• Mass shootings may be caused by Autism and Psychosis but mostly Fedoras
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[URL="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/?p=4083&utm"]Discover[/URL] [quote]According to a new paper, mass shootings such as Sandy Hook and Aurora may be the result of Autism plus psychosis: A ‘one-two punch’ risk for tragic violence?[/quote] Unfortunately, the actual paper appears to be behind a paywall.
I got a better idea. Let's blame video games!!!
Great, all I need is to be psychotic and I become a school shooter. Woo for being half a mass murderer!
My girlfriend was reading a Jodi Picoult novel with a similar (I think) plot just a couple of days ago. How weird. And they'll have to be pretty careful with how they talk to the media about this, because this could totally be taken to be "Autistic people are mass-murderers waiting to happen!", which isn't the case.
Is autism going to be the new scapegoat/blame for everything now?
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;41224682]Is autism going to be the new scapegoat/blame for everything now?[/QUOTE] Except the paper states that autism isn't the [I]direct[/I] cause.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;41224662]this could totally be taken to be "Autistic people are mass-murderers waiting to happen!", which isn't the case.[/QUOTE] Also psychotics are more likely to be a danger to themselves than to other people
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;41224682]Is autism going to be the new scapegoat/blame for everything now?[/QUOTE] Apparently not because that's not what the article was saying.
This is just disgusting.
[QUOTE=Jocke;41224754]This is just disgusting.[/QUOTE] Why?
Then why was there no mass shooting at the minecraft convention?
[quote]The post-Newtown national discussion about mental health is distinctly double-edged, says Dr Schwartz. It may increase access to some programmes. But the debate is also being used by those with other motives. Mental illness is ubiquitous, he notes, with rates of schizophrenia or bipolar disorders more or less the same around the world, with some rare exceptions. Yet rates of gun violence differ dramatically between America and comparable countries. And those differences tally closely with differences in the accessibility of weapons. To Dr Schwartz the diagnosis is straightforward: "the NRA is demonising mental illness to distract from the obvious, in-your-face relationship between the availability of guns and murder rates."[/quote] [url]http://www.economist.com/blogs/lexington/2013/03/guns-and-mentally-ill[/url]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;41224768][url]http://www.economist.com/blogs/lexington/2013/03/guns-and-mentally-ill[/url][/QUOTE] Not really much to do with the article at hand.
[QUOTE=Patriarch;41224697]Except the paper states that autism isn't the [I]direct[/I] cause.[/QUOTE] I didn't say it was the only cause but it is sure as shit referenced all the time in reports such as these.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;41224775]Not really much to do with the article at hand.[/QUOTE] Why they're both about the relationship between shootings and mental health.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;41224819]I didn't say it was the only cause but it is sure as shit referenced all the time in reports such as these.[/QUOTE] Why are you against people investigating to see if there is a link between violence and autism?
[QUOTE=redBadger;41224611]I got a better idea. Let's blame video games!!![/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpr9K0LXgQg[/media]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;41224768][url]http://www.economist.com/blogs/lexington/2013/03/guns-and-mentally-ill[/url][/QUOTE] It goes without saying that mental instability isn't the sole cause of the US' excessive gun violence, but it certainly plays a heavy factor in the occasional mass shooting.
facepunch is a mass shooting breeding ground
heh, when people were blaming guns and video games, people were saying that mental state should be investigated look how the turntables have
I have no problem with this, being an asperger myself. An autistic-spectrum person bullied in school is already a volatile situation. Autistic persons can easily be turned into emotional wrecks with the wrong stimuli; add psychosis to the mix and you have an unstable powder keg. And with America's situation in regard to the widespread access to guns, that just aggravates the damage done when violence does erupt from such cases.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;41224867]It goes without saying that mental instability isn't the sole cause of the US' excessive gun violence, but it certainly plays a heavy factor in the occasional mass shooting.[/QUOTE] Well its kind of missing the point. Why don't psychotic autistic people in other countries shoot up schools?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;41224939]Discrediting the mental illness argument just because the NRA is one of the backers is stupid, a lot of the people responsible for these mass shootings had mental issues.[/QUOTE] no that wasnt the point the point was that theres dramatically more gun violence in the united states even though the united states has the same mental illness rates as the rest of the world
Hurrah some more yellow journalism.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;41225031]Hurrah some more yellow journalism.[/QUOTE] Well the author does state that it is a hypothesis and also shared his disdain for previous work from the publication. In fact that was the second paragraph; did you actually read the source?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;41224938]Well its kind of missing the point. Why don't psychotic autistic people in other countries shoot up schools?[/QUOTE] don't tempt the gun controllers please please
[QUOTE=NoDachi;41224938]Well its kind of missing the point. Why don't psychotic autistic people in other countries shoot up schools?[/QUOTE] They do: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_School_massacres[/url] Less than half of that list is in the US, though it deserves mention that almost all of the US school massacres on that list where done with firearms.
I'm no expert but doesn't it stand to reason that psychosis is the majority of the cause? I mean if you're completely out of touch with reality, that's the biggest step into doing something completely unreasonable like shooting kids.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;41225180]I'm no expert but doesn't it stand to reason that psychosis is the majority of the cause? I mean if you're completely out of touch with reality, that's the biggest step into doing something completely unreasonable like shooting kids.[/QUOTE] I think that might be what the paper is saying, just that the autism+psychosis combo is especially common in school massacres.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;41224938]Well its kind of missing the point. Why don't psychotic autistic people in other countries shoot up schools?[/QUOTE] Because they're not flooded with handguns. The US is with the circlejerking over second amendment. Yet People in the US blatantly ignore all the other amendments that are actually important. Selective attention span.
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