Confirmed - Batman Shooter James Holmes was on hardcore pharmacheutical drugs (what about the video - Polidicks

Please don't blame me personally for posting this if you don't agree with it, I don't force you to read it. [url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-james-holmes-documents-20130405,0,6067279.story[/url] [quote] CENTENNIAL, Colo. — About a month before the Aurora movie theater rampage left 12 dead and at least 70 injured in July, James E. Holmes told a psychiatrist he was having homicidal thoughts and she concluded he could pose a danger to the public, according to documents released Thursday. University of Colorado-Denver psychiatrist Dr. Lynne Fenton told a campus police officer about her concerns June 12, the day after she met with Holmes for their only session. Her fears were revealed Thursday when the new judge presiding over the case unsealed a host of search warrants and arrest documents. Fenton also told Lynn Whitten, a campus police officer, that after she stopped seeing Holmes he "threatened and harassed her via email/text messages," the documents said. Whitten deactivated Holmes' ID so he could not get into university classrooms and laboratories, the documents say. That appeared to contradict what university officials have said: that Holmes was not banned from the university because of a threat but because his ID was deactivated as part of the normal student withdrawal process.[/quote] NOTE: The video does not expose the names of the "perscription anti-depressant drugs", the article does however, down a bit. The article it self does not include the source of the uncovered documents, find it your self as if I post it, it may get painted as "unreliable source". -------------------------------------------------------------------- (my comment below, opinion only, those who aren't interested don't have to read further) It is actually old news that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI), Fluoxetine (Prozac, Sarafem, Fonex, etc ) and Sertraline (Zoloft, Lustral, Serlain, Asentra, Tresleen) amonth other such substances, cause suicidal thoughts, among other things in nature of extreme behavior change, mania and psychological instability. The attack on video games is is a classic example of blaming something else, video games are against the anti-gun agenda, on top of being much more profitable, doesn't look like a coincidence. Thus the news in [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1259161[/url] , should be questionable by this reveal. Funny how these 2 stories broke at very close times. For those who are interested in reading more, as an added "proof" here is usatoday.com article from 2005: [url]http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-01-05-prozac-usat_x.htm[/url] Still think this guy was [b]merely[/b] playing starcraft 2 / COD and watching Twitch.tv that would made him do such things, people who made those stories sound plausible aren't experienced with gaming communities, most of the extreme cases are individuals in which many other factors were contributing to the results. By overexposing something and hiding something else you can change perception to oposite or anways you want, I please everyone would take a step back and see how easy is to just write something in a manner that comes out totally different. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor[/url]

the article states that [quote=article]They found prescription medication for sertraline, a generic version of Zoloft used to treat depression, panic disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder; and Clonazepam, usually prescribed to treat anxiety and panic attacks.[/quote]

Law enforcement has known about this for some time. The fact that he is a neuroscience major makes things worse since he knows how the brain works and can mask it to look "insane" (medically. Not legally) [quote]The once-promising neuroscience doctoral student at the university is charged with 166 counts of first-degree murder, attempted murder and weapons charges.[/quote] [quote]A search warrant for his apartment — which had been booby-trapped, presumably to kill anyone who entered — revealed a student's life that seemed at once mundane and bent on destruction.[/quote] [quote]Police have said records show Holmes went on a shopping spree that started in May, amassing semiautomatic weapons, large quantities of ammunition, military-style gear, chemicals that could be used for explosives and tear gas canisters.[/quote] The premeditation in this case makes it impossible for him to be declared insane by the courts. He will face the death penalty.

