Get your very own Lenin statue for only $300! - Mongolian capital's historical statue for sale - Polidicks

[quote]Ulan-Bator, the capital of Mongolia, has removed its last bronze statue of Vladimir Lenin, denouncing the communist leader as a "murderer". The monument was hoisted from its plinth in a park and dropped on to the back of a flat-bed lorry at a ceremony attended by city mayor Bat-Uul Erdene. During the Cold War, Mongolia was effectively a Soviet satellite state. Mr. Bat-Uul said the statue would be auctioned off with a starting price of about $280 (£174; 216 euros). In a 10-minute speech, he denounced Lenin and his fellow communists as "murderers". Mongolia had suffered at the hands of the communists but had moved on to create an open society, he added. For decades Vladimir Lenin was worshipped by Mongolian schoolchildren as Teacher Lenin, the BBC's Michael Kohn reports from Ulan-Bator. In 1990 the country abandoned its one-party state system and embraced political and economic reforms. A crowd of around 300 people gathered to watch the statue being taken down. A few threw old shoes at it to display their distaste at the former Soviet leader. Many statues of Lenin, who died in 1924, remain standing around Russia and other countries once under Soviet control.[/quote] It's going to be replaced by a memorial to the people who died in the riots of 2008. Source: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19940437[/url]

Shipping fees would be a disaster. Pretty cool though.

I would buy it and place it in a museum if I could.

I've been meaning to buy a new paperweight

I'll tale two for my front garden.

[quote]denouncing the communist leader as a "murderer".[/quote] lenin is a murderer now?

pay $300 for the statue, pay $1500 for the shipping

I'll take eight.

[QUOTE=Bobie;38035703]lenin is a murderer now?[/QUOTE] Probably not directly.

[QUOTE=Bobie;38035703]lenin is a murderer now?[/QUOTE] well, yeah. lol. ordered the killings of most of the previous russian royalty, prodrazvyorskta, etc [editline]14th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;38035806]Probably not directly.[/QUOTE] by that argument no head of state is "directly" a murderer being an indirect murderer is still being a murderer lol

Gonna buy it, and place it in front if my house.

I actually would buy it if the shipping wouldn't be so terrible

[QUOTE=Bobie;38035703]lenin is a murderer now?[/QUOTE] there's nothing remotely controversial about saying he was a murderer

good

This is going on my christmas list.

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;38036019] by that argument no head of state is "directly" a murderer being an indirect murderer is still being a murderer lol[/QUOTE] And by that logic every head of state is a murderer.

[QUOTE=Bobie;38035703]lenin is a murderer now?[/QUOTE] He signed off lists and lists of people to be executed between 1917 to 1920s. If you think differently, you know nothing of Lenin nor the Russian Revolution.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38036439]And by that logic every head of state is a murderer.[/QUOTE] Well yes, it's part of the job description.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38036482]Well yes, it's part of the job description.[/QUOTE] So isn't denouncing Lenin as a murderer meaningless since they are all murderers? It's the pot calling the kettle black, really.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38036508]So isn't denouncing Lenin as a murderer meaningless since they are all murderers? It's the pot calling the kettle black, really.[/QUOTE] He was more of a murderer than most. Like, the average head of state might only have a few thousand deaths on their hands, not hundreds of thousands.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38036573]He was more of a murderer than most. Like, the average head of state might only have a few thousand deaths on their hands, not hundreds of thousands.[/QUOTE] Does that make Lincoln also "more of a murder"?

I don't know why but if I somehow got that statue I'd place it near the public lake park down the hill next to my house just to fuck with people :v:

Well there is a difference between being head of an organisation that kills and directly signing orders to kill.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38036313]there's nothing remotely controversial about saying he was a murderer[/QUOTE] he approved tens of thousands of executions, by that logic any military personnel, head of state, judge that orders the death penalty is a murderer. i thought the context ulan-bator was referring to was the more commonly known form of murder, the one you carry out in person.

I'd put that in my front yard, seriously.

[QUOTE=RankaLee;38036753]I don't know why but if I somehow got that statue I'd place it near the public lake park down the hill next to my house just to fuck with people :v:[/QUOTE] I think your post would have more humor if we knew where you lived.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;38037217]Wait, I thought murder strictly applied to [I]illegal[/I] and spiteful killing. I don't think he would deem his own actions as illegal.[/QUOTE] murder is malicious killing, not illegal killing. you're thinking criminal homicide

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38036439]And by that logic every head of state is a murderer.[/QUOTE] By that logic anyone who has any sort of leadership in the military is a murderer.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;38037217]Wait, I thought murder strictly applied to [I]illegal[/I] and spiteful killing. I don't think he would deem his own actions as illegal.[/QUOTE] So murder isn't murder if it's legal?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;38037249]So murder isn't murder if it's legal?[/QUOTE] Technically, no. It's all killing, but if you start getting into semantics, murder is specifically unlawful killing with malicious forethought. For instance, killing someone in self-defense is [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide]justifiable homicide[/url], not murder.