carry weapons. There was no immediate comment from Israeli officials. "These drones transmit the pictures online," Kowsari he told the semiofficial Mehr news agency. "The pictures of forbidden sites taken and transmitted by this drone are now in our possession." The lawmaker, who heads the parliament's defense committee, said Hezbollah is "definitely" equipped with more sophisticated drones, but gave no further details. Hezbollah "won't announce it as long as it doesn't see the need to do so ... That's why we say we will respond to Israel inside (its) territory, should it take any action against us," said Kowsari, a former commander of the powerful Revolutionary Guard. Iran has claimed that Iranian-made surveillance drones have made dozens of apparently undetected flights into Israeli airspace from Lebanon in recent years. Israel has rejected the account. Iran's Defense Minister Ahmad Vahid also claimed on Sunday that Tehran has drones far more advanced than the Ayub unmanned aircraft launched by Hezbollah, saying it was not the "latest Iranian technology, definitely." He did not elaborate. Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah has said the Ayub drone was manufactured in Iran and assembled in Lebanon. Iran routinely announces technological breakthroughs in its defense program. Last month it claimed to have started producing a long-range missile-carrying drone with a range of 2,000 kilometers (1,250 miles). The Shahed-129, or Witness-129, covers much of the Middle East including Israel and nearly doubles the range of previous drones produced by Iranian technicians, who have often relied on reverse engineering military hardware with the country under Western embargo. But it's unclear whether the new drone contains any elements of an unmanned CIA aircraft that went down in eastern Iran last year. Iran said it has recovered data from the RQ-170 Sentinel and claimed it was building its own replica. Iran's claims are impossible to independently confirm because the country's arsenal is not open to widespread international inspection with multinational war games or other cooperation. [/QUOTE] [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/report-iran-drone-pictures-israeli-bases-17586939#.UI6BeMXgnQk"]abc[/URL] Neat article.

Probably Israel's missile sites or the lovely concentr-[B]PRISON[/B] camps for the poor Palestinian people.

Probably bluffing, or they'd have said it earlier.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234039]Probably bluffing, or they'd have said it earlier.[/QUOTE] What other reason would they send a UAV over another countries territory other then to observe the enemies activities? Surely they can both test their response and get photos of top secret bases etc at the same time.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234039]Probably bluffing, or they'd have said it earlier.[/QUOTE] uh, analyzing data takes time and most of the stuff the military doesn't tell to the public unless it has PR benefits. Every country does this, and none of them release information the day it was taken.

[QUOTE=laserguided;38234060]What other reason would they send a UAV over another countries territory other then to observe the enemies activities? Surely they can both test their response and get photos of top secret bases etc at the same time.[/QUOTE] Not saying it didn't take pictures, just saying it didn't catch anything 'secret' or 'illegal'.

Good for them! Y'know, because Iran [I]giving[/I] Israel a reason to bomb the shit out of everything between Tel Aviv and Tehran is really helpful. Finally we can get this shit on the road. [video=youtube;JlSQAZEp3PA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA[/video]

[QUOTE=Riller;38234070]Not saying it didn't take pictures, just saying it didn't catch anything 'secret' or 'illegal'.[/QUOTE] Israel was prepping for a exercise with the US, could have revealed some of their defences. Plus it could have gotten photos of Dimona and other nuclear facilities.

[QUOTE=laserguided;38234118]Israel was prepping for a exercise with the US, could have revealed some of their defences. Plus it could have gotten photos of Dimona and other nuclear facilities.[/QUOTE] The exercise, maaaybe. Nuclear shit, I doubt it. As far as I remember, it was shot down just as it crossed the border.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234131]The exercise, maaaybe. Nuclear shit, I doubt it. As far as I remember, it was shot down just as it crossed the border.[/QUOTE] It was in Israeli air space for 30 minutes and was shot down north of the Negev desert. Dimona is north of the negev desert. Its pretty plausible actually. [IMG]http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S1352231099001569-gr1.gif[/IMG]

