• Wendy's Owner Shoots And Kills Masked Gunman During Robbery
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[QUOTE=The Huffington Post] [IMG]http://i.huffpost.com/gen/451086/thumbs/s-FAST-FOOD-ROBBERY-large.jpg[/IMG] ]SAVANNAH, Ga. -- Police in Georgia say a fast-food worker grabbed his gun and shot and killed a man suspected of robbing the restaurant near Savannah. Savannah-Chatham Metropolitan Police say the suspect's body was found in the parking lot of the Wendy's restaurant around 12:50 a.m. Thursday in Wilmington Island. Detectives say two men with masks had surprised the employee while he was cleaning the store after closing and forced him at gunpoint into the office, where they took money. When the worker walked outside with his own weapon, police say one of the men pointed a weapon at him and he was shot and killed. Police say they're now trying to identify the second suspect, who ran from the restaurant.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/29/fast-food-robbery_n_1174797.html?ref=crime&ir=Crime[/url] While I guess the punishment doesn't really fit the crime, anyone who decides to commit a crime with a firearm, particularly a robbery, runs the risk of being shot and/or killed so it's hard to have too much sympathy for the guy. I still feel bad though, that guy probably had no idea his life was going to end that night and probably had no intention of actually shooting the owner.
Like a boss.
He threatened to kill someone, but that's all. Many robbers just do that so it's a given that they get money, they would scarcely ever actually kill someone. If he shot them, I wouldn't have sympathy
Good job.
I hope he doesn't gets sued or anything. Sometimes the law takes such a wrong turn...
More meat for the chili.
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;33967769] I still feel bad though, that guy probably had no idea his life was going to end that night and probably had no intention of actually shooting the owner.[/QUOTE] the consequences run endless when you point a gun at someone, getting shot at is definitely one of them.
I know it sucks when you're crazing some wendy's and they're closed at 3 in the morning so I can see where they came from.
[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;33967820]the consequences run endless when you point a gun at someone, getting shot at is definitely one of them.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's why you can't feel bad for him even though he probably had no intention of shooting him before the owner pulled out his own gun.
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;33967790]He threatened to kill someone, but that's all. Many robbers just do that so it's a given that they get money, they would scarcely ever actually kill someone. If he shot them, I wouldn't have sympathy[/QUOTE] If someone held me at gunpoint, then it would be hard not to take him seriously. If I had a means of defending myself (Such as a gun) then I wouldn't really sympathize with the assailant.
If someone holds me at gunpoint, they have the ability to end my life at any point, and are threatening to do so, at their discretion. At that point, I'll bear no thought to "Statistically, he's most likely not going to...". I don't care about his welfare at that point.
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;33967790]He threatened to kill someone, but that's all. Many robbers just do that so it's a given that they get money, they would scarcely ever actually kill someone. If he shot them, I wouldn't have sympathy[/QUOTE] Russia pointed nukes at us just to make us give them our land, they would scarcely ever actually fire them :v:
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;33967769] While I guess the punishment doesn't really fit the crime, anyone who decides to commit a crime with a firearm, particularly a robbery, runs the risk of being shot and/or killed so it's hard to have too much sympathy for the guy. I still feel bad though, that guy probably had no idea his life was going to end that night and probably had no intention of actually shooting the owner.[/QUOTE] God dammit that's exactly what I wanted to say :v: Spoken like a real man If you don't want to risk your life... don't be a dick, it's pretty simple logic. You rob a place and get shot? That's the risk you take.
[QUOTE=Nikota;33967811]More meat for the chili.[/QUOTE] Sweet, sweet Wendy's chili. Awwww yeah.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;33967944]If someone holds me at gunpoint, they have the ability to end my life at any point, and are threatening to do so, at their discretion. At that point, I'll bear no thought to "Statistically, he's most likely not going to...". I don't care about his welfare at that point.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but that's not what happened, they had the money and escaped, when the owner followed them outside and took a shot at one. Therefore someone could argue that he killed the guy not in self defence, so he could technically be tried for murder or wtv.
