iPhone owner suffers 3rd degree burns after his phone spontaneously combusted in his pocket
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[QUOTE]A Long Island man said he suffered a football-sized third-degree burn when his iPhone exploded in his pocket while he was on his way to a funeral.
Erick Johnson, of Lindenhurst, spent 10 days in the hospital after his iPhone spontaneously combusted on Valentine’s Day, his lawyer told the Daily News.
Johnson and his brother were on their way to their 25-year-old cousin’s wake, said personal injury lawyer Mike Della, with Gruenberg Kelly Della. Johnson parked his cars and dropped his keys while he got out. When the 29-year-old bent down to pick them up, he heard a pop in his pocket, where he kept his iPhone 5C, Della said.
Then, Johnson felt his leg burning.
“He panicked. Started ripping off his pants,” Della said. “His brother ran over and he said he could smell the flesh burning.”[/QUOTE]
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Lawsuit incoming. Looks like the battery burst, which is bad, guy is lucky he had that case on the phone or it would have been much worse.
[QUOTE=draugur;47228570]Lawsuit incoming. Looks like the battery burst, which is bad, guy is lucky he had that case on the phone or it would have been much worse.[/QUOTE]
Which is silly. One random failure like this should never be grounds for a lawsuit. Shit happens. Thinks break. Yeah, it sucks that he's got third degree burns, but that doesn't mean he should sue. Apple is not liable for random failures. No company that makes things is.
[QUOTE=TestECull;47228625]Which is silly. One random failure like this should never be grounds for a lawsuit. Shit happens. Thinks break. Yeah, it sucks that he's got third degree burns, but that doesn't mean he should sue. Apple is not liable for random failures. No company that makes things is.[/QUOTE]
I mean they kind of are responsible. Lol.
That's like a car exploding and it not being their fault.
[QUOTE=TestECull;47228625]Which is silly. One random failure like this should never be grounds for a lawsuit. Shit happens. Thinks break. Yeah, it sucks that he's got third degree burns, but that doesn't mean he should sue. Apple is not liable for random failures. No company that makes things is.[/QUOTE]
I never said the lawsuit was a good thing, the lawsuit is the result of a guy being horribly injured, that is far from good. It's an accident and that sucks for everyone involved, mostly the burn victim, but still. that lawsuit is going to make someone rich, or at least pay for his medical bills.
[QUOTE=TestECull;47228625]Which is silly. One random failure like this should never be grounds for a lawsuit. Shit happens. Thinks break. Yeah, it sucks that he's got third degree burns, but that doesn't mean he should sue. Apple is not liable for random failures. No company that makes things is.[/QUOTE]
It's not one. There's been enough reports of iPhone batteries bubbling or bursting into flames. He suffered bodily harm from Apple's device so I'm sure Apple should give him a decent sum as compensation.
[QUOTE=TestECull;47228625]Which is silly. One random failure like this should never be grounds for a lawsuit. Shit happens. Thinks break. Yeah, it sucks that he's got third degree burns, but that doesn't mean he should sue. Apple is not liable for random failures. No company that makes things is.[/QUOTE]
He sustained injury under normal operation of a device in a failure that was in no way his fault. He should at least be able to sue for his medical bills.
[QUOTE=Dougz;47228509]A Long Island man said he suffered a [B]football-sized third-degree burn[/B] when his iPhone exploded in his pocket while he was on his way to a funeral.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that leg's coming off.
[QUOTE=TestECull;47228625]Which is silly. One random failure like this should never be grounds for a lawsuit. Shit happens. Thinks break. Yeah, it sucks that he's got third degree burns, but that doesn't mean he should sue. Apple is not liable for random failures. No company that makes things is.[/QUOTE]
You're not the one with permanent burns on your leg.
[quote]When the 29-year-old bent down to pick them up, he heard a pop in his pocket, where he kept his iPhone 5C, Della said.[/quote]
[quote]In October, an Arizona man claimed his iPhone burned through his pocket and his boxers after it bent during a minor rickshaw accident. Last year, a Maine eighth-grader said her iPhone exploded after she sat down with it in her back pocket.[/quote]
Breaking news, mechanical stress on a lithium cell causes it to voilently fail. Who would of guessed? v:v:v
Apple's been criticized and sued for years regarding how flimsy their products were. They'll change nothing so long as their RDF keeps running.
[quote]Johnson and his brother were on their way to their 25-year-old cousin’s wake, said personal injury lawyer Mike Della, with Gruenberg Kelly Della. Johnson parked his cars and dropped his keys while he got out. When the 29-year-old bent down to pick them up, he heard a pop in his pocket, where he kept his iPhone 5C, Della said.[/quote]
them feels when you read this article on an iPhone 5C
[QUOTE=TestECull;47228625]Which is silly. One random failure like this should never be grounds for a lawsuit. Shit happens. Thinks break. Yeah, it sucks that he's got third degree burns, but that doesn't mean he should sue. Apple is not liable for random failures. No company that makes things is.[/QUOTE]
It's happened before, so a lawsuit is perfectly in order.