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Most importantly, I can see clearly in the big picture all of this, because of having first-hand experience, being stressed and depressed sometimes makes excess use of entertainment, whatever it is on hand and the usual practise, it is a form of escape, to bare it, to kill time, and it should not be blamed on video games, I played them the most when I was the most depressed, but I refused to take any medications, I know my stress would get to normal If I finish school. Even if it was mild, it was enough for me to get lazy, and things like this many many people have experienced and gone over and healed the normal way, the problem is when BigPharma tries to sell their products and comes into school programs and doctors claiming young people need to take these drugs to combat such teenager problems. I can tell you now that I'm back to normal, the biggest contributor to my issue was family-arguing, not games, not computer, not falling behind at school. (this is based on real events) To add a little bit of details, most of my childhood my parents would: scream wildly at the most pettiest little things like a piece of dust on the floor, making stuff up with little to no evidence, blowing up and blaming for no reason based on little evidence and often pure assumption based on "previous cases" which even those all previous cases were either a genuine mistake that any 5 year old does. Another thing was also, bringing up my old mistakes (petty stuff again) that I did over 10 years ago and having a reason to argue in the present time. It was many times that I felt the full force of the anger over something I never did, because I was trying to explain I didn't do It or to explain It how it happened, I got double-punished for "talking back". Pre-high school it did not get to me, but after 2nd class in mid-school basically meltdown happened, all that old and current stuff was biting into me, the current arguings just supercharged everything, destroying my morale to basically zero, I played a lot of games at those times, but I knew what is reality, even though I experienced anger, I can safely say that none of the games had any impact on my suicidal thoughts or any mass shooting thoughts, what excessive TV and Gaming does do, is it makes you lazy to do other things. It was some serious deep crap, by my mind was making it all seem good an happy to cope with the pressure and one way to make it good was just to kill time and play games in those 2-3 years I did 500 hours of C&C Generals Zh, 1500 hours of Call of Duty 2, another 500 hours of Red Alert 2 and 800 hours of Starcraft 2 (mostly in 2010), but I didn't "pull the plug" in terms of going out of the house, I had zero suicidal thoughts however. I deep down knew that what I'm doing is not right but I couldn't help it, I was too much into it, I liked and didn't like it at the same time. Lack of sleep also contributed heavily. Because Internet was my friend, I knew If I pull the plug and get basically the lowest you can be, on life support in some dirt hole, I must not surrender to government and potentially be abused by some cooky "health check" to get injected by BigPharma toxins. Lost more time and it definitely took longer to recover than it would in some other location in on this planet, but I had no choice to fund that, but I think now, that I've come out successfull I think it was worth it. Luckly, the bad and weird effect is only active inside and around the perimetter of my childhood place, if I gotten away from It for extended period of time (minimum 2 days, maximum 2 weeks, depended) I felt my mind clearing up and healing, stress levels droping dramatically. Not sure if it's stress, it's more like weirdness, I call it that now because I's not frustrating in terms of anger, it's more unconfortable, feels childish, I feelt I can't progress to a more mature level and it can go all way back under that effect on that specific location. I probably never wrote anything like this before nor said in such summary, so this is quite unique. Having a good childhood saved me probably, I had good friends and had great social interaction, and you can see how this can be destroyed, the point is, it wasn't violent video games. However I do think that if I had played these games too early it could have an effect, so I think anyone below 10 should not really. I can't prove it what would happen if somebody started playing Doom or COD at age of 3 ... but I can at least thank Nintendo for making such great games in 90' that made me into what im today, striving for quality and gameplay, not blood and gore. [QUOTE=zombays;40184845]Yeah, those drugs aren't hardcore at all[/QUOTE] If that is sarcasm I hope it is. Otherwise, The question is, would you take them to try it out ? You should not underestimate the term, better safe than sorry. I think any sensible common sense man should know that before saying anything.

That's an odd way to spell halo duty 4

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[QUOTE=zombays;40185295]I take Zoloft and Clonazepam, so I think I have a bit of experience[/QUOTE] Don't underestimate clonazepam. That's a generic for klonopin you know, as in one of the most powerful substances in the benzodiazepine class. I used to take k-pins and xanax both recreationally and by prescription. One thing I can tell you is this, yes they are hardcore drugs. This stuff can fuck you up man, I mean that. Benzo withdrawals are hell. I mean hell. I've been on zoloft for like three years I think. I wouldn't call it hardcore but with any psych med you run the risk of exacerbating any illness rather than improving it. Some people just don't respond well to these classes of drugs.

