More than 100,000 attend anti-gay marriage protests across France, as counter-protests also held
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[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/17/france-gaymarriage-idUSL5E8MH3X820121117[/url]
[quote=AFP]More than 100,000 people turned out Saturday across France for rallies against government plans to approve same-sex marriage and adoption, as police clashed with counter-demonstrators in one city.
Wearing pink scarves and T-shirts and carrying pink balloons with the image of a man and woman holding two children's hands, demonstrators marched against reforms planned by the socialist government.
They marched under banners that carried slogans such as "Pro-marriage, not anti-gay" and "Long live the true family". A Roman Catholic humorist who goes by the name of "Frigide Barjot" opened the Paris protest.
"We are born from a man and a woman," she told the crowd through a megaphone. "A child is the result of a man and a woman's orgasm."
Some 70,000 people joined the Paris rally, police said -- though organisers put the figure at 200,000 -- with more than 30,000 others holding similar protests in towns around the country.
In the southeastern city of Lyon, 22,000 people protested, police said. Officers there detained around 40 youths who had come to oppose the main rally.
And police in the southwestern city of Toulouse used tear gas against a group of several hundred activists who tried to confront the main rally of several thousand in a counter-protest.
Up to 8,000 marched in the southern city of Marseille, where they too were confronted by supporters of gay marriage. There were other protests in the northwestern towns of Rennes and Nantes, and in the northern town of Laon.
Women's rights minister and government spokeswoman Najat Vallaud-Belkacem defended the right of homosexuals to marry and to adopt as representing progress for everyone.
She said there had been a similar uproar when France backed civil marriages for gay couples 14 years earlier, yet this had since been accepted.
Parliament would in any case consult widely on the issue and this would be the time for debate, she added, warning against against excess and polemic.
French President Francois Hollande's government has come under fire from Catholic groups and the right-wing opposition over the bill.
The marches came as Pope Benedict XVI called on the French church Saturday to make its voice heard on social issues.
Organisations backing the rallies included a group of homosexuals opposed to the bill called More Gay Without Marriage; a leftwing group called Left for Republican Marriage; and a French Muslim group called Sons of France.
Anti-abortion group Alliance Vita also backed the campaign.
In Paris, protesters brandished posters with slogans such as "Homo marriage is wrong, long live the true family" and "Everyone comes from a man and a woman".
Protester Beatrice Bodji said she had come because "children are taken hostage" if same-sex marriage and adoption are allowed.
"It's scandalous that the government wants to institutionalise a state lie by hiding the fact that the basis of every child is a dad and a mom," Jean-Marie Barbiche, who came with his wife and four children, told AFP.
Fanny Neige and Anais, two homosexual counter-demonstrators, staged a rally of their own; kissing each other in front of the crowd.
"We'll start a family whether they want us to or not," said Fanny Neige.
Another demonstration against gay marriage has been called in Paris for Sunday by the Catholic organisation Civitas.
And the campaigners intend to keep up the pressure, with more demonstrations called for January 13.[/quote]
clito dildo?
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My french is a bit rusty but doesn't this message say "Gays can't have kids, thus they shouldn't marry" or something along those lines.
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No wait, it's more like "A dad, a mom - gender equality for children". Eh. Or something. I dunno.
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MaxofS2D get in here help me [I]UNDERSTAND [/I]the [B]SIGNS[/B]
god this is fucking retarded
it really is. i mean ok everyone can have their opinion obviously but
fucking seriously if this was the 1950's it'd be the exact same thing just black people
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;38492937]My french is a bit rusty but doesn't this message say "Gays can't have kids, thus they shouldn't marry" or something along those lines.
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No wait, it's more like "A dad, a mom - gender equality for children". Eh. Or something. I dunno.
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MaxofS2D get in here help me [I]UNDERSTAND [/I]the [B]SIGNS[/B][/QUOTE]
yeah it says a dad, a mom - equality for infants
That red-head is very attractive
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why would u want to deny infants EQUALITY?!
fascists
lol owned by socialists
get used to equality social conservative scrubs
[QUOTE=thisispain;38493022]yeah it says a dad, a mom - equality for infants[/QUOTE]
Does the sign in the other picture say something about babies in freezers
I'm confused.