[QUOTE=pentium;47228831]Breaking news, mechanical stress on a lithium cell causes it to voilently fail. Who would of guessed? v:v:v[/QUOTE]
[quote] Last year, a Maine [b]eighth-grader[/b] said her iPhone exploded after she sat down with it in her back pocket[/quote]
Probably not an eight grader.
Couldn't this be dismissed by saying that the case caused it in some way?
[QUOTE=TestECull;47228625]Which is silly. One random failure like this should never be grounds for a lawsuit. Shit happens. Thinks break. Yeah, it sucks that he's got third degree burns, but that doesn't mean he should sue. Apple is not liable for random failures. No company that makes things is.[/QUOTE]
You think lawsuits like this are silly? Some women sued McDonalds for around $3 million because she spilt hot coffee on her lap.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;47228895]You think lawsuits like this are silly? Some women sued McDonalds for around $3 million because she spilt hot coffee on her lap.[/QUOTE]
Hot coffee that caused third-degree burns and sent her to the hospital for eight days to undergo skin grafting.
[QUOTE=Swiket;47228905]Hot coffee that caused third-degree burns and sent her to the hospital for eight days to undergo skin grafting.[/QUOTE]
No, I can understand that she wanted her medical bills ($10,500) to get paid, but its stupid because it was her fault for putting the coffee between her legs and ripping the lid off and spilling it rather than McDonalds. I don't buy coffee from Starbucks and take a sip and go "Oh fuck, I had no idea that coffee is hot. I'm going to sue Starbucks!".
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;47228922]No, I can understand that she wanted her medical bills ($10,500) to get paid, but its stupid because it was her fault for putting the coffee between her legs and ripping the lid off and spilling it rather than McDonalds. I don't buy coffee from Starbucks and take a sip and go "Oh fuck, I had no idea that coffee is hot. I'm going to sue Starbucks!".[/QUOTE]
I think McDonalds serving coffee at a temperature capable of inflicting third degree burns with, at the time, little to no warning, puts at least a tiny bit of the fault with them
If I remember right it was something like ~5% of the total skin on her body was subject to third-degree burns and ~15% of her skin received lesser burns, and she lost around twenty pounds while hospitalized, that's some pretty heavy shit for a seventy-something year old woman
The cause of the spill was that she removed the lid in order to put cream and sugar in the coffee and accidentally spilled it, the reason for it being in her lap was that the vehicle she was in didn't have cup holders, maybe that wasn't the most clever thing to do, but I don't think she was expecting her coffee to be [I]literally scalding[/I]
[QUOTE=Sitkero;47228979]I think McDonalds serving coffee at a temperature capable of inflicting third degree burns with, at the time, little to no warning, puts at least a tiny bit of the fault with them
If I remember right it was something like ~5% of the total skin on her body was subject to third-degree burns and ~15% of her skin received lesser burns, and she lost around twenty pounds while hospitalized, that's some pretty heavy shit for a seventy-something year old woman
The cause of the spill was that she removed the lid in order to put cream and sugar in the coffee and accidentally spilled it, the reason for it being in her lap was that the vehicle she was in didn't have cup holders, maybe that wasn't the most clever thing to do, but I don't think she was expecting her coffee to be [I]literally scalding[/I][/QUOTE]
Yeah, I agree. The problem with this case is that she wasn't really using the product in a safe manner. The other problem is that McDonalds refused to compensate her so it led to a huge court case.
There is also that fact that a cup of coffee is and always will be a [highlight]hot[/highlight] beverage, much like if you buy a phone as thin as a wafer cookie you should expect it to be just as fragile as a wafer cookie when put in your pocket.
In other words, dumb people want money for doing dumb things and you can't say no because [i]the customer is always right,[/i], no longer by corporate belief but by law. This doesn't allow companies to get away with making cheap and shitty products but any company can go so far (that includes Apple weather we hate them or not) before it is up to the end user to understand what they are doing or holding can have several different outcomes and it is up to [them] to not injure themselves.
[QUOTE=pentium;47229042]There is also that fact that that coffee is and always will be a [highlight]hot[/highlight] beverage, much like if you buy a phone as thin as a wafer cookie you should expect it to be just as fragile as a wafer cookie when put in your pocket.
In other words, dumb people want money for doing dumb things and you can't say no because [i]the customer is always right,[/i], no longer by corporate belief but by law.[/QUOTE]
I do not expect my phone to get damaged in my pocket and cause serious burns or other damage to my flesh. Being hot is a feature of coffee, exploding batteries is a problematic side effect. If your device fucking explodes, the creator should at least compensate the damages.
[QUOTE=pentium;47229042]There is also that fact that a cup of coffee is and always will be a [highlight]hot[/highlight] beverage, much like if you buy a phone as thin as a wafer cookie you should expect it to be just as fragile as a wafer cookie when put in your pocket.