[QUOTE=Teal Moose;40185356]Don't underestimate clonazepam. That's a generic for klonopin you know, as in one of the most powerful substances in the benzodiazepine class. I used to take k-pins and xanax both recreationally and by prescription. One thing I can tell you is this, yes they are hardcore drugs. This stuff can fuck you up man, I mean that. Benzo withdrawals are hell. I mean hell. I've been on zoloft for like three years I think. I wouldn't call it hardcore but with any psych med you run the risk of exacerbating any illness rather than improving it. Some people just don't respond well to these classes of drugs.[/QUOTE] Good thing i haven't missed a day then Nevermind! I take Abilify, always thought they were the same. Damn, I'm stupid. I apologize

[QUOTE=zombays;40185295]I take Zoloft and Clonazepam, so I think I have a bit of experience[/QUOTE] You're not taking it enough >:D Hehe, that's probably fine if you just take it in the emergency and the lowest amounts, I don't think that guy adhered to any reasonable intake. You shouldn't adhere to the perscription if you think it's too much, take 50% less, and don't take it when problems go away. I cannot source this because I can't prove it, I can just tell you that those doctors which are colluding with bigpharma are perscribing these drugs for too long, like 6 months after symptoms went away or something like that. For example this: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/12/croatia-pharmaceuticals-bribery-idUSL5E8MCAXF20121112[/url]

[QUOTE=zombays;40185366]Good thing i haven't missed a day then[/QUOTE] I doubt you're building an addiction to it. You will know if you're becoming addicted to benzos. Other people around you will probably see it too. And try not to miss days on zoloft. Gives you brain zap.

[QUOTE=zombays;40184845]snip[/QUOTE] I've taken an SSRI before for about a week and all it does is make you feel like a zombie. No emotions, life seems to be numbed, constant nausea. They were by far the worst drug I've ever taken, legal or illegal. The worst side effect of all is that it kills your libido, I literally could not get a boner and I had not fapped until 2 weeks after I got off the them when I usually do it three times a day.

[QUOTE=Stewox;40185381]You're not taking it enough >:D Hehe, that's probably fine if you just take it in the emergency and the lowest amounts, I don't think that guy adhered to any reasonable intake. You shouldn't adhere to the perscription if you think it's too much, take 50% less, and don't take it when problems go away. I cannot source this because I can't prove it, I can just tell you that those doctors which are colluding with bigpharma are perscribing these drugs for too long, like 6 months after symptoms went away or something like that. For example this: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/12/croatia-pharmaceuticals-bribery-idUSL5E8MCAXF20121112[/url][/QUOTE] It's a little more complicated than that. I've been seeing a psych for about 3 years now. I'm diagnosed as bi-polar type 1 among some other things. These "problems" never really go away. You have to learn how to manage and cope and progress with the illness. I've been on zoloft for three years like I said. If I miss more than a few days, well, it's not good. [editline]6th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=ultra_bright;40185418]I've taken an SSRI before for about a week and all it does is make you feel like a zombie. No emotions, life seems to be numbed, constant nausea. They were by far the worst drug I've ever taken, legal or illegal. The worst side effect of all is that it kills your libido, I literally could not get a boner and I had not fapped until 2 weeks after I got off the them.[/QUOTE] Hahaha, yeah this man has got it nailed down. I started out at 25mg and that wasn't bad. When I jumped to 50 though, I didn't pop a boner for a month, swear to god. The first three weeks of zoloft I slept a lot. I was in a totally different world for that first month. After so long though, I don't even notice the side effects anymore.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;40185418]I've taken an SSRI before for about a week and all it does is make you feel like a zombie. No emotions, life seems to be numbed, constant nausea. They were by far the worst drug I've ever taken, legal or illegal. The worst side effect of all is that it kills your libido, I literally could not get a boner and I had not fapped until 2 weeks after I got off the them when I usually do it three times a day.[/QUOTE] SSRIs take [I]months[/I] to work properly. They do wonders for people who need them (there are in fact people who have been depressed and suicidal since early childhood). If they made you feel that bad, you should have asked to try another. Anti psychotics make you feel like a zombie though. It amazes me that this guy wasn't put on any while plenty of idiot psychs prescribe them as second line treatment for [I]anxiety[/I] (they should be a last resort, after SSRIs, beta blockers, and benzos)

[QUOTE=SteeleCratos;40184703]the article states that[/QUOTE] Hardcore? Sertraline is practically as tame as it gets

