Mos Def Cancels US Tour After Being Denied Re-Entry Into the US - Polidicks

[quote]The rapper [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/music/mos-def"]Mos Def[/URL], now known as Yasiin Bey, has reportedly been denied entry into his native United States ahead of an upcoming tour.The Together music festival in Boston [URL="http://togetherboston.com/news-mos-def-cancels-upcoming-us-tour"]wrote on its website[/URL]: "We regret to inform you that due to immigration / legal issues Yasiin Bey is unable to enter back into the United States and his upcoming U.S. tour has been canceled." The details of the issues are unclear, but Bey no longer lives in the US having moved to South Africa. He recently [URL="http://www.rollingstone.co.za/musicrev/item/3171-from-brooklyn-to-bo-kaap"]told Rolling Stone about the move[/URL]: "I lived in Brooklyn 33 years of my life. I thought I'd be buried in that place. And around seven years ago, I was like, you know, 'I gotta go, I gotta leave.' It's very hard to leave. And I lived in a lot of places. Central America. North America. Europe for a while. And I came to Cape Town in 2009 and it just hit me. I was like, 'Yeah.' I know when a good vibe gets to you. And, you know, I thought about this place every day from when I left.[/quote] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/22/yasiin-bey-mos-def-cancels-tour-denied-entry-us[/url] how does this even happen

probably got lumped in the terrorism watch list for having a muslimey sounding name. that's how half of the no fly list is populated, just by people with similar names to known terrorist aliases fucking sucks they couldn't get it resolved, he is an american citizen

they're probably doing to get back at him for his gitmo forcefeeding protest

Fuck no. I loved that guy in Stylo and Sweepstakes.

Celebrities tend to not get lumped in that list nearly as much, but what probably happened is that his citizenship has already been revoked after not living in the US for a long time, so they won't let him reenter without a visa or something, which he probably thought he didn't need.

Most Definitely canceled

Well, makes sense to cancel the tour, I guess. Hope he can get back in soon. I like mos def. He seems like a cool dude, and he's a pretty good actor.

[QUOTE=Eltro102;44876874]they're probably doing to get back at him for his gitmo forcefeeding protest[/QUOTE] oh god I didn't know about this so I looked it up [B]WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK[/B] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/jul/08/mos-def-force-fed-guantanamo-bay-video[/url] this is fucked up like really fucked up [editline]22nd May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=SexualShark;44876930]Most Definitely canceled[/QUOTE] Ha

I hate to not jump to conclusions but could it just be that he has a paperwork issue since his name changed and he's been out of the US a while? I'm going through passport paperwork and a new greencard and I could see that it's a major hassle.

[QUOTE=Eltro102;44876874]they're probably doing to get back at him for his gitmo forcefeeding protest[/QUOTE] I can honestly see this being a response to Bey's criticism of the US government.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44876921]Celebrities tend to not get lumped in that list nearly as much, but what probably happened is that his citizenship has already been revoked after not living in the US for a long time, so they won't let him reenter without a visa or something, which he probably thought he didn't need.[/QUOTE] Is that a joke? They don't just decide to revoke your citizenship because you've been living somewhere else for a few years.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44876921]Celebrities tend to not get lumped in that list nearly as much, but what probably happened is that his citizenship has already been revoked after not living in the US for a long time, so they won't let him reenter without a visa or something, which he probably thought he didn't need.[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised, the US government refused M.I.A. a travel visa because of her politically charged lyrics back in '05.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44876921]Celebrities tend to not get lumped in that list nearly as much, but what probably happened is that his citizenship has already been revoked after not living in the US for a long time, so they won't let him reenter without a visa or something, which he probably thought he didn't need.[/QUOTE] you can't get citizenship revoked, though his passport may have expired, I would think his manager would be on top of that though, just seems like there's no reason he should be having problems, his wiki page says he was born in Brooklyn so he is an american citizen

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44877310]Is that a joke? They don't just decide to revoke your citizenship because you've been living somewhere else for a few years.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sableye;44877659]you can't get citizenship revoked, though his passport may have expired, I would think his manager would be on top of that though, just seems like there's no reason he should be having problems, his wiki page says he was born in Brooklyn so he is an american citizen[/QUOTE] It's not revoked because you live somewhere else for a few years, if you're a US citizen you're only allowed to be a citizen of one other country - that's it. Most other countries allow up to four others, but the US only allows one before they revoke it. In the article he said that he left the US a long time ago and lived in Europe and other places for a long time, so I just assumed that might be the case.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44877825]It's not revoked because you live somewhere else for a few years, if you're a US citizen you're only allowed to be a citizen of one other country - that's it. Most other countries allow up to four others, but the US only allows one before they revoke it. In the article he said that he left the US a long time ago and lived in Europe and other places for a long time, so I just assumed that might be the case.[/QUOTE] He lives in South Africa and is still technically a US citizen, there's no mention of him being a citizen of any other country.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44877889]He lives in South Africa and is still technically a US citizen, there's no mention of him being a citizen of any other country.[/QUOTE] [quote]And I lived in a lot of places. Central America. North America. Europe for a while.[/quote] He might have.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44876861]probably got lumped in the terrorism watch list for having a muslimey sounding name. that's how half of the no fly list is populated, just by people with similar names to known terrorist aliases fucking sucks they couldn't get it resolved, he is an american citizen[/QUOTE] "You say Mos Def, but I keep hearing death to America pall!"

