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I want to like this movie. I wanted to think that it was great, but I didn't.
I love Stanley Kubrick. I love Eyes Wide Shut, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining and Full Metal Jacket. The man is one of my favorite directors.
I recently watched this film of his and I honestly thought it was just...good. Just good; not great.
I love the "Dawn Of Man" and HAL sequences, but I just didn't get it. I will watch it again when I've done my research on it because I REALLY want to like it.
If anyone can explain the last 20 minutes to me I'd be very thankful.
As of now, this one gets a 7/10. I thought the acting was great, the characters were memorable and the special effects hold up even today.
What did everyone else think? again, if anyone can explain the latter part of the movie, I'd be in your debt.
The movie is about a species putting these monoliths in various parts of our solar system to gauge evolution. In essence, the movie is about a race to the monolith, because the first one to reach it (the humans, or HAL) is considered to be more "evolved". I think it's something like that.
After I watched this movie for the first time, it followed me around for days. Every bit of it lingered in my head. I kept saying "why did that happen, what did that mean?" (in regards to the end).
imo, the beauty of 2001 is that it can be interpreted in so many different ways. It touches on the dangers of technological advancement and artificial intelligence, it can be viewed as an allegory for the search for god, it shows the beauty in the progression of humankind. That's what I think a movie should be. Sort of like how if I look a famous painting I might see one thing and you might see another.
If I knew 100% what happened at the end and what it was about, it wouldn't be so special to me. That's just my outlook on the film.
In before "overrated" and "boring".
Saw this shit in 70mm. :3:
Pristine new print too.
[QUOTE=Colliseemoe;26630502]If I knew 100% what happened at the end and what it was about, it wouldn't be so special to me. That's just my outlook on the film.[/QUOTE]
Like the end of Inception.
[QUOTE=-Xemit-;26630576]I can see from your avatar that you like the movie.[/QUOTE]
It's my favorite.
[editline]11th December 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE={ABK}AbbySciuto;26630623]Like the end of Inception.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, kinda like that.
Didn't Kubrick himself refuse to talk about his intentions with it because it would ruin the movie or something?
I have read all of the books, the monoliths were left behind by an ancient species who had not discovered FTL travel, and had too short a lifespan to monitor the evolution of the worlds they visited. Thus, they left the monoliths behind to monitor and encourage the evolution of potential sentient life forms.
A very good read, I would recomend the books over the film any day, they are in so much more detail.
I'm sorry Dave
I'm afraid I can't let you do that
Dave.
Stop Dave.
I'm scared, Dave.
Loved this movie. Found it really dull, but interesting. I found the books really good, and really more entertaining which is surprising considering the movie and book are nearly identical in every way.
The books are really awesome, they're what got me to watch the movies.
If you guys want a better explanation of what happened everywhere in the movie(s), I say go and read the book(s).
I feel exactly the same as OP.
I think it's better once you've read the book. Then you actually understand what's going on.
I loved the movie because it pictures the space so realistic and harmonic with its "no sound in space" and Donauwalzer. I mean it's made 42 years ago and much of its effects are better than some movies in our time.
Just the start of the movie when he's travelling to the moon makes me feel all soft. It was amazingly well done. Pictured the world so optimistic and peaceful. I love it.
But that's also mainly because I like Arthur C Clarke's work overall. Someone should do a movie based on Rama.
I hate the works of Stanley Kubrick with a passion.
Except this one.
This is one of the greatest movies I have ever seen. It is the only movie that accurately reflects the immenseness of space, and it has that nice little twist to it that you have to love.
Just ask yourself; who went insane first? Dave or HAL? And then you're in for a world of amusement.
When watching it, I felt like I was watching 2 different movies. Not saying that was a bad thing, it's a fight with the AI and some evolution stuff. Also I watched it on TV so i took a quick bathroom break and when I came back he was going through some weird lightshow so I have no idea how he got there
[QUOTE=LemONPLaNE;26632097]I hate the works of Stanley Kubrick with a passion.
Except this one.
This is one of the greatest movies I have ever seen. It is the only movie that accurately reflects the immenseness of space, and it has that nice little twist to it that you have to love.
Just ask yourself; who went insane first? Dave or HAL? And then you're in for a world of amusement.[/QUOTE]
In the book it's HAL because he had two conflicting orders, which led to his decision to kill Dave.
People, get ready for some serious fucking shit:
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I watched this film loaded and sober, loaded was more eye opening. Especially the evolution scene.
[QUOTE=LemONPLaNE;26632097]I hate the works of Stanley Kubrick with a passion.
Except this one.
This is one of the greatest movies I have ever seen. It is the only movie that accurately reflects the immenseness of space, and it has that nice little twist to it that you have to love.
Just ask yourself; who went insane first? Dave or HAL? And then you're in for a world of amusement.[/QUOTE]
You didn't like Eyes Wide Shut?
A Clockwork Orange?
Not even Full Metal Jacket?
You monster.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;26632202]When watching it, I felt like I was watching 2 different movies. Not saying that was a bad thing, it's a fight with the AI and some evolution stuff. Also I watched it on TV so i took a quick bathroom break and when I came back he was going through some weird lightshow so I have no idea how he got there[/QUOTE]
[sp]He shutdown hal and found out that a monolith was on the moon, then he opened it and then the light show came on and made me think that i was on drugs[/sp]
You guys do know that the movie and book were written simultaneously right? Arthur C. Clarke and Stan both co-wrote both forms of the story. The sequel novels were ideas entirely created by Clarke.
Also, this is my favorite of Kubrick's films, and somewhere in my top five.
Fucking love Stanley Kubrick movies. He's an amazing director. This movie is one of his best too.
This movie is beautiful. It basically defined the sci-fi genre to me tbh.
[editline]12th December 2010[/editline]
Will you fucking stop Dave
[QUOTE=mrryanchisholm;26633475]You didn't like Eyes Wide Shut?
A Clockwork Orange?
Not even Full Metal Jacket?
You monster.[/QUOTE]
i loved all kubrick films except eyes wide shut which was just okay, and i hated dr strangelove
as for the rest, i loved them. especially the shining which is one of my all time favourites.
Neil Armstrong told Gene Siskel(the film critic) that 2001 was a movie that carefully depicted what it was like to travel in space. That's probably the best review a movie like this could get and i went in thinking it would be a masterpiece. I found out i wanted to be entertained whilst being intellectually stimulated but to me it seems this movie forgot about the entertainment part.
Its amazing how accurate it is, considering it was released before we even went to the moon.
[QUOTE=BmB;26630741]Didn't Kubrick himself refuse to talk about his intentions with it because it would ruin the movie or something?[/QUOTE]
Probably because he had no idea what he was doing when he made it.
You'll understand it better if you read the book, which is also fantastic.
No, Kubrick did pretty much spill his guts on a Playboy interview, but you could just check out the wiki entry or read the novel (which is just as awesome).
[quote][sp]Clarke's novel explicitly identifies the monolith as a tool created by an alien race that has been through many stages of evolution, moving from organic forms, through biomechanics, and finally has achieved a state of pure energy. These aliens travel the cosmos assisting lesser species to take evolutionary steps. The novel explains the hotel room sequence as a kind of alien zoo—fabricated from information derived from intercepted television transmissions from Earth—in which Dave Bowman is studied by the invisible alien entities. Kubrick's film leaves all this unstated.[/sp][/quote]
I think him leaving this unstated gives a sort of mystery surrounding the film and makes it more of an experience.
And Kubrick always knew what he was doing.
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