It doesn't matter if the robber didn't intend to kill him, it doesn't even matter if he had a realistic looking toy gun - threaten someone with a weapon, be prepared for the consequences
[QUOTE=Mechanical43;33968027]Yeah, but that's not what happened, they had the money and escaped, when the owner followed them outside and took a shot at one. Therefore someone could argue that he killed the guy not in self defence, so he could technically be tried for murder or wtv.[/QUOTE] The worker walked out with his gun, but one of them took aim at him so he shot first. He didn't shoot him in the back without a reason.
I'm kinda half and half on this. Yes they forced their way in with a weapon and robbed the restaurant. They left without harming anyone physically. The owner then got his gun and followed the suspects outside on their way to escape and shot them. The entire situation could have been avoided if the owner just called police and stayed in-side. I'm all for protecting yourself but these people where on the way out and no threat. However, the criminals knew the risk of doing what they did and can't get mad at anyone but themselves.
I guess it's the risk you run when you use a gun.
The worker going after the robber- that would be an issue in a lot of places, I don't know if Georgia is one of them. There's is a concept, opposite of those 'castle' laws, that says if you have a chance to avoid life threatening situations you need to take advantage of that. So the worker could have barricaded himself in the Wendy's, with his gun for protection, while waiting for cops to show up. Instead he went out after the robbers, forcing an unnecessary confrontation. Not a smart move.
Well I guess [I]he got served.[/I]
The owner is an idiot, not a hero of any sort. He put his life in unnecessary risk and somebody died as a result.
Robbery at gunpoint is by no means a good thing to be doing, it is quite the opposite of good. However, for the employee to follow him with a gun after the robber had harmed no one, and then to shoot him, something's not right there. At the end of the day the kill count is 1 for the employee and 0 for the fleeing robber.
Important to note here that the owner [i]followed the robbers outside after they were done.[/i] His life was no longer in danger, he clearly just thought the robbers deserved to be killed for taking his property. Fuck him.
[QUOTE=Sanius;33968472]The owner is an idiot, not a hero of any sort. He put his life in unnecessary risk and somebody died as a result.[/QUOTE] I don't know if I can go so far as the call the shooter an idiot; I imagine both were just as scared as each other at that point. Though I will say that I feel sorry somebody died, as always.
So... he committed assault with a deadly weapon, left the scene, and when the owner followed them with a gun, they did another ADW and got shot. I don't see where the sympathy comes from here, honestly. [QUOTE=notxmania;33968532]Important to note here that the owner [i]followed the robbers outside after they were done.[/i] His life was no longer in danger, he clearly just thought the robbers deserved to be killed for taking his property. Fuck him.[/QUOTE] Did you read? They aimed a gun at the owner [I]outside[/I], which is why they were shot. Justifiably, I might add. It doesn't matter where the incident occurred, there's no reason an ADW should be OK just because the victim had the wrong motives for being there.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33968530]Robbery at gunpoint is by no means a good thing to be doing, it is quite the opposite of good. However, for the employee to follow him with a gun after the robber had harmed no one, and then to shoot him, something's not right there. At the end of the day the kill count is 1 for the employee and 0 for the fleeing robber.[/QUOTE] He shot the robber because the guy pointed the gun at him again. For all we know he was going outside to make sure they were gone.
All for a Wendy's.
[QUOTE=Nikota;33967811]More meat for the chili.[/QUOTE] Tastes like justice. Also, let's all have a baconator in this man's honor.
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;33967790]He threatened to kill someone, but that's all. Many robbers just do that so it's a given that they get money, they would scarcely ever actually kill someone. If he shot them, I wouldn't have sympathy[/QUOTE] I'd rather take him seriously than risk finding out if he really means it. But seeing as the employee chased the guy down and shot him, still a bad move. He is the aggressor at that point.
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