In other words, dumb people want money for doing dumb things and you can't say no because [i]the customer is always right,[/i], no longer by corporate belief but by law.[/QUOTE]
Sorry what? A thin metal object should be expected to be as fragile as a weak, brittle object? The point isn't even that sitting on your phone causes damage to the phone. That's understandable. The point is that sitting on your phone causes it to fucking explode, which is not something your average joe is going to expect.
[QUOTE=pentium;47229042]There is also that fact that a cup of coffee is and always will be a [highlight]hot[/highlight] beverage, much like if you buy a phone as thin as a wafer cookie you should expect it to be just as fragile as a wafer cookie when put in your pocket.
In other words, dumb people want money for doing dumb things and you can't say no because [i]the customer is always right,[/i], no longer by corporate belief but by law.[/QUOTE]
That's right everybody, stop misusing your phone! No more:
- Keeping phones in your pockets
- Expecting your phone not to explode
- Letting your phone exist
Thank you for obeying Apple's iPhone 5C user guidelines.
[QUOTE=pentium;47229042]There is also that fact that a cup of coffee is and always will be a [highlight]hot[/highlight] beverage, much like if you buy a phone as thin as a wafer cookie you should expect it to be just as fragile as a wafer cookie when put in your pocket.
In other words, dumb people want money for doing dumb things and you can't say no because [i]the customer is always right,[/i], no longer by corporate belief but by law.[/QUOTE]
are you fucking retarded.
who makes coffee that is so hot as to cause third degree burns. where are warning labels on phones stating not to keep them in your pocket else they might explode? why the hell is anyone making a phone that can't handle the stress of being in a pocket to the point where it could literally explode? do you seriously see this as "dumbass customer just wants money for shit lmao"
Just so you guys know generally boiled water is used to make coffee. Which is over 200 degrees Fahrenheit when the McDonalds coffee was only made to be 185 degrees. So the coffee was not as hot as the coffee you make at home in your jug.
[QUOTE=alexguydude;47228648]I mean they kind of are responsible. Lol.
That's like a car exploding and it not being their fault.[/QUOTE]
One failed item is not a liability suit. If this was a common thing where hundreds of thousands of phones were prone to it because of a clear manufacturing or design defect, then yes, they should be held liable. But [b]one[/b] phone failing in this manner?
I honestly think it's only a news article because it's an iPhone. This could have happened to any phone with a lithium battery in it. My Droid 3 is just as prone to what happened here(Which is pretty clearly stress from flexing causing the battery to rupture) as that iPhone is, and if my Droid 3 happens to roast my left butt cheek in the same way it's not Motorola's fault.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47229056]I do not expect my phone to get damaged in my pocket and cause serious burns or other damage to my flesh. Being hot is a feature of coffee, exploding batteries is a problematic side effect. If your device fucking explodes, the creator should at least compensate the damages.[/QUOTE]
Again, Apple has been known for at least two generations of iPhone, at least one generation of iPod and at least one generation of MacBook that their cases are flimsy and WILL bend (it's the expense of making electronic devices extremely thin). Even if you aren't following Apple daily you've at least seen one of the many articles covering how easily some of their products bend or break immediately after their commercial release. It always goes viral.
Again, it's Apple but they can only go so far. It's up to the user to determine if it's a device suitable for them or if they'll undoubtedly break it with regular use. It's like buying a Fiat 500 for hauling large trailers and then blaming Fiat for selling them a car whose engine constantly overheats.
[quote]why the hell is anyone making a phone that can't handle the stress of being in a pocket to the point where it could literally explode? do you seriously see this as "dumbass customer just wants money for shit lmao" [/quote]
Additional Apple RDF bias:
Apple's customers are generally retarded.
[quote]who makes coffee that is so hot as to cause third degree burns.[/quote]
Put your arm out and let me pour some fresh brewed coffee out of the pot made from the machine in my kitchen. Does that hurt?
[QUOTE=pentium;47229076]Again, Apple has been known for at least two generations of iPhone, at least one generation of iPod and at least one generation of MacBook that their cases are flimsy and WILL bend (it's the expense of making electronic devices extremely thin). Even if you aren't following Apple daily you've at least seen one of the many articles covering how easily some of their products bend or break immediately after their commercial release. It always goes viral.
Again, it's Apple but they can only go so far. It's up to the user to determine if it's a device suitable for them or if they'll undoubtedly break it with regular use. It's like buying a Fiat 500 for hauling large trailers and then blaming Fiat for selling them a car whose engine constantly overheats.
Additional Apple RDF bias:
Apple's customers are generally retarded.
Put your arm out and let me pour some fresh brewed coffee out of the pot made from the machine in my kitchen. Does that hurt?[/QUOTE]
Just to make sure, are you serious or just messing with people?
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