• Realistic pellet gun wielding 8th grader gunned down.
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[release](CBS/AP) BROWNSVILLE, Texas - Police say the weapon a Texas eighth-grader pointed at officers in a school hallway before they killed him was a pellet gun that looked like a real handgun. Interim Brownsville Police Chief Orlando Rodriguez says 15-year-old Jaime Gonzalez had "plenty of opportunities" to lower the weapon but "didn't want to." Rodriguez says two officers fired three shots and struck Gonzalez at least twice. Police are awaiting the results of an autopsy. Police kill armed 8th-grader in Texas school Rodriguez says that before the confrontation with police, Gonzalez walked into a Cummings Middle School classroom and punched another boy in the nose. He says he doesn't know why Gonzalez brandished the weapon but that the initial call to police said a student had a gun. Brownsville school district officials said administrators immediately called police after Gonzalez brandished a weapon about 8 a.m., shortly after classes started at Cummings Middle School. When police arrived, the student "engaged" the officers and was shot, district spokeswoman Drue Brown said in an emailed statement.[/release] source: [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57352546/8th-grader-killed-by-texas-police-had-pellet-gun/[/url] video report: [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/eighth-grader-killed-by-officers-had-pellet-gun/2012/01/04/gIQAAGgWbP_video.html[/url] sorry that this is late.. must have slipped to page 2 when i posted it. sorry about that, FP. [editline]343[/editline] actually, this isn't late. the police just figured out he was holding a pellet gun. not a real gun. sorry again, FP.
Huh. Terrible thing to happen, but it really seems like it was the kids fault. I mean, punching a kid in the nose and then holding out a pellet gun with the appearance of a real one? I still bet there was some way to prevent it, though.
It was a pellet gun? I thought he was brandishing a real firearm?
[QUOTE=Repulsion;34057372] I still bet there was some way to prevent it, though.[/QUOTE] There's always a better way to handle a situation but I can understand why the officer made the decision and I can imagine once they learned that it was a pellet gun they feel like complete shit.
Someone beat you to it. [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1152748[/url]
[QUOTE=tier56;34057377]It was a pellet gun? I thought he was brandishing a real firearm?[/QUOTE] nope, a report just got released saying it was a pellet gun.
[QUOTE=Leonmyster;34057389]Someone beat you to it. [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1152748[/url][/QUOTE] Read the fucking op.
Meh, natural selection due to stupidity
Good god that is horrible.
[QUOTE=Xieneus;34057404]Good god that is horrible.[/QUOTE] i can't sympathize. he first was stupid enough to bring a realistic looking pellet gun (that happens to look like a glock) to a school, and then aims it at cops? deserved it.
[B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] Smug bastard being an idiot as usual. Nothing to see here, folks.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] That's not how it works. Pointing a gun at someone means that at any second you can make that person you are pointing the gun at dead. Oh and tazers are not as easy to use as you think. And they don't have the range of a gun.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] Firing three shots isn't "gunning down".
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] You're right, they should let armed students start shooting at police and other students before shooting them.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] The kid aimed a gun at the police and they reacted as they should. It may have been a pellet gun, but how are they supposed to know that?
I don't really see how anyone but the kid is at fault here. It's a damn shame we lost someone way too young to die, but what he did was incredibly stupid and he had to know better than this. He waved what was believed to be a weapon at cops, they can't just let that happen without firing on the kid. I'm sure there are ways they could have prevented it but in a moment like that you have to do what you think was best on the spot.
kids fault.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] Shut the fuck up, he AIMED it at the police, and nobody could tell if it was a real gun in the first place. That whole, "ill let them fire at me first!!" argument is shit.
Didn't read that he actually pointed the gun. I seem to be illiterate, sorry guys.
[QUOTE=Soldier32;34057383]There's always a better way to handle a situation but I can understand why the officer made the decision and I can imagine once they learned that it was a pellet gun they feel like complete shit.[/QUOTE] No. I mean, I can understand feeling like shit for having to do it, but not because of the situation. I have talked to a cop who had to deal with a situation like this. They found the pellet gun after they arrested the guy and the cop said that the gun looked real and if the person holding it pointed it at him he would not hesitate to draw his weapon and fire to prevent harm. There is no better way to handle that. If you are not a cop then you don't understand that in your line of work that people are out to get you. If someone holds a gun towards you, you can't just stand there for say, "Oh, i'm sure its just a harmless bar of soap carved into a gun." You have to take it as a serious threat. If you are dumb enough to brandish something that looks like a gun towards a police officer, you realize what risk you are taking.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] You pull a gun you should have every intention of firing. If one gets pulled on you, you expect a hail of bullets to be next. Cops were in the right.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] Read your post saying you saw he pointed the gun. Retracting my statement.
Natural selection?
Lol bet America is going to put a new law on pellet guns now
Wow, a pellet gun, still if it's realistic looking, of course people are going to mistake it. This boy knew exactly what he was getting himself into, school shooting aren't a joke and happen way too often in the US.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] You do realize why we use tazers right? it causes your muscles to seize up and twitch. What happens if someones who is wholding a gun has his finger in the trigger guard? When he's tazed his hand will most likely pull the trigger. You don't take risks or play around when you're going up against someone who you think has a firearm.
Real gun or not, the kid deserved it. Maybe not to die, but to be neutralized, definitely. A bit sad to throw your life away for something that stupid, though.
What an idiot.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;34057424][B]YOU DON'T FUCKING GUN DOWN A FUCKING PERSON THAT'S NOT FUCKING FIRING IN ANY FUCKING WAY. [/B]Could've tased him at the very most, Jesus fucking Christ.[/QUOTE] yeah they clearly should have waited for him to open fire and wound one of them before they deemed him a threat this was an extremely unfortunate incident for all parties involved, but the kid was a fucking idiot
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