Just sayan, Iran is known to be pretty much compulsive liars when it comes to their military capacities. [IMG]http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/11/iranmissiles.jpg[/IMG] [editline]29th October 2012[/editline] I mean, it's POSSIBLE, but I'm skeptical. Iran's locally produced attack helicopter is a kit-chopper with a sheet metal skin on it; their stealth plane-boats are kit-ekranoplans with PKMs... Sorta not impressed here.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234164]Just sayan, Iran is known to be pretty much compulsive liars when it comes to their military capacities. [IMG]http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/11/iranmissiles.jpg[/IMG] [editline]29th October 2012[/editline] I mean, it's POSSIBLE, but I'm skeptical. Iran's locally produced attack helicopter is a kit-chopper with a sheet metal skin on it; their stealth plane-boats are kit-ekranoplans with PKMs... Sorta not impressed here.[/QUOTE] How is this a kit helicopter? [t]http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/6/4/1501463.jpg[/t] They seem to be able to build Cobra's, long range strike UAV's and of coarse MRBM's. They seem decent compared to the rest of the middle east's technological ability. Plus they're the only country in the middle east to have a space program, not to mention nuclear program. I think you're underestimating Iran.

[QUOTE]The announcement gave no details about the photos — other than calling the Israeli bases "forbidden sites" — but it suggested [b]Iranian drones have the ability to transmit data while in flight.[/b][/QUOTE] Unmanned drones transmitting data during flight, what.

[QUOTE=laserguided;38234340]How is this a kit helicopter? [t]http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/6/4/1501463.jpg[/t] They seem to be able to build Cobra's, long range strike UAV's and of coarse MRBM's. They seem decent compared to the rest of the middle east's technological ability. But each to their own.[/QUOTE] That's not Iranian made. USA gave them Cobras pre-revolution, they just keep them airborne. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Iranian_Revolutionary_Guard_Air_Force_Shahed_285_Sharifi.jpg/640px-Iranian_Revolutionary_Guard_Air_Force_Shahed_285_Sharifi.jpg[/IMG] This is an Iranian helicopter.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234361]That's not Iranian made. USA gave them Cobras pre-revolution, they just keep them airborne. This is an Iranian helicopter.[/QUOTE] I'm going to assume you know nothing.. Okay then, Iran reverse engineered and modified Cobra's and now produces them by themselves. Just like they reverse engineered F14 parts and Mig29 parts to keep them in the air. The pictured helicopter is a HESA P4. Once again.. I think you're underestimating Iran's scientific ability.