[QUOTE=Sableye;44876861]probably got lumped in the terrorism watch list for having a muslimey sounding name. that's how half of the no fly list is populated, just by people with similar names to known terrorist aliases fucking sucks they couldn't get it resolved, he is an american citizen[/QUOTE] That's not true at all, to be on the no fly list you need to have some sort of connection to terrorist organizations. The vast majority of people with "muslimey" sounding names fly every day with no probems. Immigration/legal issues are not the same thing as being on the no fly list, that's an issue with customs which is a separate matter from the watch list. Someone with a "muslimey" name as you say, who has some vague/unclear/possible connections with terrorist organizations, may find themselves as a selectee for special screening but they can still fly. To be on the no fly list, you've done some shit to make America say fuck off. But just posting "I hate America" on Facebook and reading al-Qaeda's blog, will probably get you additional screening and supervision in American airports, but you're still allowed to fly. Matters with customs and immigration are entirely different from the watch list.

noooooooo Mos Def is a great rapper I have been waiting to see him. For those only unfamiliar with his music, here's my favorite track by him [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vw4ajnWGA[/media]

It's not because of his name or the Gitmo video. "Immigration/legal issues" can mean a lot of things. [quote]In 2006, Bey was in court in Brooklyn, New York, for failing to pay his estranged wife, Maria Yepes-Smith, $10,000 a month to support the couple's two daughters, according to the New York Post. At the hearing, he told the judge that he could not afford the monthly payments, citing business commitments and obligations to his other children[/quote] Speaking of rappers, MF DOOM has also been denied entry back into America because he was never a US citizen. Dude can't even live with his wife and kids right now.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44877825]It's not revoked because you live somewhere else for a few years, if you're a US citizen you're only allowed to be a citizen of one other country - that's it. Most other countries allow up to four others, but the US only allows one before they revoke it. In the article he said that he left the US a long time ago and lived in Europe and other places for a long time, so I just assumed that might be the case.[/QUOTE] Well living somewhere doesn't necessarily equal being a citizen of that country.

[QUOTE=Swiket;44882300]It's not because of his name or the Gitmo video. "Immigration/legal issues" can mean a lot of things. Speaking of rappers, MF DOOM has also been denied entry back into America because he was never a US citizen. Dude can't even live with his wife and kids right now.[/QUOTE] Who the fuck needs $120,000 a year in child support?

[QUOTE=Noss;44882516]Who the fuck needs $120,000 a year in child support?[/QUOTE] jeez that is enough money to support a family of 4 atleast

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44876921]Celebrities tend to not get lumped in that list nearly as much, but what probably happened is that his citizenship has already been revoked after not living in the US for a long time, so they won't let him reenter without a visa or something, which he probably thought he didn't need.[/QUOTE] Johnny Depp and Malcolm McDowell (McDowell isn't even a citizen afaik) get back in all the time, several times a year. Before this, Mos Def was in Chicago and New York three years ago with Hypnotic, and no one had any issue with it, he even went on a late night talk show in between performances. This is about Gitmo and his wife's issues/court appearances, period.

[QUOTE=soccerskyman;44876942]oh god I didn't know about this so I looked it up [B]WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK[/B] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/jul/08/mos-def-force-fed-guantanamo-bay-video[/url] this is fucked up like really fucked up [editline]22nd May 2014[/editline] Ha[/QUOTE] Fun facts about Gitmo detainees you didn't know. 1. Some Gitmo detainees will eat food all day, up to a certain point threshold. If detainees do not have enough nutrition points they will get an e-feed. This is a badge of honor for some. 2. Some detainees when they know they're being filmed will deliberately act out while receiving e-feed, some put their e-feeds in themselves. 3. Detainees receive an income payed for by taxes for being detained, since they are detainees and not prisoners. 4. The remaining detainees at Gitmo will probably be there until they die. No country wants to accept the remaining detainees into their country, leaving them in limbo. 5. Some of the country's that do accept detainees will execute them once they're out of the U.S.'s custody. This has happened before, and being the case the detainees prefer to stay in Gitmo so they...ya know don't get executed. There's a few "little did you knows".

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;44885986]Fun facts about Gitmo detainees you didn't know. 1. Some Gitmo detainees will eat food all day, up to a certain point threshold. If detainees do not have enough nutrition points they will get an e-feed. This is a badge of honor for some. 2. Some detainees when they know they're being filmed will deliberately act out while receiving e-feed, some put their e-feeds in themselves. 3. Detainees receive an income payed for by taxes for being detained, since they are detainees and not prisoners. 4. The remaining detainees at Gitmo will probably be there until they die. No country wants to accept the remaining detainees into their country, leaving them in limbo. 5. Some of the country's that do accept detainees will execute them once they're out of the U.S.'s custody. This has happened before, and being the case the detainees prefer to stay in Gitmo so they...ya know don't get executed. There's a few "little did you knows".[/QUOTE] None of these are all that shocking, given the power the US has and the fucked up torture they subject their detainees to (Waterboarding, stress positions, sleep deprivation, sexual harassment, sensory deprivation, hypo/hyperthermia, etc).

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;44877825]It's not revoked because you live somewhere else for a few years,[B] if you're a US citizen you're only allowed to be a citizen of one other country - that's it. [/B]Most other countries allow up to four others, but the US only allows one before they revoke it. In the article he said that he left the US a long time ago and lived in Europe and other places for a long time, so I just assumed that might be the case.[/QUOTE] That's not true at all. US law doesn't condone or prohibit multiple citizenship. You can be a citizen of as many countries as you want as long as their laws don't require you to renounce your current citizenship.