[QUOTE=Aman VII;40186534]Hardcore? Sertraline is practically as tame as it gets[/QUOTE] Compared to some other SSRIs, maybe yeah. Compared to tricyclic and earlier ADs, definitely yes. I'm not sure if the long term effects of Zoloft have been studied and documented but I would like to know. I've been on it since I was like 14... They're certainly something you should only take if you need the relief.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;40185418]I've taken an SSRI before for about a week and all it does is make you feel like a zombie. No emotions, life seems to be numbed, constant nausea. They were by far the worst drug I've ever taken, legal or illegal. The worst side effect of all is that it kills your libido, I literally could not get a boner and I had not fapped until 2 weeks after I got off the them when I usually do it three times a day.[/QUOTE] The first 4-6 weeks of an SSRI have major side effects, buit they tend to get better/wear off after that.

i don't see it saying anywhere that he was actually prescribed those drugs, only that they were found at his home. it's more than possible to obtain prescription medication without an actual prescription, and either way, trying to push the blame onto prescription medication that tonnes of people take without issue is just stupid

[QUOTE=areolop;40184842]The fact that he is a neuroscience major makes things worse since he knows how the brain works and can mask it to look "insane" (medically. Not legally)[/QUOTE] umm no i dont think so dude neuroscience majors arent masters of disguise

[QUOTE=thisispain;40187286]umm no i dont think so dude neuroscience majors arent masters of disguise[/QUOTE] how would you know they are probably disguising their inability to disguise themselves as well

[QUOTE=Exploits;40187422]how would you know they are probably disguising their inability to disguise themselves as well[/QUOTE] Buggrit millennium hand and shrimp.

[QUOTE=thisispain;40187286]umm no i dont think so dude neuroscience majors arent masters of disguise[/QUOTE] I didnt say they were. I said he is. What he studied, what books he read. Its easy for him to mask.

Hardcore pharmaceutical drugs? They hand out SSRIs/benzos out like fucking candy in the US. Along with ADHD stimulants.

[QUOTE=areolop;40187712]I didnt say they were. I said he is. What he studied, what books he read. Its easy for him to mask.[/QUOTE] i dont know what you think neuroscience is about, but you dont learn how to mask yourself as being insane. neuroscience is the study of the body's nervous system and the interactions between neurons within. unless he can like manipulate his neurons in some external way his neuroscience major isnt very relevant

[QUOTE=Jawalt;40187168]The first 4-6 weeks of an SSRI have major side effects, buit they tend to get better/wear off after that.[/QUOTE] They generally don't Most people get stiff joints or a headache for a while

I don't have SSRI side-effects anymore so long as I keep up on the prescription, personally. I had a month of sourceless anxiety and the feeling of bugs crawling around inside my head, but it faded.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;40187252]i don't see it saying anywhere that he was actually prescribed those drugs, only that they were found at his home. it's more than possible to obtain prescription medication without an actual prescription, and either way, trying to push the blame onto prescription medication that tonnes of people take without issue is just stupid[/QUOTE] I doubt he got zoloft illegally. It has no recreational value and no market. People abuse benzos, so it's possible that he could get k-pins illegally but xanax is by far the most common and acquirable benzo drug. I've never seen clonazepam on the street, only had it by script.

Semi-on-topic:I take Paxil, an SSRI, sometimes I think of suicide, although very rarely, then I shrug it off. It was prescribed to me in late in elementary school to keep anxiety at bay, which it does so wonderfully. I still take it now in 11th grade.

[QUOTE=An Axolotl;40188627]Semi-on-topic:I take Paxil, an SSRI, sometimes I think of suicide, although very rarely, then I shrug it off. It was prescribed to me in late in elementary school to keep anxiety at bay, which it does so wonderfully. I still take it now in 11th grade.[/QUOTE] Yeah I get those thoughts too. I never wanted to get on mood stabilizers because that is hardcore shit. Right in line with anti-psychotics. Sometimes my mania can get really out of control though, but usually only when I'm doing something I shouldn't be doing. What worries me is that in my manic moods I take some fucking insane risks and I don't want to end up dead... Zoloft just doesn't help me like it did 2 years ago.

[quote]They found prescription medication for sertraline, a generic version of Zoloft used to treat depression, panic disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder; and Clonazepam, usually prescribed to treat anxiety and panic attacks.[/quote] Seriously, they're concerned about [i]those?[/i] Those are the exact same two medications I take. I wouldn't exactly call them "hardcore." That said, the Clonazepam is only "as needed," it's the sertraline I'm on two pills a day for.