It's like sexting on a national level

[QUOTE=laserguided;38234379]I'm going to assume you know nothing.. Okay then, Iran reverse engineered and modified Cobra's and now produces them by themselves. Just like they reverse engineered F14 parts and Mig29 parts to keep them in the air. The pictured helicopter is a HESA P4.[/QUOTE] Uh, yeah. No. They never REVERSE ENGINEERED shit for aircraft. They maintained and added to. Reverse engineering implies that they can build them themselves. They can't. They still got the same airframes they got back in 1975. [editline]29th October 2012[/editline] And I know Iran is relatively good at what they do, compared to who surrounds them, but still. They are known to be liars when it comes to military technology, saying to have hacked US drones, launched all their ICBMs without duds and made high-tech stealth planes that really are weekend project boats.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234417]Uh, yeah. No. They never REVERSE ENGINEERED shit for aircraft. They maintained and added to. Reverse engineering implies that they can build them themselves. They can't. They still got the same airframes they got back in 1975. [editline]29th October 2012[/editline] And I know Iran is relatively good at what they do, compared to who surrounds them, but still. They are known to be liars when it comes to military technology, saying to have hacked US drones, launched all their ICBMs without duds and made high-tech stealth planes that really are weekend project boats.[/QUOTE] Okay you are very difficult to have a conversation with. What part of they reverse engineer and built Cobra's do you not understand. They also reverse engineer and build F-5's. I'm just going to assume you arent willing to accept facts and move on. [t]http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4197/54119576.jpg[/t] [t]http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8933/17217797.jpg[/t] But yeah, the helicopter you posted earlier is a cheap as shit attack helicopter, but it works and its cheap. [t]http://gallery.military.ir/albums/userpics/quos62koz23h79ha9y4.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=laserguided;38234456]Okay you are very difficult to have a conversation with. What part of they reverse engineer and built Cobra's do you not understand. They also reverse engineer and build F-5's. I'm just going to assume you arent willing to accept facts and move on.[/QUOTE] Look at it this way. I buy an used 1971 Dodge Challenger. I drive it for a couple years, brakes eventually wear down. I replace the brakes. I drive it some more, decide to install a new stereo. I give it a fresh paintjob, I put a GPS in it because that's handy; I might even replace a door 'cause it got damaged in a parking accident. At no point, however, did I build a Dodge Challenger. I repaired a Dodge Challenger. I upgraded and maintained a Dodge Challenger. But the Dodge Challenger still came from Dodge's factory, not from Rillsteel Industries Inc. The same way that Iran in 1975 got 202 AH1J TwinCobra gunships to help the US keep influence in the persian region. They lost a few in the Iran-Iraq war and in accidents, a few wore out, and they installed new cockpits and GPS systems in all the remaining ones. Never ever did they however make a new Cobra. That's why they're down to an estimated 50 by now. Because the others are no longer produced, no longer airworthy, and most likely scrapped for parts to keep the remaining 50 in the air.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234483]Look at it this way. I buy an used 1971 Dodge Challenger. I drive it for a couple years, brakes eventually wear down. I replace the brakes. I drive it some more, decide to install a new stereo. I give it a fresh paintjob, I put a GPS in it because that's handy; I might even replace a door 'cause it got damaged in a parking accident. At no point, however, did I build a Dodge Challenger. I repaired a Dodge Challenger. I upgraded and maintained a Dodge Challenger. But the Dodge Challenger still came from Dodge's factory, not from Rillsteel Industries Inc. The same way that Iran in 1975 got 202 AH1J TwinCobra gunships to help the US keep influence in the persian region. They lost a few in the Iran-Iraq war and in accidents, a few wore out, and they installed new cockpits and GPS systems in all the remaining ones. Never ever did they however make a new Cobra. That's why they're down to an estimated 50 by now. Because the others are no longer produced, no longer airworthy, and most likely scrapped for parts to keep the remaining 50 in the air.[/QUOTE] That isn't what I said though, I said they build their own Cobra's. I just gave you pictures of their production line what more do you want.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234361]That's not Iranian made. USA gave them Cobras pre-revolution, they just keep them airborne. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Iranian_Revolutionary_Guard_Air_Force_Shahed_285_Sharifi.jpg/640px-Iranian_Revolutionary_Guard_Air_Force_Shahed_285_Sharifi.jpg[/IMG] This is an Iranian helicopter.[/QUOTE] Haha, oh my god. It looks like its made out of fucking cardboard.

[QUOTE=laserguided;38234494]That isn't what I said though, I said they build their own Cobra's. I just gave you pictures of their production line what more do you want.[/QUOTE] Yeah, you gave me pictures of the UPGRADES. They replaced the cockpit, I said that too. The Panha 2091 upgrades are as follows: New cockpit armored panels New, Iranian-designed canopy New avionics Nose-mounted camera New cockpit design They upgraded old air frames with those changes. They did NOT build a new helicopter at any point.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234508]Yeah, you gave me pictures of the UPGRADES. They replaced the cockpit, I said that too. The Panha 2091 upgrades are as follows: New cockpit armored panels New, Iranian-designed canopy New avionics Nose-mounted camera New cockpit design They upgraded old air frames with those changes. They did NOT build a new helicopter at any point.[/QUOTE] Don't bother with this guy. [IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/Apache249/Welp.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Riller;38234508]Yeah, you gave me pictures of the UPGRADES. They replaced the cockpit, I said that too. The Panha 2091 upgrades are as follows: New cockpit armored panels New, Iranian-designed canopy New avionics Nose-mounted camera New cockpit design They upgraded old air frames with those changes. They did NOT build a new helicopter at any point.[/QUOTE] That is why there is a frame of a domestic cobra right there in the picture.

[QUOTE=Apache249;38234514]Don't bother with this guy. [IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/Apache249/Welp.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I will bother as much as I want, if he will at one point realize that it is the same airframes, same engines, same hulls flying around, with new cockpits, new weapons mounts and new avionics.

[QUOTE=Apache249;38234514]Don't bother with this guy. [IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/Apache249/Welp.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Well what are you doing right now..

[QUOTE=laserguided;38234516]That is why there is a frame of a domestic cobra right there in the picture.[/QUOTE] There is the frame of the domestically made cockpit for an US made cobra, yes.

IRAN! show pictures or it did not happen

Until they give details of what they took photos of, then I'm gonna remain skeptical.

[QUOTE=Riller;38234524]There is the frame of the domestically made cockpit for an US made cobra, yes.[/QUOTE] [url]http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9102113133[/url] Im done.