This may be a bit random, but as an American who only has international news to rely on for this shit, but this goes to all French Facepunchers:
How [B]is[/B] France doing right now? Economically, socially, just, overall? We used to be such best buds France, beating up the Brits, making monuments for each other, bailing each other out of mindless wars.. I miss the good old days :C
I'm completely unable to comprehend why people are against gay marriage and gay rights in general. I could understand being indifferent if you truly don't care, but physically protesting against something that has absolutely no effect on you is just mindbogglingly ridiculous.
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That sign on the left is pretty agressive..
Roughly translate to : Babies in freezer is not hetero's privilege.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;38493367]I'm completely unable to comprehend why people are against gay marriage and gay rights in general. I could understand being indifferent if you truly don't care, but physically protesting against something that has absolutely no effect on you is just mindbogglingly ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they want to defend their religious view?
They're completely entitled to do that.
They need to suck it up and deal with it
[QUOTE=Coffee;38493608]Maybe they want to defend their religious view?
They're completely entitled to do that.[/QUOTE]
they're still bigots and use religion to try and justify their hatred of homosexuality
they disgust me
[QUOTE=The golden;38493725]Their religious view does not entitle them to effect the lives of other people.
If they think that it does then they can fuck right off.[/QUOTE]
free speech entitles them to voice their opinion on the matter.
[QUOTE=Coffee;38493760]free speech entitles them to voice their opinion on the matter.[/QUOTE]
i certainly wouldn't call their speech free. seems they're all indoctrinated by a thousand-year old institution of hate and bigotry
[QUOTE=Coffee;38493608]Maybe they want to defend their religious view?
They're completely entitled to do that.[/QUOTE]
Where's the evidence to say that everyone there is religious?
[QUOTE=Coffee;38493608]Maybe they want to defend their religious view?
They're completely entitled to do that.[/QUOTE]
what?
this is france
if you don't like someone's opinion you stab them in their fucking baths
[QUOTE=Wiggles;38493367]I'm completely unable to comprehend why people are against gay marriage and gay rights in general. I could understand being indifferent if you truly don't care, but physically protesting against something that has absolutely no effect on you is just mindbogglingly ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
the same reason why they were against blacks before the 60's...
ignorance
[QUOTE=Coffee;38493760]free speech entitles them to voice their opinion on the matter.[/QUOTE]
Fair, but we still have the right to say their opinion is wrong and they're stupid.
catholic associations are leaving anti-gay leaflets on cars now
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;38494105]catholic associations are leaving anti-gay leaflets on cars now[/QUOTE]
Auuuuugh fuck that shit
I'd follow them around at least 50 feet away and collect all the leaflets. Good tinder.
you should see what they do in anti-gay protests
they get a man in a pink bodysuit who's fumbling around like he's drunk because he has paper wings but his paper wings don't work because one is the mom and one is the dad and i don't remember but apparently it's a metaphor about how gay families will doom france
Pathetic, basically the reason they don't want this is because, in their eyes, a child needs a father and a mother, not 2 fathers / 2 mothers, because he "won't have a normal childhood", there's just as much chance to have the parents not be good parents as any classic couples, if anything, there's MORE chance the problems will come from the OUTSIDE if the parents are of the same gender.
[QUOTE=Coffee;38493608]Maybe they want to defend their religious view?
They're completely entitled to do that.[/QUOTE]
Of course they're free to voice their opinion, but it's hard to not get mad at such bigoted views.
[QUOTE=Bragdras;38494181]Pathetic, basically the reason they don't want this is because, in their eyes, a child needs a father and a mother, not 2 fathers / 2 mothers, because he "won't have a normal childhood", there's just as much chance to have the parents not be good parents as any classic couples, if anything, there's MORE chance the problems will come from the OUTSIDE if the parents are of the same gender.[/QUOTE]They're in fucking FRANCE. You can't have a normal childhood in France. France sucks.
At least your rallies are somewhat better than the ones in the United States. People get kind of scary here.
[QUOTE=Noss;38493637]they're still bigots and use religion to try and justify their hatred of homosexuality
they disgust me[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that their religion is the cause of their homophobia, not a symptom.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;38496596]I'm pretty sure that their religion is the cause of their homophobia, not a symptom.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Religion is their excuse.
[QUOTE=archangel125;38496635]I disagree. Religion is their excuse.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the majority of today's religions are against gay marriage/gays in general.
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